Possible conflicts inside the Black Organization
- Mario2000
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Possible conflicts inside the Black Organization
Just thinking: do you think there will ever be any serious conflict/inside conspiracy/break-up in the organization? For example, if Gin tried to kill the boss and take over or something like that. I wonder whether all the members without exception really fear the boss or are completely loyal to him/her. For example, Gin doesn't seem a character easy to intimidate or somebody who could be attached/loyal to another person than himself. I mean, he seems like somebody who does what he has to do because it suits him, not because he is forced.
Or Vermouth could maybe use the fact she is the boss' "favorite" for her own means?
Another example: that "Irish" character from the movie, even though not canon, wanted to dispose of Gin to take revenge for Pisco's death.
Characters like Vodka, Chianti and Korn seem just like muscle without personal initiatives to me, but what if some of the "cleverer" members became ambitious and tried to challenge other members or even the boss? What do you think about the idea and how actually possible it is?
Or Vermouth could maybe use the fact she is the boss' "favorite" for her own means?
Another example: that "Irish" character from the movie, even though not canon, wanted to dispose of Gin to take revenge for Pisco's death.
Characters like Vodka, Chianti and Korn seem just like muscle without personal initiatives to me, but what if some of the "cleverer" members became ambitious and tried to challenge other members or even the boss? What do you think about the idea and how actually possible it is?
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Re: Possible conflicts inside the Black Organization
If I remember correctly, Gosho recently suggested that something like that is happening in the Organization right now.
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Vermouth, Amuro, Kir...
- rocketpropelledbear
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With so much animosity going on between members of the organisation as well as the frequency of undercover agents, it is simply a miracle that the organisation has not collapsed from within. I really hope Aoyama give a reasonable explanation on how the Boss keep members loyal to him by the time Detective Conan ends.
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What i think is that it wouldn't be something of a big issue .
Now see all of Bo's agents are i would say highly skilled assassins so they wouldn't just risk themselves exposing something crucial.......
And if something really happens then it would be a good chance for Conan to gather much information .
And Guys i wanted to ask something ....... there are many times that Conan has met Bo's members face to face so why doesn't he put on them some kind of transmitter(which the mysterious girl of sera caught)? It would be a brilliant idea , wouldn't it ?
Now see all of Bo's agents are i would say highly skilled assassins so they wouldn't just risk themselves exposing something crucial.......
And if something really happens then it would be a good chance for Conan to gather much information .
And Guys i wanted to ask something ....... there are many times that Conan has met Bo's members face to face so why doesn't he put on them some kind of transmitter(which the mysterious girl of sera caught)? It would be a brilliant idea , wouldn't it ?
- Mario2000
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Another idea: it would be interesting if the boss got killed as a result of a conspiracy inside the organization and Conan investigated the murder. Although in this case there would be no epic confrontation between Conan and the boss.
- geetp007
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@mario2000
But Dont forget gin . If the boss is dead Gin is the one who will take his role of giving a hell of a fight .
And there is also rum
9 (2nd in charge) coming up
But Dont forget gin . If the boss is dead Gin is the one who will take his role of giving a hell of a fight .
And there is also rum
9 (2nd in charge) coming up
- Mario2000
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That's the point. If Gin and Rum killed the boss and then split the organization in 2 rival factions, something like that.geetp007 wrote:@mario2000
But Dont forget gin . If the boss is dead Gin is the one who will take his role of giving a hell of a fight .
And there is also rum
9 (2nd in charge) coming up
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Only time will tell
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Re: Possible conflicts inside the Black Organization
geetp007 wrote:What i think is that it wouldn't be something of a big issue .
Now see all of Bo's agents are i would say highly skilled assassins so they wouldn't just risk themselves exposing something crucial.......
And if something really happens then it would be a good chance for Conan to gather much information .
And Guys i wanted to ask something ....... there are many times that Conan has met Bo's members face to face so why doesn't he put on them some kind of transmitter(which the mysterious girl of sera caught)? It would be a brilliant idea , wouldn't it ?
he did put a transmitter in black impact case which endangered kogoro at that time
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- geetp007
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.he did put a transmitter in black impact case which endangered kogoro at that time
But it was mistakenly put at the shoes of Rena. What im trying to say is to put the transmitter on Gin or Vodka or someone in a cornered place like the fold of the hat of Gin or Vodka
Since it was on Rena's Shoes it was easily noticed
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Re: Possible conflicts inside the Black Organization
@geetp007: Conan can't risk coming too close to them to begin with, he wouldn't risk it. And Gin knows about those transmitters so it's safe to assume that he'd be looking for them at every time to make sure they weren't being followed.
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At the risk of going off-topic, I want to point out this issue in the plot.
Gin drives flashy car(Porsche 356a), it is rare and especially so in Japan. Wouldn't it be incredibly easy to track him down through his car? Same thing goes for other members like Chianti and Korn who drive a second gen Dodge viper, Viper isn't the kind of car you expect to find outside the United States
Gin drives flashy car(Porsche 356a), it is rare and especially so in Japan. Wouldn't it be incredibly easy to track him down through his car? Same thing goes for other members like Chianti and Korn who drive a second gen Dodge viper, Viper isn't the kind of car you expect to find outside the United States
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- geetp007
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I too at the risk of going off-track want to say this:-
When Vermouth or Any other member refers to Anokata ..... does it can mean that they are referring to Rum....since they might not know about someone superior then Rum.
Just think of it ... When Gin asks Anokata something (like he did to kill kogoro) he must've asked Rum not The Boss... right?
If any mistake then please tell.
When Vermouth or Any other member refers to Anokata ..... does it can mean that they are referring to Rum....since they might not know about someone superior then Rum.
Just think of it ... When Gin asks Anokata something (like he did to kill kogoro) he must've asked Rum not The Boss... right?
If any mistake then please tell.
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Re: Possible conflicts inside the Black Organization
Nah, Anokata is simply a gender-neutral term so they won't say whether the boss is female or male, and so they won't have to say "Boss" all the time.
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