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Where is the confined person located?

Imprisoned in a room/closet/elevator
4
12%
Sealed into a wall/column
14
41%
Trapped in a duct
0
No votes
Within the staircase
2
6%
Under the ground floor
0
No votes
Trapped in a space between floors/ceilings
2
6%
On the roof
0
No votes
Restrained and disguised as or in an object (ex trashcan)
3
9%
In an elevator shaft (if there is one)
1
3%
Secret room/cubbyhole
5
15%
Duct-taped to the ceiling
0
No votes
Somewhere else (please explain)
0
No votes
A combination of some of the above (please explain)
0
No votes
Nobody is trapped
3
9%
 
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The London case was not bad per se, it's just that there was no reason to go to London for that.
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Dus wrote: The London case was not bad per se, it's just that there was no reason to go to London for that.
Why not go to London? It's different, interesting, and a change of scenery. Also, Tokyo doesn't have the dissociative identity disorder that the London skyline has which helps Hades' riddle. I think people were disappointed because their expectations were way too high. Less hype makes for greater happiness.
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Why not go to London? Because it created a s***load of plotholes, and the change of scenery didn't influence the case as much. Wit a few adjustments this could have worked in Tokyo as well (like the DB case with the Italian mafia in Volume 4 or so).
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
soratothamax wrote: And hey, who would've guessed Agasa was the old man trapped in the locker? XD
Half the SD forum ;)
soratothamax wrote: London Case was horrifying. How can you pass that off as a legit case? London should have been way better than that.
The London case was fine. Deciphering Hades' code was a lot of fun and was one a few written codes that did not involve mind munching Japenese wordplay. It was also pretty clever. I know you don't like ShinRan, but don't knock a good mystery for only that reason.
It has absolutely nothing to do with ShinRan. In fact, the only way I can even see that case making it was because of ShinRan. I just really thought the case was executed in all the wrong ways. That really is an assumption. Of course, I explained why I thought so in a different board that was more on that topic.

First off, they got invited to London because of a cat? That is completely poor storytelling. Second, they get to London, and barely see the woman that invited them...and then Conan runs into an English boy who speaks Japanese?...how ironic. Third, Conan runs around London trying to decipher a code only to find it was a trick and his original assumption was right in the first place (although this was okay, because finally Conan was wrong for a change)? So basically Gosho threw in that scene just to guide us around London so we could see the "sites" which was basically pointless. And then the next several chapters was about Minerva playing tennis and saying "Holmes' Apprentice" the whole time. It kept zeroing in on her thoughts, and just when you thought the mystery got somewhere, it got nowhere, it continued to show Minerva playing tennis. Boring case, completely left holes, and just utterly pointless case. No it was not a good case in my opinion. Maybe in yours. Not in mine. I don't know where your assumption came from, but perhaps you should read my reasons for thinking that case was not executed in a good way. I had high expectations for a case that was supposed to take place in London, Holmes' birthplace, and it was quite disappointing for me. You should read before you respond.

And I was being sarcastic with the Agasa thing. It was more hilarious than unexpected. As I said, this case was bad too. Read please. I remember Agasa was kidnapped before in an AO...or was it a special episode? It wasn't shocking.

This is why I hate that I gave my opinion on the romance aspect because people will think that is my whole reasons for my ideas.  ::) If it is a bad case, it is, with or without romance.
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soratothamax wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
soratothamax wrote: And hey, who would've guessed Agasa was the old man trapped in the locker? XD
Half the SD forum ;)
soratothamax wrote: London Case was horrifying. How can you pass that off as a legit case? London should have been way better than that.
The London case was fine. Deciphering Hades' code was a lot of fun and was one a few written codes that did not involve mind munching Japenese wordplay. It was also pretty clever. I know you don't like ShinRan, but don't knock a good mystery for only that reason.
It has absolutely nothing to do with ShinRan. In fact, the only way I can even see that case making it was because of ShinRan. I just really thought the case was executed in all the wrong ways. That really is an assumption. Of course, I explained why I thought so in a different board that was more on that topic.

First off, they got invited to London because of a cat? That is completely poor storytelling. Second, they get to London, and barely see the woman that invited them...and then Conan runs into an English boy who speaks Japanese?...how ironic. Third, Conan runs around London trying to decipher a code only to find it was a trick and his original assumption was right in the first place (although this was okay, because finally Conan was wrong for a change)? So basically Gosho threw in that scene just to guide us around London so we could see the "sites" which was basically pointless. And then the next several chapters was about Minerva playing tennis and saying "Holmes' Apprentice" the whole time. It kept zeroing in on her thoughts, and just when you thought the mystery got somewhere, it got nowhere, it continued to show Minerva playing tennis. Boring case, completely left holes, and just utterly pointless case. No it was not a good case in my opinion. Maybe in yours. Not in mine. I don't know where your assumption came from, but perhaps you should read my reasons for thinking that case was not executed in a good way. I had high expectations for a case that was supposed to take place in London, Holmes' birthplace, and it was quite disappointing for me. You should read before you respond.

And I was being sarcastic with the Agasa thing. It was more hilarious than unexpected. As I said, this case was bad too. Read please. I remember Agasa was kidnapped before in an AO...or was it a special episode? It wasn't shocking.

This is why I hate that I gave my opinion on the romance aspect because people will think that is my whole reasons for my ideas.  ::) If it is a bad case, it is, with or without romance.


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Why? Do you think he'll curl up and cry? He better, because this arc really failed to deliver. I hope he still has something epic planned...
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Dus wrote: Why? Do you think he'll curl up and cry? He better, because this arc really failed to deliver. I hope he still has something epic planned...


Yes, I think he'll curl up and cry since he stated he really wanted to draw this case :P
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soratothamax wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
soratothamax wrote: And hey, who would've guessed Agasa was the old man trapped in the locker? XD
Half the SD forum ;)
soratothamax wrote: London Case was horrifying. How can you pass that off as a legit case? London should have been way better than that.
The London case was fine. Deciphering Hades' code was a lot of fun and was one a few written codes that did not involve mind munching Japenese wordplay. It was also pretty clever. I know you don't like ShinRan, but don't knock a good mystery for only that reason.
It has absolutely nothing to do with ShinRan. In fact, the only way I can even see that case making it was because of ShinRan. I just really thought the case was executed in all the wrong ways. That really is an assumption. Of course, I explained why I thought so in a different board that was more on that topic.

First off, they got invited to London because of a cat? That is completely poor storytelling. Second, they get to London, and barely see the woman that invited them...and then Conan runs into an English boy who speaks Japanese?...how ironic. Third, Conan runs around London trying to decipher a code only to find it was a trick and his original assumption was right in the first place (although this was okay, because finally Conan was wrong for a change)? So basically Gosho threw in that scene just to guide us around London so we could see the "sites" which was basically pointless. And then the next several chapters was about Minerva playing tennis and saying "Holmes' Apprentice" the whole time. It kept zeroing in on her thoughts, and just when you thought the mystery got somewhere, it got nowhere, it continued to show Minerva playing tennis. Boring case, completely left holes, and just utterly pointless case. No it was not a good case in my opinion. Maybe in yours. Not in mine. I don't know where your assumption came from, but perhaps you should read my reasons for thinking that case was not executed in a good way. I had high expectations for a case that was supposed to take place in London, Holmes' birthplace, and it was quite disappointing for me. You should read before you respond.

And I was being sarcastic with the Agasa thing. It was more hilarious than unexpected. As I said, this case was bad too. Read please. I remember Agasa was kidnapped before in an AO...or was it a special episode? It wasn't shocking.

This is why I hate that I gave my opinion on the romance aspect because people will think that is my whole reasons for my ideas.  ::) If it is a bad case, it is, with or without romance.
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kkslider5552000 wrote:
soratothamax wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
soratothamax wrote: And hey, who would've guessed Agasa was the old man trapped in the locker? XD
Half the SD forum ;)
soratothamax wrote: London Case was horrifying. How can you pass that off as a legit case? London should have been way better than that.
The London case was fine. Deciphering Hades' code was a lot of fun and was one a few written codes that did not involve mind munching Japenese wordplay. It was also pretty clever. I know you don't like ShinRan, but don't knock a good mystery for only that reason.
It has absolutely nothing to do with ShinRan. In fact, the only way I can even see that case making it was because of ShinRan. I just really thought the case was executed in all the wrong ways. That really is an assumption. Of course, I explained why I thought so in a different board that was more on that topic.

First off, they got invited to London because of a cat? That is completely poor storytelling. Second, they get to London, and barely see the woman that invited them...and then Conan runs into an English boy who speaks Japanese?...how ironic. Third, Conan runs around London trying to decipher a code only to find it was a trick and his original assumption was right in the first place (although this was okay, because finally Conan was wrong for a change)? So basically Gosho threw in that scene just to guide us around London so we could see the "sites" which was basically pointless. And then the next several chapters was about Minerva playing tennis and saying "Holmes' Apprentice" the whole time. It kept zeroing in on her thoughts, and just when you thought the mystery got somewhere, it got nowhere, it continued to show Minerva playing tennis. Boring case, completely left holes, and just utterly pointless case. No it was not a good case in my opinion. Maybe in yours. Not in mine. I don't know where your assumption came from, but perhaps you should read my reasons for thinking that case was not executed in a good way. I had high expectations for a case that was supposed to take place in London, Holmes' birthplace, and it was quite disappointing for me. You should read before you respond.

And I was being sarcastic with the Agasa thing. It was more hilarious than unexpected. As I said, this case was bad too. Read please. I remember Agasa was kidnapped before in an AO...or was it a special episode? It wasn't shocking.

This is why I hate that I gave my opinion on the romance aspect because people will think that is my whole reasons for my ideas.  ::) If it is a bad case, it is, with or without romance.
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I am not sure exactly why it is that there is a discussion about the London case in this here kidnapping case discussion thread.
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The London Case was great! Not really great, but great. I loved the mystery and I find it hard to hate such a case. Besides, there's probably something behind the Diana lady, so don't start yelling "plot holes" just yet.
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Abs. wrote: I am not sure exactly why it is that there is a discussion about the London case in this here kidnapping case discussion thread.
BECAUSE, Okiya showed up and we wondered about when in the world his identity is going to get published or whatever and then just happened to stumble upon the topic. :P
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Introuble wrote:The London Case was great! Not really great, but great. I loved the mystery and I find it hard to hate such a case. Besides, there's probably something behind the Diana lady, so don't start yelling "plot holes" just yet.
That's pretty much how I felt about the London arc.  It was okay, and I liked trying to solve the riddle, even though I failed miserably, but, I did find the way they were invited to London incredibly lame and and just downright unbelievable.  I think I would've preferred it if they'd been invited in another way.  Like, maybe, someone tried to snatch the lady's purse, and Kogoro or someone get it back for her and as gratitude, invite them to London.  The cat thing just seemed too petty for my liking.
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At the risk of discussing even more London case in this thread, it's obvious the cat thing was put in there to work us up into a frenzy about a LADY that speaks ENGLISH as if she were ROYALTY and has a CAT
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