[Files 775-777] Target on Tape

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Who are the kidnappers and what were they after?

Gin and Vodka - in Vodka's car. They were after Haibara and mistook Ayumi for her
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Two random B.O. members who were after Haibara and mistook Ayumi for her
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Two random criminals who were after the carpet, but took Ayumi as well for some reason
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Two random criminals who were after what was inside the vase, but took Ayumi as well for some reason
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Two random criminals who wanted to kidnap the "girl who was living with Agasa" in order to demand a ransom
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Two criminals who were referred to in Chiba's First Love Case
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Two criminals who had something to do with a former case in which Haibara wore those clothes, and for some reason, they are after her, but they mistook Ayumi for her
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Billy and Fusae have gone wild!
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THESE TWO!
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Conan 48:69 wrote: On page 4, why do Genta say "that neechan from Conan's place", so Genta forgot Ran already? And Mitsuhiko said "that high-school detective he knew", so Mitsuhiko forgot Kudo Shinichi already?
I'm not going to excuse Genta, but at least as far as the manga goes the DB haven't interacted with Shinichi all that much.  In fact, the only time I can actually recall them meeting was in Desperate Revival, where he said "Hey" to them and they're like "Who's that?".
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Commi-Ninja wrote:

It could still be a BO case... what if it's two newer members sent to get Ai, but the only thing they know about her is her clothes?  Then they could mistake Ayumi for Ai.

Telling kidnappers about clothes doesn't make much since. But Ayumi did have her handband on. It could be possible that they were just told "Get the girl with short hair that lives with the old man." The kidnappers wouldn't know the difference since Ayumi was the only one there.
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ProfParanoia wrote:
Akonyl wrote: My only question is if the kidnappers aren't BO related, what happened to Sera?
Off screen Sera x Okiya?
well, Okiya followed the kids to the supermarket, so unless Sera followed Okiya to the store for some action I doubt that's the case.
Commi-Ninja wrote: It could still be a BO case... what if it's two newer members sent to get Ai, but the only thing they know about her is her clothes?  Then they could mistake Ayumi for Ai.
I would hope the BO wouldn't send a few newbies out to get a high-priority target like Ai, they should know better than that. :P
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Akonyl wrote: I would hope the BO wouldn't send a few newbies out to get a high-priority target like Ai, they should know better than that. :P
The Boss's way of punishing Gin? XD

I agree, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  I'm just throwing out possibilities.  In that sense, it's much more likely to be FBI/CIA, as Agasa didn't die and they took the wrong kid.  Surely, though, the FBI would know what Ai looks like versus Ayumi.


Unless!
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Ayumi really was the target all along! :o

And she's the BO boss, shrunken to the size of child, etc., etc.
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leokiko wrote: Also, Ai on those clothes? Too cute, I wanna see Sherry like that =D
^this.
I would love to see Sherry in a case...It's a shame we only saw her once ...
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Commi-Ninja wrote: Unless!
Spoiler:
Ayumi really was the target all along! :o

And she's the BO boss, shrunken to the size of child, etc., etc.
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or maybe she was abducted because the kidnapper's a creeper and saw this file + the onsen files.

Of course, because he saw this file, he also had to kidnap her just to avoid a time paradox.
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AICHAN wrote:
leokiko wrote: Also, Ai on those clothes? Too cute, I wanna see Sherry like that =D
^this.
I would love to see Sherry in a case...It's a shame we only saw her once ...
It makes sense since unlike Shinichi, she probably won't go back to her adult form unless there's an absolute necessity. And that's not even sure, maybe she doesn't even want to become Sherry again (at least, not until the BO is taken down). I mean the only time it happened she didn't transform back voluntarily, Conan just didn't tell her what the effects of the Pikaru where.
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I would just love to see it happen accidentally again ;D
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leokiko wrote: I would just love to see it happen accidentally again ;D
You will have to wait for years, I think. ^^
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Akonyl wrote:
Commi-Ninja wrote: It could still be a BO case... what if it's two newer members sent to get Ai, but the only thing they know about her is her clothes?  Then they could mistake Ayumi for Ai.
I would hope the BO wouldn't send a few newbies out to get a high-priority target like Ai, they should know better than that. :P
Send their top agents just to capture one runaway female scientist?
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...(Ai)...who is very important to the organization and knows many secrets about them...

They SHOULD send their top agents to capture her.
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psyko_stevey_999 wrote: I am of the impression that they meant to take Ai
That was my thought as well. Ayumi was wearing the same outfit of Haibara's that Haibara was wearing in the video. Why would they want to kidnap Haibara, though? I don't think it's BO-related.

Or they were going for the rug and kidnapped Ayumi because she saw them.
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1Kaito wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
Commi-Ninja wrote: It could still be a BO case... what if it's two newer members sent to get Ai, but the only thing they know about her is her clothes?  Then they could mistake Ayumi for Ai.
I would hope the BO wouldn't send a few newbies out to get a high-priority target like Ai, they should know better than that. :P
Send their top agents just to capture one runaway female scientist?
They've done it before and they failed, so they should know getting newbies to do it won't solve anything :P

And when that scientist has crucial knowledge regarding the development of a secret poison, I'd imagine it's a high priority to not mess up the mission.
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psyko_stevey_999 wrote: I am of the impression that they meant to take Ai
That was my thought as well. Ayumi was wearing the same outfit of Haibara's that Haibara was wearing in the video. Why would they want to kidnap Haibara, though? I don't think it's BO-related.
at the very least, that's what gosho wants you to think, but if these are just normal people who saw the video, you have to wonder if they can just enhance-enhance-enhance like Conan did to see Ai's reflection in Agasa's glasses. So your point of her just being a witness seems like it would make more sense in that case.
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PhoenixTears wrote:
psyko_stevey_999 wrote: I am of the impression that they meant to take Ai
Or they were going for the rug and kidnapped Ayumi because she saw them.
They could have just knocked her off and left her there, like they did with Agasa. No need to kidnap here. Conan-tachi would realize the rug would be missing even if they didn't take Ayumi.
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Akonyl wrote:
1Kaito wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
Commi-Ninja wrote: It could still be a BO case... what if it's two newer members sent to get Ai, but the only thing they know about her is her clothes?  Then they could mistake Ayumi for Ai.
I would hope the BO wouldn't send a few newbies out to get a high-priority target like Ai, they should know better than that. :P
Send their top agents just to capture one runaway female scientist?
They've done it before
When? You mean with Gin, Pisco, and Vermouth? Didn't they try to kill her on their own without any orders from the boss?
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