Detective Conan Files 796-800 Discussion Thread: Dun dun dun

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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
User 4869 wrote:
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Vermouth most likely have Bourbon promise to not harm/protect Conan and Co. That may be the reason for his action in the bank robber case.
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It would make sense, although it opens a can of worms on how much he knows and why.

I can't figure out why the 3rd woman is the robber. She seems to genuinely be a lefty considering the lamp, pens, and cup, and she holds the gun to Conan's head in the spoiler pic left handed. Were the video and photos taken through a mirror or something because all the robbers seem to be right handed? Having a trash bag of all the same type of food is weird, but it could be that she likes beef rice and bought a package in bulk.
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
User 4869 wrote:
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Vermouth most likely have Bourbon promise to not harm/protect Conan and Co. That may be the reason for his action in the bank robber case.
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It would make sense, although it opens a can of worms on how much he knows and why.

I can't figure out why the 3rd woman is the robber. She seems to genuinely be a lefty considering the lamp, pens, and cup, and she holds the gun to Conan's head in the spoiler pic left handed. Were the video and photos taken through a mirror or something because all the robbers seem to be right handed? Having a trash bag of all the same type of food is weird, but it could be that she likes beef rice and bought a package in bulk.

Yes from the spoiler pics...
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Something is definitely weird, since it seems the third robber is definitely left handed (matching her pen/coffee cup on table) although the video footage shows all of the robbers being right handed??

As for the food/garbage I think Abs explanation helps explain that the third woman was the only woman who has spent the heist money with a machine, and that the coins the second man was using probably implies they all intended to launder the money through ticketing/vending machines.  In summary: The second woman bought expensive clothes from a cashier and bought food at a convenience store, and the first woman works at a convenience store and cooks at home so she presumably buys all her food at her place of work.  The third woman apparently has bought gyudon from ticketing machines to launder the heist money.
The climax to this case looks to be epic =D
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Like Chekhov already pointed out, how much does Bourbon knows? Assuming Vermouth made an promise regarding not harming Conan/Ran in exchange for her disguising skills, he should know something is up with Conan. Also, if even Eisuke found out Kogoro's deductions got a lot better and the ''Sleeping Kogoro'' appeared AFTER Conan moved in, why would Amuro NOT discover something like that.

He is an specialist in information gathering, if Vermouth mentioned that, he would for sure get interested.
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THANK YOU GOSHO. THANK YOU

For what you may ask? For finally making someone that just grabs Conan by the wrist. It's been proven here, folks, just grab him by the left wrist and he's powerless. It's like, his Achilles Wrist I guess.


Also: I must stop reading this thread. There are too many great ideas coming from it :VV I can't doodle forever you inspirations you :X

Lastly: HYPPPPPPPEEEEEEEE
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Sort of belated on this response as I was very busy. >.__<  I guess they were working when I posted them at that time, but I'm not surprised if their existence reached their time limits. Asian image hosting sites don't usually last too long. (Thankfully, on that same day I posted it, the English scanlation came out...)
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NOOO!!! Slow down!
Slow down so Sonoci can 4koma everything ;D
And this case...
AWESOME!
800 spoilers sure made me lose my sanity...
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[img width=450]http://img45.imagehaven.net/images/311d ... HV_003.jpg[/img]
^ Lol, what if the thing he's really trying to get in his pocket is really a cream stew and not a gun? ;D

Aaaaand, I can't really wait for this file! Vermouth, I've been waiting ♥
I also think that the promise thing she's talking about, is about Conan :o but, that'd be too dangerous if she really told Bourbon anything about Conan-kun. What if Bourbon isn't really that nice? What if he's just pretending & is really evil? :o though I believe in the theory that Bourbon would be like Vermouth too, aka in Conan's side. But it'd be awesome too if Bourbon would be in the bad side & not in Conan's. And, is it just me or Haibara didn't really sense some BO nearby (except for Okiya's but what about Bourbon's?)? Well, *crosses fingers* we'll see in the next file! Hype!
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briggettkylie wrote:
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[img width=450]http://img45.imagehaven.net/images/311d ... HV_003.jpg[/img]
^ Lol, what if the thing he's really trying to get in his pocket is really a cream stew and not a gun? ;D

Aaaaand, I can't really wait for this file! Vermouth, I've been waiting ♥
I also think that the promise thing she's talking about, is about Conan :o but, that'd be too dangerous if she really told Bourbon anything about Conan-kun. What if Bourbon isn't really that nice? What if he's just pretending & is really evil? :o though I believe in the theory that Bourbon would be like Vermouth too, aka in Conan's side. But it'd be awesome too if Bourbon would be in the bad side & not in Conan's. And, is it just me or Haibara didn't really sense some BO nearby (except for Okiya's but what about Bourbon's?)? Well, *crosses fingers* we'll see in the next file! Hype!
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He isn't doing anything probably because he is in debt with Vermouth (she helped him disguising as SA) so she made the promise with him. But, well, everything is unclear and these theories may as well be.
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I think all of us believe that Vermouth definitely called one of them, right? What about the other two, whose are those calls?
This is my view on this:
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they all talk on their phones.

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I think it's Sera calling Akai to see who his brother is, and it turns out Amuro picks it up (Amuro-is-Akai-theory) which is a HUGE twist. Okiya is of course Bourbon answering vermouth's call. Sera has no idea that Bourbon was at the scene.

Then they somehow all go home. 800 is the start of a whole new clash
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Cider wrote:
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I think all of us believe that Vermouth definitely called one of them, right? What about the other two, whose are those calls?
This is my view on this:
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they all talk on their phones.

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I think it's Sera calling Akai to see who his brother is, and it turns out Amuro picks it up (Amuro-is-Akai-theory) which is a HUGE twist. Okiya is of course Bourbon answering vermouth's call. Sera has no idea that Bourbon was at the scene.

Then they somehow all go home. 800 is the start of a whole new clash
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o_O where did u get the "Amuro is Akai" theory?
And for some reason, i feel like ur intepretation has flaws to it ._.
First, why would Sera be calling Akai so randomly at that time? The image depicted that she's picking up a call, not calling someone.  And also from the picture order, Sera's picture came after Tooru's picture. So that interpretation of sera calling akai and amuro picks up is kinda strange.
Secondly, i've never heard of the Amuro is Akai theory... o.O
Though it is definitely an interesting prediction
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Cider wrote:
Spoiler:
I think all of us believe that Vermouth definitely called one of them, right? What about the other two, whose are those calls?
This is my view on this:
Image

they all talk on their phones.

Image


I think it's Sera calling Akai to see who his brother is, and it turns out Amuro picks it up (Amuro-is-Akai-theory) which is a HUGE twist. Okiya is of course Bourbon answering vermouth's call. Sera has no idea that Bourbon was at the scene.

Then they somehow all go home. 800 is the start of a whole new clash
Spoiler: I am fangirling so hard
Darn, this is hardcore. TAht is all I can say.
That, and I think that Amuro is Bourbon. I mean, why else introduce him out of the blue so suddenly? There is Sera too, of course, but I think it's pretty obvious that she's Akai's sister.

Another reason, is because Amuro looks... so damn suspicious and evil. Like Gosho did with Sera when she was first introduced, he made her look very manly in her facial features, i.e. her chin being sharper, and etc. I think Gosho is doing this with Amuro. His eyes look smaller and evil like a villain's.
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Cider wrote:
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I think all of us believe that Vermouth definitely called one of them, right? What about the other two, whose are those calls?
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its quite simple . okya(akai) saw sera in the middle of the clash.
so he called her.
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Tried to stay away, but I just can't.
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It's funny that a car accident actually happened in this file... after sonoci drew one in one of her 4koma(s). xD
Speaking of the car accident, it appears that Urakawa's car hit Amuro's, who probably had cut her off, while Hakase's car is parked several feet away.
And... Vermouth's back! Finally.
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kuro_shiro wrote:
Cider wrote:
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I think all of us believe that Vermouth definitely called one of them, right? What about the other two, whose are those calls?
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its quite simple . okya(akai) saw sera in the middle of the clash.
so he called her.
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Call her in front of Agasa and Sherry?
After looking it more carefully. I feel Sera look like the one who being called. Base on Chek's deduction that she shouldn't know Amuro beforehand. She could not tapping someone.
What's (or who) Haibara looking?
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User 4869 wrote:
kuro_shiro wrote:
Cider wrote:
Spoiler:
I think all of us believe that Vermouth definitely called one of them, right? What about the other two, whose are those calls?
Spoiler:
its quite simple . okya(akai) saw sera in the middle of the clash.
so he called her.
Spoiler:
Call her in front of Agasa and Sherry?
After looking it more carefully. I feel Sera look like the one who being called. Base on Chek's deduction that she shouldn't know Amuro beforehand. She could not tapping someone.
What's (or who) Haibara looking?

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after careful scrutiny , it is clear that both sera and amuro recieved calls(image 1 page 2 panel 4&5)
on other hand , okiya notices something in image 1 page 2 panel 3. and drives along.
he could have noticed sera and amuro orvermouth(in side mirror of car)
chances of okiya noticing vermouth are too slim
in image 2 panel 3 , we have okiya with earphone and mic.it is clear that he doesn't have them in image 3 page 2 panel 2

so after noticing someting in image 1 okiya drives along and take out his earphone and mic ,for what?? to call someone he notices.
if we take sera=bourbon then okiya does not know amuro for sure.

if we take amuro=bourbon and sera = akai's sister.
then its possible that okiya recognised both bourbon and sera and he called sera to infirm her about amuro.
if okiya does not recognize amuro then he has called sera to ask her what is she doing there?
 
i have taken the assumption that okiya is akai not bourbon as otherwise okiya would have killed sherry and completed the mission a long time ago.
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If Amuro or Sera is Bourbon then why Haibara couldn't feel the BO sense? (Anw, I still think there's a huge possibility Okiya is Akai)

So Okiya is the first to touch the thing. Then he noticed something, then Amuro got phone, and the last is Sera.

About what Haibara is looking at, I think she simply looks at Conan and those who came rescue him. Some kind of curious.

And look! Amuro's eye turned evil??! I mean... He has black eye right? In Conan when somebody is frightenned or turn out to be evil, the black eye turn into this kind of eye, right? Meanwhile Sera's still normal. And we can't see Okiya's eyes :(
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