Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 936–938

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Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 936–938

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Apparently, the preview of the next file came out on Wednesday: https://www.facebook.com/50825894922606 ... =3&theater

Guess that's what Gosho meant with that AC hint about K-ON.

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If I've screwed up by making this thread, myself, I apologize—it's just that I've never done this, before.
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Spoiler:
Apparently, the preview of the next file came out on Wednesday: https://www.facebook.com/50825894922606 ... =3&theater

Guess that's what Gosho meant with that AC hint about K-ON.
Thats just the official Shonen Sunday blurb
those go up a week before the chapter every week
http://websunday.net/jigou/


However, Conan is usually further down the page and doesn't have any text with it
so this is a bit unusual. The top 5-6 series' on the list get little intros to their next
chapter. Conan has been at the bottom of the page for nearly a year or so
(when not on hiatus), unless he was on the cover of the magazine. Its kind of surprising
to see him close to the top.
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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:Thats just the official Shonen Sunday blurb
those go up a week before the chapter every week
http://websunday.net/jigou/

However, Conan is usually further down the page and doesn't have any text with it
so this is a bit unusual. The top 5-6 series' on the list get little intros to their next
chapter. Conan has been at the bottom of the page for nearly a year or so
(when not on hiatus), unless he was on the cover of the magazine. Its kind of surprising
to see him close to the top.
So it's alright that I started the thread? (Again, haven't done this before, so...)
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
So it's alright that I started the thread? (Again, haven't done this before, so...)
It should be, If I remember correctly, I've started one in the past. It just had to have
that massive image about spoilers in it like you have above and its fine.

Edit: (apparently I started the 925-927 thread)
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Just read some spoilers from The Red Thread Facebook page.
Spoiler:
Rei can play guitar well
I think I can't sleep this night <3
Spoiler:
Sera and Rei meet. Rei pretends to meet her for the 1st time.

Sera can play guitar a bit too and she said she was taught by her brother's friend who she's forgotten
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A girls-band ? What is this ? 1997 ? :-X
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Wakarimashita wrote:A girls-band ? What is this ? 1997 ? :-X
Well... ;D
Spoiler:
Anyway, here's the actual post from the Red Thread (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 8949226063):

“Girl Band” SPOILERS
Thanks to Conan#1: Amuro is great at playing guitar and played once at Poirot. Sera and Amuro met face to face, Sera didn't recognize him, Amuro lied to say it's their meeting for the first time. Sera knows to play guitar a little bit, says it's her brother's friend teaches her but she forgot who is it.
More info thanks to bash7353: Characters: Conan, Ran, Sonoko, Masumi, two male Poriot customers, Azusa, Bourbon/Amuro, receptionist of the recording studio, four band members: Fugine Somega (g), Fuekawa Tagako (ba,vo), Kogure Rumi (key), and leader Yamaji Hagie (dr, first victim)
Additional decipherment on our part. As far as we can tell, this would be the girl band line-up: Ran playing the keyboard, Sonoko being the drummer and Sera handling the guitar
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Great,another mystery to solve...who is the friend that plays guitar and taught Sera to play???
Anyway I admit Amuro playing guitar is cool...I like that he likes to do something more artistic than solving cases of doing sports^^
I'm still wondering if he grew up in the BO or not,but apparently Gosho doesn't want to give us important answers concerning his past...
Wakarimashita wrote:A girls-band ? What is this ? 1997 ? :-X
LOL Waka XDXD Girls band still exist nowadays...
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AICHAN wrote: LOL Waka XDXD Girls band still exist nowadays...
The best example (I think) would be La PomPon.
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AICHAN wrote:
Spoiler:
Great, another mystery to solve...

I'm still wondering if he grew up in the BO or not,but apparently Gosho doesn't want to give us important answers concerning his past...
Spoiler:
You know it! >:D

Gosho doesn't want to give us important answers on anything, you mean. ::)

Rei/Tooru might know Masumi because he was Shukichi's friend—him being Shuichi's friend... well... you'd think that them knowing each other before they met each other in the Organization would have been a good step in preventing what evidently happened with Scotch.
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Hmm... I hope this isn't going to lead Rei being the friend who taught Sera... Does that specify which brother's friend it was?
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Is Conan not telling Amuro about Rum and request him to investigate.
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*wide thought* May that friend be Scotch? XD
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Here is the entirety of the Japanese text spoilers
For some reason, the people on the Festy.jp page didn't copy all of it over
this is what was on 2ch (still all in Japanese)
Spoiler:
FILE936 ガールズバンド

昨夜のTV映画に出ていたJKバンドに感化され、園子がバンドを始めると言いだす
自分に似ていたからという理由で園子はドラム担当、同様に蘭がベース…
コナン「蘭姉ちゃんはピアノの方が得意だよね?」
ということで真純がベースを担当し蘭はキーボード
町の演芸大会に出て優勝しよう!と園子は息巻くが、ギター誰やるの?
と、困ったところに梓がいたので名前つながりで勧誘
当人は未経験者だしJKでもないし…と困り顔
制服着ちゃえばわかりゃしないしギターなんてちょちょっと練習すれば簡単だよ!
と大口叩いてると、居合わせた男性客はバンドマンだった
ギター貸すぞ?簡単なんだろ?やってみろよwと煽られ園子涙目
すると安室がギターを取り上げ、軽く一曲演奏して男性客を黙らせる
これ以上目立つわけにはいかないので、安室は勧誘を断るが
練習を見るくらいならできると一同を連れて貸しスタジオへ
真純「なあアンタ… ボクとどこかで… 会った事ないか?」
安室「今日が初めてだと… 思いますけど…」

貸しスタジオは満室だったので空き待ちの1時間ほどを待合所で過ごす
園子のドラム歴は…「ドラムの達人(ゲーム)」のみ
真純はドレミが弾ける程度、兄の友人に教わったというが
友人が男だと言った覚えはないぞ…安室…?

居合わせた別の女性バンドが休憩中
全員どこかちぐはぐで、染花がイライラを他3人にぶつけまくる
軽く寝てくる、と萩江が一人スタジオに戻る
先に亡くした仲間の追悼ライブを前に、染花は絶対成功させるという思いが先走る
染花の服のボタンを直すからと唯子が上着を預かるが
染花はギターの弦を張り替えるからと萩江を起こす役は譲らない
留海も曲を一部手直ししたいようだが、萩江を起こしてしまうのでできない

一方園子たちは
沖野ヨーコの曲をカバーするとして、誰をボーカルにするかで困っていた
園子はdrとvoを一緒にはできないというし真純もパスするし
いっそ新一呼ぶ?と言われたものの、蘭は新一が音痴だと知ってるし
するとスタジオの奥から悲鳴が聞こえる
コナン・真純・安室が急いで駆けつけると萩江が死んでいた 首に絞殺痕
監視カメラの映像を見ると、視界の半分ほどを自撮り棒つき携帯で遮られてる
これでは誰がなにやっててもほぼわからない

■死角を利用された殺人……?
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Here's a translation of the 2ch spoilers
Spoiler:
Sonoko says she wants to start a girls' band, inspired by a movie she saw last night on the TV.
Since she says it ressembles her, Sonoko's in charge of the drums and Ran's put in charge of the bass.
Conan: "Ran - neechan's skilled at playing the piano, no?"
And so Masumi takes up the bass and Ran is placed in charge of the keyboard.
Sonoko yells that they take part in the city's entertainment contest and win it but... who'll be in charge of the guitar?
To try to solve that, they invite Azusa to take part because of her name tie.
Azusa argues back that she's got no experience in that and she's not a "girl" anymore.
Then a male customer who happened to be there and was a bandman suddenly exclaims:
"If ya put on a uniform and train to play the guitar then it'll be a piece of a cake!"
"I'll lend ya a guitar: piece of a cake, no? Try it out!"... Sonoko, who was fueled, is about to cry, even. (I think she finds the idea horrible.)
Amuro suddenly picks the guitar and lightly plays a song: the male customer shuts up. (Surprised at Amuro's level of skill, that is.)
Amuro then refuses the invitation from the girls saying that he doesn't want to stand out any more but
he says he will stick along to see their reharsals: and so the group head to a rental studio.
Masumi: "Hey, ya... Haven't you and I met... somewhere before?"
Amuro: "I think that... today's the first time we've met yet..."

The rental studio's full so the group wait for a room to be freed in the waiting area: about an hour passes.
Turns out that Sonoko's only experience with drums is a game named "Drum Master".
Masumi can at least play the Do-Re-Mi as she was taught by a friend of her brother yet
she doesn't remember having said that it was a man... Amuro...? (Maybe she's asking Amuro why he said that the friend was a man?)

Another girl band who was there is taking a break.
It is an all somewhere incronigous, and Someka (one of the members) lets out her annoyance in the other 3 members.
Hagie, another member, says she wants to have a light nap and so goes back to the studio.
They're about to have a memorial live in memory of a dead member, and Somehana is impertinent in that they must make it be a successs no matter what.
Yuiko (yet another member) keeps Someka's jacket because she wants to fix one of Someka's clothes' buttons yet
Someka has to re-do her guitar's strings so she stands her ground that she (Yuiko) must wake up Hagie.
Rumi (the 4th member) looks like she wants to rework a part of the song so she can't go wake up Hagie.

(In short: the member girls are named Someka, Hagie, Yuiko and Rumi. And there was a 5th member who's already dead).

Sonoko & co., in the meanwhile, want to use a Okino Yoko CD song as cover song yet they don't know who'll do the vocals.
Sonoko herself argues that she can't do the drums and the vocals at the same time and Masumi passes as well.
"Should we rather ring up Shinichi?", one (or both, not specified) of them suggest. But then Ran remembers that Shinichi's tone deaf.
A scream rings out from somewhere in the studio all of a sudden.
Conan, Amuro and Masumi rush over there but find Hagie dead with strangulation marks.
They check the security camera footage but about half of the screen is blocked by a phone with a selfie stick attached to it.
In these conditions they can't tell who did what.

A murder making use of a blind spot...?
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