Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

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How will Shinichi/Conan return to Japan? (stolen from baka1412)

Illegal ways (Document Forgery, "back-routes", bribing the officers, hijacking the plane, etc)
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Using his connection with the FBI's to sneak him out of the country.
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Agasa miraculously creates a Teleportation machine.
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Haibara send him another batch of antidote(s) (post/directly)
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Haibara entrusted back-up medicine to Jodie / Yukiko / FBI / she somehow got trustful friend out there (the mysterious lady on last file)
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Extra Terrestrial creatures help.
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He never returned to Japan again...
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He never returned to Conan again...
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He swim all the way across to Japan by sea..
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"Home Alone" reference; as a conan, he's tagging any unsuspecting adults during the last minutes before the plane take off, pretending to be their child.
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Asking for Japanese embassy help, hoping to get deported back to Japan..
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He'd get help from that pro tennis player eventually (for solving the case).. I don't know how she would pull some string though...
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Unexplainable Time Skip, the case finished, and we're suddenly back to Beika City the next day without explanation..
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If Shinichi gets too involved in the case, he may wind up on the news. I don't know if the British reporters or police would be so willing to quash news of Shinichi's involvement since he doesn't have a relationship with them like he does with Tokyo Met. Shinichi may just keep his head down when solving the case so it isn't a problem, but considering his tendency to flagrantly showboat (Desperate Revival, I'm looking at you!), I'm a bit concerned.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: If Shinichi gets too involved in the case, he may wind up on the news. I don't know if the British reporters or police would be so willing to quash news of Shinichi's involvement since he doesn't have a relationship with them like he does with Tokyo Met. Shinichi may just keep his head down when solving the case so it isn't a problem, but considering his tendency to flagrantly showboat (Desperate Revival, I'm looking at you!), I'm a bit concerned.
He'd have to be abls to solve it within 24 hours first. And the British media wouldn't be as interested in him as the Japanese media. But they'd probably mention it if someone from Japan was involved.
It could become a problem, but I don't think it will happen.
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Dus wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: If Shinichi gets too involved in the case, he may wind up on the news. I don't know if the British reporters or police would be so willing to quash news of Shinichi's involvement since he doesn't have a relationship with them like he does with Tokyo Met. Shinichi may just keep his head down when solving the case so it isn't a problem, but considering his tendency to flagrantly showboat (Desperate Revival, I'm looking at you!), I'm a bit concerned.
He'd have to be abls to solve it within 24 hours first. And the British media wouldn't be as interested in him as the Japanese media. But they'd probably mention it if someone from Japan was involved.
It could become a problem, but I don't think it will happen.
I dunno. "Japanese Tourist Saves Thousands" seems like it'd be a pretty good headline.
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Akonyl wrote:
Dus wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: If Shinichi gets too involved in the case, he may wind up on the news. I don't know if the British reporters or police would be so willing to quash news of Shinichi's involvement since he doesn't have a relationship with them like he does with Tokyo Met. Shinichi may just keep his head down when solving the case so it isn't a problem, but considering his tendency to flagrantly showboat (Desperate Revival, I'm looking at you!), I'm a bit concerned.
He'd have to be abls to solve it within 24 hours first. And the British media wouldn't be as interested in him as the Japanese media. But they'd probably mention it if someone from Japan was involved.
It could become a problem, but I don't think it will happen.
I dunno. "Japanese Tourist Saves Thousands" seems like it'd be a pretty good headline.
Yeah but "Famous School Detective Shinichi Kudo Saves Thousands" doesn't sound nearly as good (because nobody would have any idea who that is)
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Dus wrote:
Akonyl wrote: I dunno. "Japanese Tourist Saves Thousands" seems like it'd be a pretty good headline.
Yeah but "Famous School Detective Shinichi Kudo Saves Thousands" doesn't sound nearly as good (because nobody would have any idea who that is)
His real name would probably be in the first sentence of the article though.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Dus wrote:
Akonyl wrote: I dunno. "Japanese Tourist Saves Thousands" seems like it'd be a pretty good headline.
Yeah but "Famous School Detective Shinichi Kudo Saves Thousands" doesn't sound nearly as good (because nobody would have any idea who that is)
His real name would probably be in the first sentence of the article though.
True. Anyway, I don't think he would be quite that stupid (but after the last three chapters, we can't be sure anymore).
He still has Agasa (and possibly his parents) to solve the case in his stead.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: He had a backpack, so I assume they were in there. I guess he left the backpack in the booth because he doesn't have it while chasing after Ran. I guess he didn't want her to recognize it.
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Yeah, he probably left his bacpack next to Ran's vanishing purse.  ;D

Actually, the clothes he's wearing when he pops out of the booth are the same he was wearing inside the plane. On top of that, they didn't stop anywhere after arriving, so he should still be carrying them. The weird thing is the fact that he had time to take the pill, grow and change clothes without anyone noticing a naked guy inside a booth, in the few seconds Ran spent stupidly shouting at him from an angle that blocked the view, instead of looking inside to see if it was actually him inside there, and not some other random japanese tourist. It looks really stupid, how she seems to be talking to the wall of the booth. And then while they're arguing she just happens to naturally quote Minerva Grass's words and then explain that she told her that. Completely ridiculous.

I mean, I have to be a huge fan (and I am) to still be interested after all this examples of poor storytelling. Thank god for the couple of great story arcs we got. This isn't going to be one of them.
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Well, apparently, Minerva (Athena) and Ares were enemies, according to a Wiki page. :\ But they're brother and sister here, so evidence of rivalry here.

Don't you think Diana is related to the Glasses?
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I suppose no one surprised about the "roaring clock"......
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Dashin wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: He had a backpack, so I assume they were in there. I guess he left the backpack in the booth because he doesn't have it while chasing after Ran. I guess he didn't want her to recognize it.
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Yeah, he probably left his bacpack next to Ran's vanishing purse.  ;D

Actually, the clothes he's wearing when he pops out of the booth are the same he was wearing inside the plane. On top of that, they didn't stop anywhere after arriving, so he should still be carrying them. The weird thing is the fact that he had time to take the pill, grow and change clothes without anyone noticing a naked guy inside a booth, in the few seconds Ran spent stupidly shouting at him from an angle that blocked the view, instead of looking inside to see if it was actually him inside there, and not some other random japanese tourist. It looks really stupid, how she seems to be talking to the wall of the booth. And then while they're arguing she just happens to naturally quote Minerva Grass's words and then explain that she told her that. Completely ridiculous.

I mean, I have to be a huge fan (and I am) to still be interested after all this examples of poor storytelling. Thank god for the couple of great story arcs we got. This isn't going to be one of them.
I actually feel the same way. It doesn't appear to flow very well. And it's very predictable... It's very expected. But of course, Detective Conan always has weird ways of keeping Conan's identity or keeping him alive when he's obviously made a dumb decision...such as the case with the robot...I was like WTF  ::)...In any normal circumstances, he would've been shot dead, but no, he had to be a robot....I forgot that case's name...but it was the case where Ran saved Haibara's life and Calvados was killed.

Possibly Agasa had the backpack, quickly gave it to Conan?  ???
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...he was not a robot.  Which DC are you watching, sora?
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Dus wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: If Shinichi gets too involved in the case, he may wind up on the news. I don't know if the British reporters or police would be so willing to quash news of Shinichi's involvement since he doesn't have a relationship with them like he does with Tokyo Met. Shinichi may just keep his head down when solving the case so it isn't a problem, but considering his tendency to flagrantly showboat (Desperate Revival, I'm looking at you!), I'm a bit concerned.
He'd have to be abls to solve it within 24 hours first. And the British media wouldn't be as interested in him as the Japanese media. But they'd probably mention it if someone from Japan was involved.
It could become a problem, but I don't think it will happen.
I think somehow people will know Kudo Shinichi. I mean, look at the woman who knows Sleeping
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Abs. wrote: ...he was not a robot.  Which DC are you watching, sora?
Then what the hell was it? Whatever the case, he escaped that case when the method was not only illogical but would really have never have happened with an average person. It was episode 345, and I know he escaped that too gracefully. ;D
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Bamboo wrote: Well, apparently, Minerva (Athena) and Ares were enemies, according to a Wiki page. :\ But they're brother and sister here, so evidence of rivalry here.

Don't you think Diana is related to the Glasses?
Nope, not Ares and Minerva are brother and sister here. It's Apollo and Minerva. Ares is the friend.
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GinRei wrote:
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RedPoppy wrote: I know that a lot of people would like to see her in London Case, but I'm sure she won't EVER take a risk and just go as Shiho to London, just because she knows Conan would do something stupid.
You're talking about someone who broke out from a room, called taxi (did she pay him?), and ran desperately into enemy territory to save him. Doesn't seem that far-fetched that she'd come London although I agree I doubt that mystery women is her.
She also knew for a fact that his life was in danger.  This time, it isn't.  He's just being an idiot and is going to get stuck in London for a while, so don't see why she'd risk their lives and safety for that.
And yet somehow he has to keep his identity. Only two things can happen 1) He confesses he is Shinichi. But then things will get pretty boring between Ran and Shinichi. Especially if they confess to one another. Look at Takagi and Sato...no action so far. Ran's role will decrease within the story. Gosho could be going this route and just ending the whole romantic tragedy deal. 2) He gets the pill. And the only one who could make that pill would be Ai Haibara. If she doesn't make it to London, he will be stuck there. Unless, she sends it to him, but that's risky to send by mail, and it also could take days to reach him. If he wants to cover his identity, someone is going to have to give him the antidote.
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