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shuu wrote:
So Chek, what is your deduction about who is Bourbon after 800's spoilers?
I would be so sad if it is Okiya
Same as before!
The main question I have now is what exactly is Amuro's allegiance. Is it to Vermouth or the Org? Her making some sort of promise with him is interesting. So far Amuro has been set up as a pretty nice guy barring not caring about Conan getting kidnapped right away, but that may just make a sudden snap all the more vicious my comparison.
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shuu wrote:
So Chek, what is your deduction about who is Bourbon after 800's spoilers?
I would be so sad if it is Okiya
Same as before!
Spoiler:
The main question I have now is what exactly is Amuro's allegiance. Is it to Vermouth or the Org? Her making some sort of promise with him is interesting. So far Amuro has been set up as a pretty nice guy barring not caring about Conan getting kidnapped right away, but that may just make a sudden snap all the more vicious my comparison.
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So those 2 are just eavesdropping? :-? But seems like Okiya caught a call first :-?
Conan324 wrote:
I really find it offensive that my posts are being deleted.
Those posts were about peeps posting spoilers without boxes, and I already had the image ready. No need to make further posts about it. It's sorted out now.
Aly_united wrote:
So, Jd- after this do you still..
Spoiler:
Insist that Amuro is Bourbon? My money is on Okyia
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I do indeed. I'm also sticking with Amuro/Bourbon not actually being a "bad" guy. He may be involved with our antagonists here, but I think he'll turn out to not be inherently evil or anything like that and maybe even protect Conan & company at some point.
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shuu wrote:
So those 2 are just eavesdropping? :-? But seems like Okiya caught a call first :-?
I'm not sure they are eavesdropping on Amuro. Sera hasn't run into Amuro yet, so how would she eavesdrop? Ditto with Okiya. I honestly have no idea. We'll need to see some action from them first. For Okiya, we have the possible accomplices who called the police in Raiha pass and Kir. Sera I am not sure about.
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I'm not sure they are eavesdropping on Amuro. Sera hasn't run into Amuro yet, so how would she eavesdrop? Ditto with Okiya. I honestly have no idea. We'll need to see some action from them first. For Okiya, we have the possible accomplices who called the police in Raiha pass and Kir. Sera I am not sure about.
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Well I just think that maybe Sera has been observing Amuro, maybe Okiya, too. And I agree, we need to see more actions from them
I'm not sure they are eavesdropping on Amuro. Sera hasn't run into Amuro yet, so how would she eavesdrop? Ditto with Okiya. I honestly have no idea. We'll need to see some action from them first. For Okiya, we have the possible accomplices who called the police in Raiha pass and Kir. Sera I am not sure about.
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
I'm not sure they are eavesdropping on Amuro. Sera hasn't run into Amuro yet, so how would she eavesdrop? Ditto with Okiya. I honestly have no idea. We'll need to see some action from them first. For Okiya, we have the possible accomplices who called the police in Raiha pass and Kir. Sera I am not sure about.
Her big-breasted mom ?
This could work.
And speaking of oh-duh, Okiya is reaching in his right breast pocket to get a gun with his left hand. I didn't notice because of the suit pattern. Do you think Amuro saw that because he was driving right behind or did the door block his vision completely? http://img45.imagehaven.net/img.php?id= ... HV_003.jpg
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And speaking of oh-duh, Okiya is reaching in his right breast pocket to get a gun with his left hand. I didn't notice because of the suit pattern. Do you think Amuro saw that because he was driving right behind or did the door block his vision completely? http://img45.imagehaven.net/img.php?id= ... HV_003.jpg
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Oh yeah, he IS reaching in his right breast pocket for something (I still think that a gun is so epic here =)) Agasa would be "What???! This student's got A GUN??? INSIDE HIS BREAST POCKET??!", and Haibara "AS I THOUGHT!!!! HE IS DANGEROUS!!!!"). I think Amuro can't see it, the door surely blocks his vision. So the chase is Sera's after Amuro's after Okiya's, all heading to Conan's, right? Is Kei's car driven or just staying at one place??
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Imagine him pulling the trigger with his left hand, whilst preparing some cream stew using his right, and additionally wearing his apron...
To the ending of ch. 800: This one is really tops the cliffhanger between 799 to 800. Bourbon's identity won't be known to the public officially again until 80x.
well regarding why Takayo (3rd person conan visited) may be the criminal might be because there was only beef rice in her trash, i assume she's dumping it to a combustible trash place. And what better way to get rid of a gun than throw it in a fire or dump it in a landfill. She probably asked them to take her trash to the bin to leave as little evidence as possible.
My reason for this is because there all beef rice, i mean it nice but after a while you'll get sick of it so i guess she bought a whole load of them emptied them all hid a gun in one of them and covered it up with a bag or something, no one will notice it in the whole pile of beef rice packaging.
Plus she's a writer so obviously there should be paper from where she has written things; her deadline is due as well so all the more likely for random pieces of paper she doesn't need in the bin.
This might be speculation but i think Conan might of spotted that there wasn't any pencil traces of her fingers, if she's stressed she probably wouldn't notice it on her and wouldn't rub it of. You can tell she used a pencil/pen on her works, because of a rubber you can see on her table you can be at least sure she's using a pencil.
And speaking of oh-duh, Okiya is reaching in his right breast pocket to get a gun with his left hand. I didn't notice because of the suit pattern. Do you think Amuro saw that because he was driving right behind or did the door block his vision completely? http://img45.imagehaven.net/img.php?id= ... HV_003.jpg
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I think the door blocked Amuro's vision very conveniently. Okiya is lucky he's got such a car, heh. Gosho probably put his car deliberately in front anyway.
Jd- wrote:
Aly_united wrote:
So, Jd- after this do you still..
Spoiler:
Insist that Amuro is Bourbon? My money is on Okyia
Spoiler:
I do indeed. I'm also sticking with Amuro/Bourbon not actually being a "bad" guy. He may be involved with our antagonists here, but I think he'll turn out to not be inherently evil or anything like that and maybe even protect Conan & company at some point.
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Well, he's either a decent good guy who just happens to hate Akai, or a sly manipulating psychopath. I'm actually hoping for the latter. We already got a Vermouth, and Gin is just a hit-and-run killer psychopath who doesn't appear all that often anymore. I want an antagonist who's really intelligent, crafty and damn dangerous, while holding up the "still waters run deep" idiom (i.e. him acting like a nice, funny guy). Would spice things up a bit.
Well, he's either a decent good guy who just happens to hate Akai, or a sly manipulating psychopath. I'm actually hoping for the latter. We already got a Vermouth, and Gin is just a hit-and-run killer psychopath who doesn't appear all that often anymore. I want an antagonist who's really intelligent, crafty and damn dangerous, while holding up the "still waters run deep" idiom (i.e. him acting like a nice, funny guy). Would spice things up a bit.
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I'm hoping for that, too. I'm glad someone else agrees that we don't need two Vermouth's. I hope that the conversation between him and Vermouth, and Gin's description of his personality doesn't indicate that he's the former.
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"Let's decide once and for all, Vermouth! No more hide-and-seek!!" - Conan Edogawa
