Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 936–938

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ouuuu interesting stuff from SDB 80+

Q42: Is there anything the perfect human Akai is bad at?
A: He's tone deaf (laughs)

Q69: Please tell me if there is anything surprising about Akai, Amuro, and Sera!
A: They're all tone deaf, or something (laughs)
[Later on, someone clarifies that the original says オンチ in both cases, which in that context can mean anything from being tone deaf, or completely hopeless with directions. Gosho never used kanji to write that word, so it could mean that they're all horrible at something.]

I wonder whether Gosho actually means "tone deaf" or just the "horrible at something"
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Well, they're not all horrible at playing guitar, that's for sure now :P
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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
TanteiSa wrote: And Amuro might not be pretending. I mean the chances of remembering someone you saw for a few seconds in a train station 4 years ago are quite slim.
Amuro saw Masumi and seemed to recognize her at Detective's Nocturne
After that he approached her dressed as Scar Akai to test her to see if she knew about Akai

Oh, i forgot about that ._.
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He looks awesome.
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Scotch's eyes make him look like Komei to me :))
Met DC by chance then about 3 hours later it scared the sh*t out of me in Spring 2001 and I ran for my life.
But boredom made me come to it once again in Winter 2004.

And I fell for it. Ever since then. Though sometimes it still frightens me like the first time :)
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Translations by Presumenothing

#937 p4 last frame Megure "It's them again... the cafe detective, the female high school detective, and the elementary schooler pretending to be a detective..." Takagi "Aren't there too many detectives? In this town..."

#937 p9-10 (Sera sees someone with a guitar case) Ran "What is it? Sera-chan..." Sonoko "Are those people strange?" Sera "Ah, no... people carrying guitar cases remind me of..." "4 years ago... standing on the opposite platform..." "Shuu-nii, carrying a guitar case!!" Conan (thinking) "Shuu-nii, that means this person is really Akai's younger sister?" Sera "It really surprised me... I thought he'd gone to America... and I'd never seen Shuu-nii play music..."

#937 p10 Sera "Actually I was already a middle schooler, I did bring money and I knew how to go home... but to Shuu-nii, I was still just a little kid..."

#937 p11-2 Sonoko (about Scotch) "Did you ask what his name was?" Sera "No... I didn't ask... but while we were on the platform another man came and called him this..." "Scotch..." Conan "........" Ran "A-a foreigner?" Sera "No matter how I looked at him, he was Japanese... it should've been a nickname?"

#937 p12 Sera "But... the man who called him that..." "Though his face wasn't clearly visible under the hat..." "I keep feeling there's a resemblance..." "To Amuro-san... you resemble him!!" Amuro "You've got the wrong person..." "More than those past happenings, let's first resolve the matter at hand... you're a detective too aren't you?" Sera "Yeah..." "I am..."
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Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...
But one of those pics is akai you can clearly see from the eyes. Not sure if I understand these pics.
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"Conan (thinking) "Shuu-nii, that means this person is really Akai's younger sister?"


Seriouly,Akai never told Conan that Masumi was his sister???
On a side note,Scotch is cute,I thought he would be older than Akai and Amuro.It's a shame he's dead(or supposed to be dead)
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k11chi wrote:
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Oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...
But one of those pics is akai you can clearly see from the eyes. Not sure if I understand these pics.
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First pic is Masumi and Scotch. Second is Masumi seeing Shuichi/Dai and Scotch from across the platform. Third is Shuichi/Dai going to buy tickets (I think) for Masumi, and leaving her alone with Scotch. Fourth is Shuichi/Dai scolding Masumi.
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Seriouly,Akai never told Conan that Masumi was his sister???
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Are you really surprised, at this point?

I think this is the first time he's even thought about her, in those terms, directly calling her Shuichi's sister. Other times, it's not addressed, or it's indirect.
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AICHAN wrote:
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"Conan (thinking) "Shuu-nii, that means this person is really Akai's younger sister?"


Seriouly,Akai never told Conan that Masumi was his sister???
On a side note,Scotch is cute,I thought he would be older than Akai and Amuro.It's a shame he's dead(or supposed to be dead)
He's not obliged to do that to everyone he meets..
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k11chi wrote:
AICHAN wrote:
Spoiler:
"Conan (thinking) "Shuu-nii, that means this person is really Akai's younger sister?"


Seriouly,Akai never told Conan that Masumi was his sister???
On a side note,Scotch is cute,I thought he would be older than Akai and Amuro.It's a shame he's dead(or supposed to be dead)
He's not obliged to do that to everyone he meets..
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Conan isn't everyone...he's his ally,someone he would normally trust,I mean he helped Akai to fake his death and to hide his identity from everyone.I though he would tell him that the girl who is always with Ran is his sister...(it would be a way for Akai to keep an eye on his sister when he's not around)
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AICHAN wrote:
k11chi wrote:
AICHAN wrote:
Spoiler:
"Conan (thinking) "Shuu-nii, that means this person is really Akai's younger sister?"


Seriouly,Akai never told Conan that Masumi was his sister???
On a side note,Scotch is cute,I thought he would be older than Akai and Amuro.It's a shame he's dead(or supposed to be dead)
He's not obliged to do that to everyone he meets..
Spoiler:
Conan isn't everyone...he's his ally,someone he would normally trust,I mean he helped Akai to fake his death and to hide his identity from everyone.I though he would tell him that the girl who is always with Ran is his sister...(it would be a way for Akai to keep an eye on his sister when he's not around)
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It's not like they're best friends or anything. I don't think it's something Conan needs to know or care about. Akai would feel more comfortable knowing that Masumi can get friends without connections despite her personality anyways...
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AICHAN wrote:
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Conan isn't everyone...he's his ally,someone he would normally trust,I mean he helped Akai to fake his death and to hide his identity from everyone.I though he would tell him that the girl who is always with Ran is his sister...(it would be a way for Akai to keep an eye on his sister when he's not around)
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But Shinichi/Conan already spends quite a bit of time with Masumi—especially with his interest in MG. Shuichi/Subaru doesn't really need to ask.

When you think about it, Masumi being Shuichi's sister was never really in doubt—even Gosho, himself, essentially said (not through interviews, of course), through the manga that she was his sister. There was no mystery about it. Neither Shinichi/Conan or Ran even thought once about her eyes, which is the physical characteristic that is the most obviously connected to Shuichi, and a characteristic they'd recognize easily.

It's classic post-Clash-of-Red-and-Black secrecy—it'll probably take until all the current Akai family/Bourbon/Scotch questions are resolved, or these will be resolved parallel to Shiho/Ai getting back in the loop. Once all that is achieved, this secrecy should stop.

If one considers Masumi's introduction to be the beginning of an Akai family arc (or "Rye" arc, to stay with arcs being named after codenamed BO members, former or otherwise), then its been going on for 170 Files (768–937). The Bourbon arc lasted 276 Files (622–897). So between the next case and the case happening 106 Files from now (941 (Assuming next case is 3 Files)–1043), we may finally get a resolution with all these questions about the Akai family. Hopefully, Bourbon and Scotch will follow suit, and we can hit File 1000 with complete focus on Rum.
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
“Education never ends... it is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.”
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"I have decided to stick to love... hate is too great a burden to bear."
— Martin Luther King Jr. (A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King, Jr)
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Looking at the actual case, I tried cutting out 16 images to look at
(not sure if I'm allowed to post that much of a case, but I guess I'll be told to delete it if so)
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So the Long Haired Woman (Kibune Someka) has a tear in her jacket
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The Black Hat Woman (Fuekawa Tadako) has fingernail clippers and gives them to the Glasses Woman (Kogure Rumi)
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Tadako mentions that she brought a sewing kit, but she left it in the studio room where the Snow Hat Woman (Yamaji Hazae) has gone to nap
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Someka gives her jacket to Tadako in order for her to fix it.
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After a cut away to Masumi and Amuro, we hear a woman scream and they all rush in to find
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Conan points out that they should be able to see who did it on the security camera.
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but the band members had set up a selfie stick camera to record themselves playing
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Supposedly, this must be Tadako on camera fixing Someka's jacket button with her sewing kit, because it is fixed by the time the body is found
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I'm only guessing, but I'd assume that Takagi is pointing out that the reason the curtain was closed was because the murder could have been caught in the reflection.
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Someka also entered the room. I really can't tell what she is doing because the image looks really blurry to me
However she mentions that when she entered the room she saw Hazae with her head down and arms crossed
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Rumi also entered the room and can be seen moving the keyboard piano around
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Rumi shows Conan her cellphone picture of the band playing and it sparks as something really important
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The three detectives have figured it out?
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