*SPOILER FREE* Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 856-858

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

...Also the culprit didn't paint the ground with red paint. Wouldn't forensics notice the fake death didn't add up once they tried to verify Rumi's "scheme"? Then there are the contradictions Conan pointed out. The whole thing seems favor story (Conan gets to beat Sera again) over logic.

Adding red paint to the bathroom floor would instantaneously give away that the culprit isn't who the culprit is trying to frame for the crime.

How does that work? Settsu wanted to make it look like Rumi got to the bathroom first, posed as the corpse including blood, and then killed the real one once Ran fell unconscious. The red paint in the tub drain was to make it look like fake blood was used. However, if there were no traces of paint on the ground where the body was, then Rumi would be exonerated because Ran would say she saw blood, but there were no paint traces there as evidence for Rumi's trick. Then Rumi could say she had been framed...

If I was Rumi, and I killed Waka in the same manner as how Settsu played the scene in his head, I wouldn't put red paint on the ground with the same reason you gave. Ran's possible statement will only be in favor to my plans. I'm saying that it's a "give away", because the paint is a bold sign saying, "Hey! I killed her!" which is odd for a criminal planning to escape using this trick.

I assumed though that it would be cleaned up afterwards, leaving some traces that forensics would hopefully overlook under the blood. That would explain why paint was in the drain - like it was cleaned up. You wouldn't just leave all of it there on the ground.

[Ringo]

...Also the culprit didn't paint the ground with red paint. Wouldn't forensics notice the fake death didn't add up once they tried to verify Rumi's "scheme"? Then there are the contradictions Conan pointed out. The whole thing seems favor story (Conan gets to beat Sera again) over logic.

Adding red paint to the bathroom floor would instantaneously give away that the culprit isn't who the culprit is trying to frame for the crime.

How does that work? Settsu wanted to make it look like Rumi got to the bathroom first, posed as the corpse including blood, and then killed the real one once Ran fell unconscious. The red paint in the tub drain was to make it look like fake blood was used. However, if there were no traces of paint on the ground where the body was, then Rumi would be exonerated because Ran would say she saw blood, but there were no paint traces there as evidence for Rumi's trick. Then Rumi could say she had been framed...

If I was Rumi, and I killed Waka in the same manner as how Settsu played the scene in his head, I wouldn't put red paint on the ground with the same reason you gave. Ran's possible statement will only be in favor to my plans. I'm saying that it's a "give away", because the paint is a bold sign saying, "Hey! I killed her!" which is odd for a criminal planning to escape using this trick.

I assumed though that it would be cleaned up afterwards, leaving some traces that forensics would hopefully overlook under the blood. That would explain why paint was in the drain - like it was cleaned up. You wouldn't just leave all of it there on the ground.

I get you now, Chekhov. I totally overlooked the wiping-it-up part. Thanks for clearing that one up. (:

[Akonyl]

so was Sera just straight up looking at Conan using the bowtie at the top of page 9?

and that last page kind of makes me wonder if she fell for Vermouth and is now accidentally a mole for her for Conan-related info.