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By aluecard at 2008-03-27

By aluecard at 2008-04-24

Gin is a dangerous and highly ranked member in the "Black Organization". He is the one that attacked and force-fed  Shinichi Kudo the  with APTX-4869, the drug that turned kudo  into Conan Edogawa. Wearing all black and long yellow/blonde hair, Gin is a tall person, who always covers his eyes with his black hat. He is always looking for Shiho Miyano (also known as Ai Haibara), and aside from considering her a traitor to the Black Organization, he also seems to have some weird obsession with her i wunder y.

He is usually seen being followed around by his lower ranked comrade/sidekick, Vodka, who doesn't really add much to the missions other than being there (though, he works alone in the Dark Contact Case). Vodka's low rank status is noted in how he calls Gin "Aniki" (or brother), which is what a low-ranked gang member calls a high-ranked gang member. Despite being menacing and coldblooded, Gin appears to respect certain members of his team; Vodka, Vermouth (when she persuades him to leave Conan and Kogoro alone), and Kir                                                                                                  (when he decides not to kill anyone at the hospital after she asks him        not to).

Since Gin is normally leading the Black Organization's operations he probably has a high position in the Black Organization. Very sharp-minded, perceptive and efficient, he can smell out any trap and deception his partner Vodka would easily fall for. He takes great pleasure in "rooting out" traitors to the organization; with Shiho ("Sherry") it is possibly a special case, because she is the one prey which has (with Conan's help) repeatedly eluded him.

There is a rivalry between Gin and Shuichi. Gin considers Shuichi dangerous, and Shuichi refers to him as his old enemy in episode 425                      (before shooting him). It is revealed in File 599 that this rivalry stems from the death of Akemi Miyano (Ai Haibara's older sister), who had a relationship with Akai. There also appears to be something personal between Gin and Sherry (Ai Haibara) when they confront each other in the "Gin & Sherry" case.


Gin also proved to be able to withstand Conan's sleeping needles to some degree (as proven in episode 178); probably due to some sort of immunization against drugs to avoid capture (in the Ai Kidnap Case, Vermouth was also able to withstand her own knockout gas to a degree, even though she was inside a closed car. However it is more likely a result of both of them shooting themselves to keep themselves awake. Gin shot himself in the arm, while Vermouth shot herself in the leg in the car. Though it's possible that Vermouth fell asleep (because of the gas), only to wake up before Conan. That's why while releasing the sleeping gas she said to Conan that it's a "bet" to see who wakes up first.

Gin is left-handed, and often drives a Porsche 356A. Cold-blooded and callous, Gin doesn't bother to remember any strangers he kills.[3]

    * Gin's design drastically changes throughout the series. At the start, his hair is actually light brown, and the line structure is not as detailed. In addition, part of his hair comes down his face across his nose. As the series progresses Gin's hair is blonde, and the line structure is strongly detailed. In addition, there is no hair that comes down across his face anymore.
His weapon of choice is the Beretta M1934. He has been known to use other weapons, and uses poison quite often.

Only thing that you missed is - Gin have amazingly high health lvl. If you look closely you may noticed that Akai shot him in chest 2 times, but not only it caused only minor bleeding form mouth - he was fine a few moments later. My guess is - he's a Test Subject as well.

Aluecard wrote: There also appears to be something personal between Gin and Sherry (Ai Haibara) when they confront each other in the "Gin & Sherry" case.

"Gin and Sherry" case . Could you tell me where I can find it? Is it only in manga?

kentasaiba wrote: I say Gin is a NOC and works for the CIA 

Though that would be an INSANE plot twist. I doubt it, he's too evil. He's so evil that Kudo upon seeing him noted his evilness. I'm sorry, but I don't think you can fake that. And one who is that evil couldn't be in the CIA. BUT what I could see is Vermouth being turned. I think she may end up either helping specifically Kudo, or maybe even the FBI as a means to lighten her sentence. I think that would be interesting to see, especially with Jodie wanting her dead and all...

Rio Nagava wrote: Only thing that you missed is - Gin have amazingly high health lvl. If you look closely you may noticed that Akai shot him in chest 2 times, but not only it caused only minor bleeding form mouth - he was fine a few moments later. My guess is - he's a Test Subject as well.

He wore a bullet-proof vest.
I call that smart 8)

kagami wrote:

Rio Nagava wrote: Only thing that you missed is - Gin have amazingly high health lvl. If you look closely you may noticed that Akai shot him in chest 2 times, but not only it caused only minor bleeding form mouth - he was fine a few moments later. My guess is - he's a Test Subject as well.

He wore a bullet-proof vest.
I call that smart 8)

I thought the vest was obvious... NO ONE can survive two blasts like that. The bleeding from the mouth was likely from internal damage, like broken ribs.

So yes... He is smart, there is no doubt.

Well i was dramatising... I guess XD
But still... His bleeding was very short. As if it was cut somehow... I still think that he was or Is test subject.
If Vermouth is... Why not Gin too.

Oh and i got confused actually... On the picture there was odd spot. Right near his shoulder.. I think it's just some drawing mistake...

this hav nothi nto do wit wat we r discussin nw, but after lookin at the first pic, i got to say Gin looks more malevolent in the manga than the anime - the anime makes him look like a sinister clown

You should've compare him with his JDrama version.
There Gin was awfully badass.

Gin is the most deadliest and intelligent member of B.O for me.. and i agree to have his name as Gin because gin is a very strong and deadly alcoholic liquior... 

yes he really is very intelligent and an important member of the BO.

kirhidemi wrote: Gin is the most deadliest and intelligent member of B.O for me.. and i agree to have his name as Gin because gin is a very strong and deadly alcoholic liquior...  

It's carcinogenic? Never heard of a drink that's deadly.. Unless you drink something like muriatic acid of course~

kentasaiba wrote: I say Gin is a NOC and works for the CIA 

lol I hope that doesn't happen at all because he is so perfect as the bad guy! (and if all the smart people are on the good side, it's not fun anymore )

Rio Nagava wrote: Only thing that you missed is - Gin have amazingly high health lvl. If you look closely you may noticed that Akai shot him in chest 2 times, but not only it caused only minor bleeding form mouth - he was fine a few moments later. My guess is - he's a Test Subject as well.

I think Akai said he was wearing a bullet proof vest at the time... only the force of the bullet that caused him some damage ^_^

Oh, and Gin is left handed, but he holds the gun with his right hand, so either he trained to use the gun with his right hand, or it's a handicap he gave for his opponent, (not likely, but he might be think, "i can defeat you punks without using my dominant hand") XDD

Khinkhun wrote: Oh, and Gin is left handed, but he holds the gun with his right hand, so either he trained to use the gun with his right hand, or it's a handicap he gave for his opponent, (not likely, but he might be think, "i can defeat you punks without using my dominant hand") XDD

When Gin was scoping Akai from the top of the building outside of Mouri's place, he has his left finger on the trigger and is using his right hand to stabilize -- same with Akai. Chianti and Korn are right handed and they have their right fingers on the trigger and are using their left hands to stabilize. Therefore, Gin and Akai are using "left handed style" which means he is not handicapping. (Unless everyone is handicapping which is ridiculous or the art was done backwards)
The only time Gin has been portrayed as right handed is in the first chapter (which is debatable). In the that chapter, he holds the pipe he bonks Shinichi with and the APTX pill in his right hand. By the time you get to chapter 16 which is the next time Gin shows up, he shoots a handgun left handed.