Detective Conan Manga Files 787-789: (Another Kogorou)

[mangaluva]

The cases are plots, but they are not The Plot. The problem with the Plot that Gosho set up is that it's the basis of the manga and almost time-locked, which makes the filler chapters seem more unnecessary than, say, episodes of Doctor Who like "Blink" or "Night Terrors". With DW, the show came first and various long-running plots cropped up afterwards. With DC, it started on a long-running plot and just seems to have forgotten about it, which is naturally very irritating to those of us who want to know what will happen next in said plot, and are worrying about the fact you'd think that there is only so long that things can go on as they are (normally, in this situation, you'd expect him to have to deal with changing grades, missing his high school graduation, etc. The fact that time passage is ignored when other aspects of Conan's condition are handled quite seriously is disorienting to say the least).

But I ramble. Basically, cases are subplots, but they are not The Plot, and some of us would quite like The Plot to be addressed again sometime this decade.

[Eve]

The cases are plots, but they are not The Plot. The problem with the Plot that Gosho set up is that it's the basis of the manga and almost time-locked, which makes the filler chapters seem more unnecessary than, say, episodes of Doctor Who like "Blink" or "Night Terrors". With DW, the show came first and various long-running plots cropped up afterwards. With DC, it started on a long-running plot and just seems to have forgotten about it, which is naturally very irritating to those of us who want to know what will happen next in said plot, and are worrying about the fact you'd think that there is only so long that things can go on as they are (normally, in this situation, you'd expect him to have to deal with changing grades, missing his high school graduation, etc. The fact that time passage is ignored when other aspects of Conan's condition are handled quite seriously is disorienting to say the least).

But I ramble. Basically, cases are subplots, but they are not The Plot, and some of us would quite like The Plot to be addressed again sometime this decade.

^ I'm with mangaluva on this one. Not complaining or anything, The Plot and cases/subplots are different, some people prefer just The Plot, some are just okay with the cases. No hard feelings or anything... So the people who only wants to know about The Plot would be afraid of missing The Plot but not wanting to read subplots, hence, when they asked, it's not necessary to be annoyed at them ... Or I'm just ranting.. LOL

Back to the case....

Spoiler:

I suddenly feel like the fake Kogorou has something to do with it... maybe it's a random hunch LOLO

[hgokuh]

The cases are plots, but they are not The Plot. The problem with the Plot that Gosho set up is that it's the basis of the manga and almost time-locked, which makes the filler chapters seem more unnecessary than, say, episodes of Doctor Who like "Blink" or "Night Terrors". With DW, the show came first and various long-running plots cropped up afterwards. With DC, it started on a long-running plot and just seems to have forgotten about it, which is naturally very irritating to those of us who want to know what will happen next in said plot, and are worrying about the fact you'd think that there is only so long that things can go on as they are (normally, in this situation, you'd expect him to have to deal with changing grades, missing his high school graduation, etc. The fact that time passage is ignored when other aspects of Conan's condition are handled quite seriously is disorienting to say the least).

But I ramble. Basically, cases are subplots, but they are not The Plot, and some of us would quite like The Plot to be addressed again sometime this decade.

What I´m trying to say is that every case, you have the same people writing almost the same message, we get it, you want Black Org, no need to come every case to write about it, or open a post just for that, leave the cases posts for the cases, there are people who like all of Conan, not just one part of it. For me the Black Org is just another case, the main case of DC, but I have fun with all the other cases too, some are better some are worst, like all other things in life.

[leokiko]

..and it will keep happening. That shows how much we fans want it. I WANT A BO CASE GOSHO DAMN YOU!



...I still enjoy these cases tho  ;D

What's the point in discussing anyway, BO cases are naturally more interesting than normal ones simply because we feel an actual plot developing. No way ppl will stop asking for more.

[Wakarimashita]

What's the point in discussing anyway, BO cases are naturally more interesting than normal ones simply because we feel an actual plot developing. No way ppl will stop asking for more.

Not for me. A lot of normal cases are far more interesting than the BO cases (especially the recent ones).

And +1 hgokuh.

[leokiko]

I never said it was for everyone. But for most people? Yes, it is.

[Suutashi]

Guys, if you want to complain about the lack of plot, go create a separate forum thread and do your complaining there!

[doublemoonlight]

@ all mourners...  I KNOW ABOUT LACK OF PLOTS... WELL WELLCOME TO DC WHERE PLOTS ONLY HAPPEN ONCE IN A 100 CASES... NOW SHUT UP AND MANN UP BOY!!!!

[Wakarimashita]

Great file, I liked the fact that the imposter is actually hiding something, although I suspect he'll end up being a nice guy anyway.

[doublemoonlight]

I really hope that imposter dose not become a bad buy... I had enough of it from old case...

[Apprentice of Shiho]

Personally, I think that the old guy (Ishigane Ken) is the culprit.
I think someone mentioned how the remote could interfere with both the victim's and the old lady's TVs. Since the old man has a broken window, perhaps he was able to manipulate the victim's TV from his room?

Oh, and maybe the imposter is the landlord's secret illegitimate child (hence calling the old lady "mother")?

[aly_angelflight]

Crazy, off the wall theory: the imposter is actually the landlady's son. She doesn't recognize him because he was kidnapped when he was little. Or alternately, he was disinherited for whatever reason, and he looks nothing like he did when she last saw him.

[ssjup81]

The cases are plots, but they are not The Plot. The problem with the Plot that Gosho set up is that it's the basis of the manga and almost time-locked, which makes the filler chapters seem more unnecessary than, say, episodes of Doctor Who like "Blink" or "Night Terrors". With DW, the show came first and various long-running plots cropped up afterwards. With DC, it started on a long-running plot and just seems to have forgotten about it, which is naturally very irritating to those of us who want to know what will happen next in said plot, and are worrying about the fact you'd think that there is only so long that things can go on as they are (normally, in this situation, you'd expect him to have to deal with changing grades, missing his high school graduation, etc. The fact that time passage is ignored when other aspects of Conan's condition are handled quite seriously is disorienting to say the least).

But I ramble. Basically, cases are subplots, but they are not The Plot, and some of us would quite like The Plot to be addressed again sometime this decade.

Back to the case....

Spoiler:

I suddenly feel like the fake Kogorou has something to do with it... maybe it's a random hunch LOLO

I feel the same way, but I think it's a bit too obvious, but the person you have in mind might have something to do with the television trick.

Spoiler:

I also have this feeling that he's not fully lying (if it turns out he has nothing to do with the case).  Maybe he's an old boyfriend, and trying to get into the grandmother's life to weasel some information out of her...or who knows. I forgot, he called her "mother"...scratch my entire poorly thought out theory.

What's the point in discussing anyway, BO cases are naturally more interesting than normal ones simply because we feel an actual plot developing. No way ppl will stop asking for more.

Not for me. A lot of normal cases are far more interesting than the BO cases (especially the recent ones).

And +1 hgokuh.

I agree with this.  As far as BO cases go, it depends entirely on the actual case.  That aside, I'm really enjoying this one, but the ending of it (and the trick/culprit) will determine whether I'd rank it a 10/10 or not.

[Eve]

Spoiler:

I hope it's not the long lost son coming back theory? Or is he a con artist? Wait no, he was there for awhile... hmmm.... the the loud voice when speaking to the old woman who's not deaf....? I think the TV, the remote, the shadows have something to do with it... just don't know how yet...

[Conan 48:69]

Look like the 3 suspects had been figured out that Kogoro is imposter after seeing Kogoro's portrait on Bannai's handphone, so these 3 suspects forced fake Kogoro to deduct so he had no choice but to reveal a truth. Wonder if Conan knew that too so Conan tried to cover fake Kogoro.