Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-884

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Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-884

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This time is the flashback case about Shinichi and Ran.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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So the flashback happened after the NY-Case?
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Good work MR detective. You mention Eri shortly before you shrunk, but forget her completely a few month after.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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User 4869 wrote:
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Good work MR detective. You mention Eri shortly before you shrunk, but forget her completely a few month after.
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And how about Ran's cell phone, her cell phone is supposed to be Shinichi gives her as a present in Episode 173.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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User 4869 wrote:
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Good work MR detective. You mention Eri shortly before you shrunk, but forget her completely a few month after.
XDXD so true!
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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hahaha true! i smell PLOTHOLES!!!
can anyone translate anything that's going on? I'm really interested in this case and if it has anything to do with Sera at all in the future... Also, does anyone know why DCTP hasn't translated the latest like, five files?

Thanks!!!
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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@ Aya: ^^ Did you check here http://www.dctp.ws/? some files have been released here but not in the main board in the forum

Also, be patient I think there are some new translators too, but still it is a big job, which they do as fans. They have families, jobs and may be studies ;)
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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Aya Murakami wrote:
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hahaha true! i smell PLOTHOLES!!!
can anyone translate anything that's going on? I'm really interested in this case and if it has anything to do with Sera at all in the future... Also, does anyone know why DCTP hasn't translated the latest like, five files?

Thanks!!!
Indeed, at least about the first point. Seriously, though,
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it is as though many characters have selective memories, so the plot goes a certain way. (As much as I like Gosho's writing, this is a major flaw he has issues with. It makes the characters look dumb.)
As for the matter of this case's
Spoiler:
flashback, I find it fascinating how Ran is shown as remembering it. Her reminiscing goes from Conan being there to Shinichi being there in the memory.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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PhantomWriter wrote:
Aya Murakami wrote:
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hahaha true! i smell PLOTHOLES!!!
can anyone translate anything that's going on? I'm really interested in this case and if it has anything to do with Sera at all in the future... Also, does anyone know why DCTP hasn't translated the latest like, five files?

Thanks!!!
Indeed, at least about the first point. Seriously, though,
Spoiler:
it is as though many characters have selective memories, so the plot goes a certain way. (As much as I like Gosho's writing, this is a major flaw he has issues with. It makes the characters look dumb.)
As for the matter of this case's
Spoiler:
flashback, I find it fascinating how Ran is shown as remembering it. Her reminiscing goes from Conan being there to Shinichi being there in the memory.
Spoiler:
Well, doesn't it always? Hahah, her reminiscing is always connected to Conan somehow. In the airplane case, she remembers when she sees Conan's sleeping face. In the New York case, she faints and when she sees Conan as Shinichi she remembers... It's all conected hahahaha
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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English translation of the Shin/Ran parts of chapter 882:
Spoiler:
p.4

Shinichi (flashback): Through the smell ...

Mitsuhiko: You spontaneously decided to join us today, Ran-san, right?

Ran: Ah, yes, I did ...

Genta: Did you come here before?

Ayumi: Ah! I get it!

Ayumi: You came here on a date with your boyfriend!

Ran: It’s not like that ... I just came here with him ...

Haibara: If you already came here with her we could have gone to a different aquarium, you know?

Conan: A lot of things happened last time, so I never really got to look around ...

Conan: Who are you writing to anyway?

Haibara: To that glutton, who else?

[SFX bubble:] *brrr* *brrr*

Agasa: Hm?

Agasa: A message?

[Message:] How long do you plan on eating? ヽ(`Д´)ノ --Ai

Agasa: Oops …

p.5

Genta: Amazing!

Ayumi: So many fish! ❤

Mitsuhiko: It’s like we’re in the middle of the ocean! ♪

Mitsuhiko: It’s a shark! A shark!

Genta: Cool!

Ayumi: It’s so big!

Ran: ................

Shinichi: They’re like sharks ...

Shinichi: That’s what detectives are ...

Ran (thoughts): That takes me back ...

Ran (thoughts): That Holmes otaku and arrogant detective ...

Ran (thoughts): Even though not even a year has passed since then, it seems like such a long time ago ...

Ran (thoughts): That makes me wonder ...

Ran (thoughts): A that time, was Shinichi already ...

p.6

Ran (thoughts): In love with me?

Agasa: Sorry I’m late ...

Ayumi: Professor!

Genta: You’re way too late!

Mitsuhiko: The dolphin show is already over, you know?!

Ayumi: Ah! You have some nori on your teeth!

Haibara: So you were eating Yakisoba buns after all ...

Conan (thoughts): That’s right, back then I also waited here ...

Conan (thoughts): In front of this shark ...

Shinichi: You’re late ...

p.7

Shinichi: Making people come here and then being late yourself ...

[SFX bubble:] *breathe* *breathe*

Ran: So sorry ... I was held up a bit.

Ran: And why didn’t you wait at the entrance? I had to search for you.

Shinichi: I got an urge to see the sharks ...

Ran: Ah! A message from Sonoko ...

Ran: Her cold is mostly gone, she says!

Shinichi: Huh. How lucky ...

[SFX bubble]: *beep* *beep* *beep*

Shinichi: Let’s get this over with then! Looking around in preparation for this plan of yours ...

Ran: It’s not just any plan!

p.8

Ran: It’s the Great Aquarium Reunion and Love Revival Plan!

Ran: First I’ll invite my dad to come to the aquarium with me ... And in this dreamy environment with fish swarming all about he’ll meet mum! Then the two of them remember the time they fell in love and move back together again!

Ran: And anyway, this was your idea, wasn’t it? You said that an aquarium would be a good place since my dad really likes fish!

Shinichi: Yeah, although Sonoko was the one who came up with the name ...

Shinichi: But you could have scouted the place out on your own, couldn’t you?

Ran: But I’ve never been to an aquarium before. I was unsure about coming here myself!

Ran: I understand full well, you know

Ran: I know that you didn’t want to come to such a lovey-dovey place with me ...

Ran: But Sonoko got a cold and there was no one else ...

Shinichi: Like I said before ...

Shinichi: It’s not like I didn’t want to come ...

Ran: In that case, let’s go to the café together as well!

Ran: It seems they have lots of cute dishes! ❤

Shinichi: Haha

p.9

Ran: I want your opinion for my parents’ sake ...

Shinichi: Yeah, yeah ...

Ran (thoughts): ... is what I pretend this is about ...

Shinichi: We probably shouldn’t let them meet in front of the shark ...

Shinichi: Might give off the wrong image ...

Ran (thoughts): In truth I wanted to ... with Shinichi ...

Ran: Say, Shinichi ...

Shinichi: Hm?

Ran: What do you think?

Shinichi: About what?

Ran: About the dress!

Ran: It’s all the rage right now ...

Shinichi: ......

Shinichi: It’s alright, isn’t it?

Ran: That’s all?

Shinichi: If you want an opinion on the dress so much ...

p.10

Shinichi: Just ask your mom about it!

Shinichi: You’re meeting her for dinner tonight, right?

Ran (thoughts): Eh?

Ran: H-how do you know that?

Shinichi: Wow! Amazing ...

Shinichi: A spotted eagle ray!

Ran (thoughts): There it is again ...

Ran (thoughts): Shinichi’s unpleasant habit ...

Ran (thoughts): He’ll suddenly say something that makes it seems like he can see into your mind ...

Ran (thoughts): And then he just won’t say how he knows ...

Ran: Answer me!

Ran: I didn’t even tell Sonoko or my dad about it, so how do you know?!

Ran: You didn’t look at my phone, did you?!

[...]

p.13

Shinichi: It couldn’t have been anyone else ...

Shinichi: But your mom!

Ran: ................

Shinichi: Well, it seems like there was another reason why you didn’t have any time to prepare dinner ...

Shinichi: Oh, and you were late earlier because of that fashion snapshot and had to run the rest of the way here ...

Shinichi: But don’t run anymore today, alright?

Ran: Eh? Why?

Shinichi: Well, because ...

Shinichi: It’d be sad ...

Ran: Wha?

Ran: Why would it be sad if I ran?

Shinichi: Well, in any case, make sure to avoid running ...

Ran: My name is RUN!

Ran: I was basically born to run, with that name!

Shinichi: Argh, you’re troublesome! I’ll tell you then ...
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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Fujiwara wrote:English translation of the Shin/Ran parts of chapter 882:
Spoiler:
p.4

Shinichi (flashback): Through the smell ...

Mitsuhiko: You spontaneously decided to join us today, Ran-san, right?

Ran: Ah, yes, I did ...

Genta: Did you come here before?

Ayumi: Ah! I get it!

Ayumi: You came here on a date with your boyfriend!

Ran: It’s not like that ... I just came here with him ...

Haibara: If you already came here with her we could have gone to a different aquarium, you know?

Conan: A lot of things happened last time, so I never really got to look around ...

Conan: Who are you writing to anyway?

Haibara: To that glutton, who else?

[SFX bubble:] *brrr* *brrr*

Agasa: Hm?

Agasa: A message?

[Message:] How long do you plan on eating? ヽ(`Д´)ノ --Ai

Agasa: Oops …

p.5

Genta: Amazing!

Ayumi: So many fish! ❤

Mitsuhiko: It’s like we’re in the middle of the ocean! ♪

Mitsuhiko: It’s a shark! A shark!

Genta: Cool!

Ayumi: It’s so big!

Ran: ................

Shinichi: They’re like sharks ...

Shinichi: That’s what detectives are ...

Ran (thoughts): That takes me back ...

Ran (thoughts): That Holmes otaku and arrogant detective ...

Ran (thoughts): Even though not even a year has passed since then, it seems like such a long time ago ...

Ran (thoughts): That makes me wonder ...

Ran (thoughts): A that time, was Shinichi already ...

p.6

Ran (thoughts): In love with me?

Agasa: Sorry I’m late ...

Ayumi: Professor!

Genta: You’re way too late!

Mitsuhiko: The dolphin show is already over, you know?!

Ayumi: Ah! You have some nori on your teeth!

Haibara: So you were eating Yakisoba buns after all ...

Conan (thoughts): That’s right, back then I also waited here ...

Conan (thoughts): In front of this shark ...

Shinichi: You’re late ...

p.7

Shinichi: Making people come here and then being late yourself ...

[SFX bubble:] *breathe* *breathe*

Ran: So sorry ... I was held up a bit.

Ran: And why didn’t you wait at the entrance? I had to search for you.

Shinichi: I got an urge to see the sharks ...

Ran: Ah! A message from Sonoko ...

Ran: Her cold is mostly gone, she says!

Shinichi: Huh. How lucky ...

[SFX bubble]: *beep* *beep* *beep*

Shinichi: Let’s get this over with then! Looking around in preparation for this plan of yours ...

Ran: It’s not just any plan!

p.8

Ran: It’s the Great Aquarium Reunion and Love Revival Plan!

Ran: First I’ll invite my dad to come to the aquarium with me ... And in this dreamy environment with fish swarming all about he’ll meet mum! Then the two of them remember the time they fell in love and move back together again!

Ran: And anyway, this was your idea, wasn’t it? You said that an aquarium would be a good place since my dad really likes fish!

Shinichi: Yeah, although Sonoko was the one who came up with the name ...

Shinichi: But you could have scouted the place out on your own, couldn’t you?

Ran: But I’ve never been to an aquarium before. I was unsure about coming here myself!

Ran: I understand full well, you know

Ran: I know that you didn’t want to come to such a lovey-dovey place with me ...

Ran: But Sonoko got a cold and there was no one else ...

Shinichi: Like I said before ...

Shinichi: It’s not like I didn’t want to come ...

Ran: In that case, let’s go to the café together as well!

Ran: It seems they have lots of cute dishes! ❤

Shinichi: Haha

p.9

Ran: I want your opinion for my parents’ sake ...

Shinichi: Yeah, yeah ...

Ran (thoughts): ... is what I pretend this is about ...

Shinichi: We probably shouldn’t let them meet in front of the shark ...

Shinichi: Might give off the wrong image ...

Ran (thoughts): In truth I wanted to ... with Shinichi ...

Ran: Say, Shinichi ...

Shinichi: Hm?

Ran: What do you think?

Shinichi: About what?

Ran: About the dress!

Ran: It’s all the rage right now ...

Shinichi: ......

Shinichi: It’s alright, isn’t it?

Ran: That’s all?

Shinichi: If you want an opinion on the dress so much ...

p.10

Shinichi: Just ask your mom about it!

Shinichi: You’re meeting her for dinner tonight, right?

Ran (thoughts): Eh?

Ran: H-how do you know that?

Shinichi: Wow! Amazing ...

Shinichi: A spotted eagle ray!

Ran (thoughts): There it is again ...

Ran (thoughts): Shinichi’s unpleasant habit ...

Ran (thoughts): He’ll suddenly say something that makes it seems like he can see into your mind ...

Ran (thoughts): And then he just won’t say how he knows ...

Ran: Answer me!

Ran: I didn’t even tell Sonoko or my dad about it, so how do you know?!

Ran: You didn’t look at my phone, did you?!

[...]

p.13

Shinichi: It couldn’t have been anyone else ...

Shinichi: But your mom!

Ran: ................

Shinichi: Well, it seems like there was another reason why you didn’t have any time to prepare dinner ...

Shinichi: Oh, and you were late earlier because of that fashion snapshot and had to run the rest of the way here ...

Shinichi: But don’t run anymore today, alright?

Ran: Eh? Why?

Shinichi: Well, because ...

Shinichi: It’d be sad ...

Ran: Wha?

Ran: Why would it be sad if I ran?

Shinichi: Well, in any case, make sure to avoid running ...

Ran: My name is RUN!

Ran: I was basically born to run, with that name!

Shinichi: Argh, you’re troublesome! I’ll tell you then ...
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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Thanks, this clears up a lot.

It's actually funny that Ran is now quite cheery when she is thinking "That Holmes otaku and arrogant detective", normally she is a bit angry.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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Fujiwara wrote:English translation of the Shin/Ran parts of chapter 882:
Spoiler:
p.4

Shinichi (flashback): Through the smell ...

Mitsuhiko: You spontaneously decided to join us today, Ran-san, right?

Ran: Ah, yes, I did ...

Genta: Did you come here before?

Ayumi: Ah! I get it!

Ayumi: You came here on a date with your boyfriend!

Ran: It’s not like that ... I just came here with him ...

Haibara: If you already came here with her we could have gone to a different aquarium, you know?

Conan: A lot of things happened last time, so I never really got to look around ...

Conan: Who are you writing to anyway?

Haibara: To that glutton, who else?

[SFX bubble:] *brrr* *brrr*

Agasa: Hm?

Agasa: A message?

[Message:] How long do you plan on eating? ヽ(`Д´)ノ --Ai

Agasa: Oops …

p.5

Genta: Amazing!

Ayumi: So many fish! ❤

Mitsuhiko: It’s like we’re in the middle of the ocean! ♪

Mitsuhiko: It’s a shark! A shark!

Genta: Cool!

Ayumi: It’s so big!

Ran: ................

Shinichi: They’re like sharks ...

Shinichi: That’s what detectives are ...

Ran (thoughts): That takes me back ...

Ran (thoughts): That Holmes otaku and arrogant detective ...

Ran (thoughts): Even though not even a year has passed since then, it seems like such a long time ago ...

Ran (thoughts): That makes me wonder ...

Ran (thoughts): A that time, was Shinichi already ...

p.6

Ran (thoughts): In love with me?

Agasa: Sorry I’m late ...

Ayumi: Professor!

Genta: You’re way too late!

Mitsuhiko: The dolphin show is already over, you know?!

Ayumi: Ah! You have some nori on your teeth!

Haibara: So you were eating Yakisoba buns after all ...

Conan (thoughts): That’s right, back then I also waited here ...

Conan (thoughts): In front of this shark ...

Shinichi: You’re late ...

p.7

Shinichi: Making people come here and then being late yourself ...

[SFX bubble:] *breathe* *breathe*

Ran: So sorry ... I was held up a bit.

Ran: And why didn’t you wait at the entrance? I had to search for you.

Shinichi: I got an urge to see the sharks ...

Ran: Ah! A message from Sonoko ...

Ran: Her cold is mostly gone, she says!

Shinichi: Huh. How lucky ...

[SFX bubble]: *beep* *beep* *beep*

Shinichi: Let’s get this over with then! Looking around in preparation for this plan of yours ...

Ran: It’s not just any plan!

p.8

Ran: It’s the Great Aquarium Reunion and Love Revival Plan!

Ran: First I’ll invite my dad to come to the aquarium with me ... And in this dreamy environment with fish swarming all about he’ll meet mum! Then the two of them remember the time they fell in love and move back together again!

Ran: And anyway, this was your idea, wasn’t it? You said that an aquarium would be a good place since my dad really likes fish!

Shinichi: Yeah, although Sonoko was the one who came up with the name ...

Shinichi: But you could have scouted the place out on your own, couldn’t you?

Ran: But I’ve never been to an aquarium before. I was unsure about coming here myself!

Ran: I understand full well, you know

Ran: I know that you didn’t want to come to such a lovey-dovey place with me ...

Ran: But Sonoko got a cold and there was no one else ...

Shinichi: Like I said before ...

Shinichi: It’s not like I didn’t want to come ...

Ran: In that case, let’s go to the café together as well!

Ran: It seems they have lots of cute dishes! ❤

Shinichi: Haha

p.9

Ran: I want your opinion for my parents’ sake ...

Shinichi: Yeah, yeah ...

Ran (thoughts): ... is what I pretend this is about ...

Shinichi: We probably shouldn’t let them meet in front of the shark ...

Shinichi: Might give off the wrong image ...

Ran (thoughts): In truth I wanted to ... with Shinichi ...

Ran: Say, Shinichi ...

Shinichi: Hm?

Ran: What do you think?

Shinichi: About what?

Ran: About the dress!

Ran: It’s all the rage right now ...

Shinichi: ......

Shinichi: It’s alright, isn’t it?

Ran: That’s all?

Shinichi: If you want an opinion on the dress so much ...

p.10

Shinichi: Just ask your mom about it!

Shinichi: You’re meeting her for dinner tonight, right?

Ran (thoughts): Eh?

Ran: H-how do you know that?

Shinichi: Wow! Amazing ...

Shinichi: A spotted eagle ray!

Ran (thoughts): There it is again ...

Ran (thoughts): Shinichi’s unpleasant habit ...

Ran (thoughts): He’ll suddenly say something that makes it seems like he can see into your mind ...

Ran (thoughts): And then he just won’t say how he knows ...

Ran: Answer me!

Ran: I didn’t even tell Sonoko or my dad about it, so how do you know?!

Ran: You didn’t look at my phone, did you?!

[...]

p.13

Shinichi: It couldn’t have been anyone else ...

Shinichi: But your mom!

Ran: ................

Shinichi: Well, it seems like there was another reason why you didn’t have any time to prepare dinner ...

Shinichi: Oh, and you were late earlier because of that fashion snapshot and had to run the rest of the way here ...

Shinichi: But don’t run anymore today, alright?

Ran: Eh? Why?

Shinichi: Well, because ...

Shinichi: It’d be sad ...

Ran: Wha?

Ran: Why would it be sad if I ran?

Shinichi: Well, in any case, make sure to avoid running ...

Ran: My name is RUN!

Ran: I was basically born to run, with that name!

Shinichi: Argh, you’re troublesome! I’ll tell you then ...
Well, this is nice. Though we cant really expect progress due to a flashback, but getting to see Ran's real thoughts is a great character insight.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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the chapter is really nice, it's been some time we had a Shinichi-Ran related chapter/case. And of course, seeing Ran's real thoughts is great as well.
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I can't wait to see what Shinichi was going to say there, but I think guy was found dead and interrupted him. I wonder if the case will continue with the present or with the flashbacks of the past case.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 882-88X

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Maybe Conan will say what Shinichi wanted to say... Although that would make Ran even more suspicious towards Conan.
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