Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 925-927

[k11chi]

Several months is enough time to begin with anyway. There are series without supposed CBT where the characters turn from bad to good in 30 minutes to couple of hours. Some authors just don't understand the passing of time, but since development in Conan is very slow, well, it just doesn't have those kind of problems. There are cases where days and weeks are stated to have just passed by until anything happens.

[unclesporkums]

Spoiler:

I see the next file, haibara ignoring Yoko, or glaring at here from time to time, I think it will be awesome, waiting happily for next file

Or maybe something like this:


Yoko: "And then I'm going to post "In A Relationship with.. Higo" on Facebook!
Ai: Noooo!

[DCUniverseAficionado]

Spoiler:

I see the next file, haibara ignoring Yoko, or glaring at here from time to time, I think it will be awesome, waiting happily for next file

Or maybe something like this:


Yoko: "And then I'm going to post "In A Relationship with.. Higo" on Facebook!
Ai: Noooo!

Spoiler:

I suppose we'll have to wait until later today or tomorrow for the next file.

The waitress looks suspicious—first, she spills something; then, she disappears down into the cellar for a while; finally, she's the one who notices the sleeping boss (or is it something else?).

I wonder about the phone trick used to get Ryusuke and Yoko down to the cellar. The 10 minute wait must have something to do with it, and so should the smell of smoke Kogoro noticed in the bathroom.

And let it be known—presumenothing translated the file, and said that the waitress is the boss' girlfriend, not his daughter. All the more reason for her to be the primary suspect.

[Serinox]

I suppose we'll have to wait until later today or tomorrow for the next file.

We usually get the chinese raws on mondays, last week was an exception because monday was a holiday in Japan; so you shouldn't expect anything today or tomorrow

[wrd]

I just wanted to point something out regarding this file, I don't know if you guys noticed it or not...

Spoiler:

The waitress in this case.. isn't she the same girl that has appeared in ch 799 ?



Same face, same age...with a different identity

[David mason]

Spoiler:

Let's just hope that it isn't a misunderstanding so kogoro will forget about her and move on with eri

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

Spoiler:

I get the feeling that the Sommelier is the killer.

He says the owner left to purchase wine.

((I'm betting that the waitress knocked over the wine glass on purpose because she is a Higo fan as well ))

He tells the other two where to check the first time they look for the owner
--sends Banba the waitress to the store room, this puts her in the store room to "confirm" the lack of a body there
--goes with Konoe to the Staff Room, this was to show that there was't anyone sleeping on the couch either

Had an argument with the owner, the night before, about the purchasing of expensive wines
which leads to the plausibility of the owner going to purchase wines himself, as well as giving reason
for the owner to not be present / be missing.

The second time they go looking, he says that the restroom needs to be checked as well, meaning that all three people will be split into
separate rooms. During this check, he is the one that goes to the store room, where the body is later found, alone.
While the waitress, Banba, was the one to discover the pile on the couch and say that it is the owner sleeping,
there was time between the first and second search, in which all three suspects had time to set that up.

((I'm betting the smell of smoke in the restroom is the waiter Konoe burning a photo of his ex-girlfriend ))

Then the sommelier is the person to note that 10 minutes has passed and goes straight to the staff room where
the couch is, which gives him a possible alibi since he is the farthest away from the body, while sending a text
from the already deceased owner's phone to lead the the waiters to send Yoko and Higo down to the storage room
to discover the body.

however, since there are a lot of unknowns about the things in the storage room, as well as the lump on the couch
we will have to wait for the next chapter to see how wrong I am

I bet Mouri will say that Higo is a suspect.

[DCUniverseAficionado]

I suppose we'll have to wait until later today or tomorrow for the next file.

We usually get the chinese raws on mondays, last week was an exception because monday was a holiday in Japan; so you shouldn't expect anything today or tomorrow

Ah... thanks for the info.

Spoiler:

I get the feeling that the Sommelier is the killer.

He says the owner left to purchase wine.

((I'm betting that the waitress knocked over the wine glass on purpose because she is a Higo fan as well ))

He tells the other two where to check the first time they look for the owner
--sends Banba the waitress to the store room, this puts her in the store room to "confirm" the lack of a body there
--goes with Konoe to the Staff Room, this was to show that there was't anyone sleeping on the couch either

Had an argument with the owner, the night before, about the purchasing of expensive wines
which leads to the plausibility of the owner going to purchase wines himself, as well as giving reason
for the owner to not be present / be missing.

The second time they go looking, he says that the restroom needs to be checked as well, meaning that all three people will be split into
separate rooms. During this check, he is the one that goes to the store room, where the body is later found, alone.
While the waitress, Banba, was the one to discover the pile on the couch and say that it is the owner sleeping,
there was time between the first and second search, in which all three suspects had time to set that up.

((I'm betting the smell of smoke in the restroom is the waiter Konoe burning a photo of his ex-girlfriend ))

Then the sommelier is the person to note that 10 minutes has passed and goes straight to the staff room where
the couch is, which gives him a possible alibi since he is the farthest away from the body, while sending a text
from the already deceased owner's phone to lead the the waiters to send Yoko and Higo down to the storage room
to discover the body.

however, since there are a lot of unknowns about the things in the storage room, as well as the lump on the couch
we will have to wait for the next chapter to see how wrong I am

I bet Mouri will say that Higo is a suspect.

Spoiler:

I wonder how Kogoro will find a way accuse Ryusuke of the murder... We could very well see Sleeping Kogoro for the first time since Volume 81, Files 859–861. That's probably the longest drought for a while, if not ever.

Her reason for knocking the glass over could be because she's a fan of his, but, whether she did so for that reason or not has yet to be revealed... she definitely did it on purpose, though.

Her presence in the cellar definitely relates to the murder—either she was doing something down there, or one of the other two intended to use her to hide their trick.

We don't know when the waiter and waitress broke up... if it was very recently, then it could be him burning the picture, and may show that this was a crime of passion on his part.

Whatever happened with the victim's phone will play a role—the trick involved the culprit using the victim's phone to text the waiter.

Given the relationship between the waitress and the waiter, the culprit's motive has a higher chance of being related to revenge on being personally betrayed/wounded due to the victim, in terms of romance, rather than the sommelier murdering his boss over a past crime against him, or a friend/family member of his. (2 suspects that were once boyfriend and girlfriend vs 1 suspect who may have a reason to murder his boss that is unrelated to their argument that he mentioned)

Since this case is probably going to be 3 files long, enough of the puzzle should slide into place by the end of File 926. Until then, we can only guess.

[Nemomon]

Spoiler:

I bet Mouri will say that Higo is a suspect.

A good detective doesn't rule out anybody . He might say that to force the real culprit to lower their guard .

[wrd]

Spoiler:

I get the feeling that the Sommelier is the killer.

He says the owner left to purchase wine.

((I'm betting that the waitress knocked over the wine glass on purpose because she is a Higo fan as well ))

He tells the other two where to check the first time they look for the owner
--sends Banba the waitress to the store room, this puts her in the store room to "confirm" the lack of a body there
--goes with Konoe to the Staff Room, this was to show that there was't anyone sleeping on the couch either

Had an argument with the owner, the night before, about the purchasing of expensive wines
which leads to the plausibility of the owner going to purchase wines himself, as well as giving reason
for the owner to not be present / be missing.

The second time they go looking, he says that the restroom needs to be checked as well, meaning that all three people will be split into
separate rooms. During this check, he is the one that goes to the store room, where the body is later found, alone.
While the waitress, Banba, was the one to discover the pile on the couch and say that it is the owner sleeping,
there was time between the first and second search, in which all three suspects had time to set that up.

((I'm betting the smell of smoke in the restroom is the waiter Konoe burning a photo of his ex-girlfriend ))

Then the sommelier is the person to note that 10 minutes has passed and goes straight to the staff room where
the couch is, which gives him a possible alibi since he is the farthest away from the body, while sending a text
from the already deceased owner's phone to lead the the waiters to send Yoko and Higo down to the storage room
to discover the body.

however, since there are a lot of unknowns about the things in the storage room, as well as the lump on the couch
we will have to wait for the next chapter to see how wrong I am

I bet Mouri will say that Higo is a suspect.

Spoiler:

I'm assuming the same...

He somehow totally controlled the search

And I think he set up the 10mn as a timing for something to be activated/disactivated...After all, he was supposed to wake Asuka up the moment they have found him, seeing how his guests have waited enough.

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

Spoiler:

I get the feeling that the Sommelier is the killer.

He says the owner left to purchase wine.

((I'm betting that the waitress knocked over the wine glass on purpose because she is a Higo fan as well ))

He tells the other two where to check the first time they look for the owner
--sends Banba the waitress to the store room, this puts her in the store room to "confirm" the lack of a body there
--goes with Konoe to the Staff Room, this was to show that there was't anyone sleeping on the couch either

Had an argument with the owner, the night before, about the purchasing of expensive wines
which leads to the plausibility of the owner going to purchase wines himself, as well as giving reason
for the owner to not be present / be missing.

The second time they go looking, he says that the restroom needs to be checked as well, meaning that all three people will be split into
separate rooms. During this check, he is the one that goes to the store room, where the body is later found, alone.
While the waitress, Banba, was the one to discover the pile on the couch and say that it is the owner sleeping,
there was time between the first and second search, in which all three suspects had time to set that up.

((I'm betting the smell of smoke in the restroom is the waiter Konoe burning a photo of his ex-girlfriend ))

Then the sommelier is the person to note that 10 minutes has passed and goes straight to the staff room where
the couch is, which gives him a possible alibi since he is the farthest away from the body, while sending a text
from the already deceased owner's phone to lead the the waiters to send Yoko and Higo down to the storage room
to discover the body.

however, since there are a lot of unknowns about the things in the storage room, as well as the lump on the couch
we will have to wait for the next chapter to see how wrong I am

I bet Mouri will say that Higo is a suspect.

Spoiler:

I wonder how Kogoro will find a way accuse Ryusuke of the murder... We could very well see Sleeping Kogoro for the first time since Volume 81, Files 859–861. That's probably the longest drought for a while, if not ever.

Her reason for knocking the glass over could be because she's a fan of his, but, whether she did so for that reason or not has yet to be revealed... she definitely did it on purpose, though.

Her presence in the cellar definitely relates to the murder—either she was doing something down there, or one of the other two intended to use her to hide their trick.

We don't know when the waiter and waitress broke up... if it was very recently, then it could be him burning the picture, and may show that this was a crime of passion on his part.

Whatever happened with the victim's phone will play a role—the trick involved the culprit using the victim's phone to text the waiter.

Given the relationship between the waitress and the waiter, the culprit's motive has a higher chance of being related to revenge on being personally betrayed/wounded due to the victim, in terms of romance, rather than the sommelier murdering his boss over a past crime against him, or a friend/family member of his. (2 suspects that were once boyfriend and girlfriend vs 1 suspect who may have a reason to murder his boss that is unrelated to their argument that he mentioned)

Since this case is probably going to be 3 files long, enough of the puzzle should slide into place by the end of File 926. Until then, we can only guess.

Spoiler:

For me, the waitress seems unlikely as a suspect completely. The sommelier completely controlled where everyone went when they searched. If she had tried to do something in the storeroom the time that she went down there, it would have the chance of being discovered when the sommelier went down there during the second search. As for her presence in the staff room during the time that the pile on the couch appeared, that seems really coincidental. The Sommelier added that the restroom needed to be searched, and she seemed to respond that she would go search there, but the waiter interrupted and said that he would search the restroom, leaving her as the person to search the staff room. If the Sommelier had not added that the restroom needed to be searched, there is the possibility that two people would have been searching the same room.

For the sommelier, I want to say that since he set the time period and was the one to say when it ended, that if any timing trick was used, he was the one presumably doing it.

Also, during the first search when he and the waiter searched the staff room, we see the couch for the first time. The blanket is already on the couch, but it doesn't look like its laying completely flat. What if there is something under the blanket that he could inflate and by making sure that he is the one who went to the staff room to "wake" the pile on the couch he could deflate / pop what ever it is and discard it or hide it?


However....... in argument for the waitress, I want to throw these in
Well if the waitress was the killer, and had killed the owner before the others arrived to the restaurant, maybe she noticed a blood stain on her sleeve from killing the owner and splashed the wine on herself to cover the stain??
During the scene where the text from the owner's phone comes in (were we see the phone sound effect), the waitress is conveniently out of frame, while we can see the sommelier is opening a door.

[Kahomi]

It's quite irrelevant, and I don't know why, but I want to see Subaru's reaction as seeing Haibara like this )

[sherry26]

It's quite irrelevant, and I don't know why, but I want to see Subaru's reaction as seeing Haibara like this )

LOL same here

[megamind1988]

who the killer will be? the waitress? the sommelier? or the waiter?

[AICHAN]

It's quite irrelevant, and I don't know why, but I want to see Subaru's reaction as seeing Haibara like this )

LOL same here

LOL yeah,that would be funny^^