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http://www.dctp.ws/V64-Reader/V64-3Read/V64-3/File666_016.png

this proves Okiya isnt Bourbon if you think Ai really kno who Okiya is, since Ai knows nothing about Bourbon.

tho from this i also hav a feeling he might be the boss - tbh he wud make a gd BO boss too lol
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In my opinion, conan knows exactly who okiya is (that's why he has this smile) and i think it is possible that okiya knows about conan and ai's situation (but not sure about that).
However doesn't ai refer to the feeling she had when she met for the first time okiya?
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Actually, I remember reading that in the orginal Ai's words sounded more like "And as I thought, that person...", (suggesting she's suspecting him of being a BO member), which makes much more sense.
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Why do you insist on making new topics for things are aren't exactly beyond our notice?
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Conan324 wrote: H...Haibara , i'm tired of your non-sense, this is a forum, we are supposed to discuss things.
You should learn the difference between 'non-sense', flaming and discussion via assumption. Discussing through rhetorical questions is still discussion. The fact of the matter is, there is very clearly a thread here about Okiya already. And what you keep doing leads me to assume that you're just an attention whore.

All that aside, I think it's pretty well established that, since he has been introduced in such a way, he will play a central role in coming story arcs. I also firmly believe that he is indeed the new BO member Bourbon.

Has anyone else seen the intros for Episodes, I think around 500, where there is a picture of Okiya, a bourbon bottle and "Bourbon" written across the background?
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H...Haibara wrote: Has anyone else seen the intros for Episodes, I think around 500, where there is a picture of Okiya, a bourbon bottle and "Bourbon" written across the background?
Do you mean the "bourbon whiskey" that akai loves?
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Conan324 wrote: /\/\ i don't think she meant that, she meant the bottle from the deduction showdown case.
yeah i know there are 2 different bottles, but the drink is still the same. btw the bottle that appears in akai robbery case was on the cover of file 622, the case where okiya was introduced.
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Sandam wrote: coincidence right?  ::)
yep :P
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No, I mean this picture.

http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=okiya.jpg

After seeing this my thoughts are final. Okiya is bourbon. It's also a coincidence that it was shown right after the B.O. frame (which, I might add, contained Gin, Vodka and Vermouth). This might mean he's someone big, no?
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H...Haibara wrote: No, I mean this picture.

http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=okiya.jpg

After seeing this my thoughts are final. Okiya is bourbon. It's also a coincidence that it was shown right after the B.O. frame (which, I might add, contained Gin, Vodka and Vermouth). This might mean he's someone big, no?
Just wondering where the THEORY on Bo members drink their namesakes. Beside the bouron picture. is there any more proof? I have a feeling that picture is a MAJOR red herring.

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sstimson wrote:
H...Haibara wrote: No, I mean this picture.

http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=okiya.jpg

After seeing this my thoughts are final. Okiya is bourbon. It's also a coincidence that it was shown right after the B.O. frame (which, I might add, contained Gin, Vodka and Vermouth). This might mean he's someone big, no?
Just wondering where the THEORY on Bo members drink their namesakes. Beside the bouron picture. is there any more proof? I have a feeling that picture is a MAJOR red herring.

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How is it a red herring? The topic in discussion is Okiya, and that's is a picture of Okiya with Bourbon written across the background.

Edit: Oh wait, I see which red herring you mean. And nah, I don't think DC is that complicated.

Who needs proof that BO members drink their designated call signs? Maybe it's just AO's way of giving us clues. How else is he going to do it? Make him wear a shirt that says "I am Bourbon"?
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heh.. :) if gosho would be that simple no one would watch DC. remember how gosho gave hints what jodie is vermouth? its just the same :) hes trying to confuse us ;)
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A few arcs back, there was also major juxtapositioning with Jodie and Vermouth that Gosho did that screwed around with us... It could be the same case here. I would make no assumptions when it comes to Gosho.
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I still think it's not that complicated. It's not that simple either, but sometimes people are try-hard wannabe detectives and all that.
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Still wondering about Bo member drinking their name sakes. Yes I know we see Gin bottles and think of Gin. What I am asking for is examples.The only one I can think of is Vermonth joke of mixing Gin and Vermonth. Where do we see and know that they are drinking their name sakes. Examples please.

Also in case some here missed what I meant by red herring. It is a false clue, sometimes intentionally placed to mislead the Detective.
Beware of such clues! The real one are normally much better hid and not clear. After all a mystery writer invites the reader to play Detective but tried to do in such a way that while the reader see all the clues the writer puts out, the writer try to write it such as the reader being lead to the wrong way and the writer saves the reader by showing at the end the real clues and Bad guy.

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