Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 903-905: Poolside Case (New rules, please read!)

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ThatLee4 wrote:I dontt hate Sera and the mystery girl and the middle brother and the shogi stuff. I just fond it unnessacary.

It drags out the story on something boring and neglects more important and exciting stuff. Also making Conan look less intrested with no Kir contact, and not even trying to talk to the mystery girl in the last case.

Action seems to be turnt off. Like one of the best moments of risk was when him and Ai found Gin's car and went proactivly investigating. That is how it should be (with Kir and Bourbon i might add) leading to danger of Conan hiding from them in the locker. Classic.

Maybe Conan should hang out with Heiji more to be more straight forward and risky to get more done. Rather than Akai who is so slow and secretive.

But i know Gosho wont mess it up.

My main gripe is that Sera was requested by the editor, due to a character thr fans liked. But she is not even as good as that character. And i feel she messes with Gosho's orginal plot as she is an add on. Bring back the Ai focus i say.

I agree with everything you said,except for the part about Heiji and Akai comparison.
I think Heiji shouldn't be included in the fight against the BO for now,he's just like Shinichi and doesn't add anything,while Akai has a BO experience and has knowledge that Conan doesn't have(sniping,driving,fighting,hacking...),so he's complementary with Conan.I just don't like when he follows Conan's plan instead of being the one who elaborate them.

Anyway concerning the whole Sera family arc,I agree with you.Actually I'm only interested on her because she's Akai sister.I hope that the mystery girl is a victim of APTX,so that Haibara could finally get some spotlight,and be more active than she is now(I'm tired with her being the DB's babysitter)
And of course we need some Ai/Okiya moments,or else what's the point of Akai staying in Shinichi's house?

there are so many mysteries that we need to solve(Amuro/Elena relationship,Itakura's program,the whole Miyano family story,Gin/Sherry relationship,Vermouth story...),but Gosho keeps adding new characters and mysteries.I really hope it will be useful to the BO plot.


As for Kir,Gosho completly ruined this character,now her role is limited to sending messages to the FBI ::)
I miss the old good BO cases,when Conan and Ai were alone to fight Gin,when there was much more suspense and danger.Now it seems like Conan have super powers and is untouchable.
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Ha Ai Chan i like how you think. We are on the same page. Apart from me with Akai. As im the only person who does not like him. I think he is too coy. And im still hoping his a bad guy. But yes the points you said about him are true.

I was not sayiny that Heiji should be involved in taking down the BO more. As i agree h e should not. But Conan should habg out with him more on other cases and discuss things about the Bo and taking them bout. As think Heiji has the most urgency for justice in DC and this should rub off onto Shinich rather than Akai's long game subtle approch of hiding and not usin Kir. Hopefully Rei will step in with teaming up with Conan limitedly which i think will have a better dynamic than Akia abd i think Rei will not just blindly follow Conan.

But ultimatly im hoping most action comes from Conan and Ai working together with his gadgets and tactical plans and traps etc.
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AICHAN wrote: I miss the old good BO cases,when Conan and Ai were alone to fight Gin,when there was much more suspense and danger.Now it seems like Conan have super powers and is untouchable.
I couldn’t agree more!
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ALAKTORN wrote:
AICHAN wrote: I miss the old good BO cases,when Conan and Ai were alone to fight Gin,when there was much more suspense and danger.Now it seems like Conan have super powers and is untouchable.
I couldn’t agree more!
If only Gosho could hear us...
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Since in the lastest chapter we seen the mystery girl in front of Ran, I think we can only hope that after the break we finally will receive some answers.

I personally quite do like the MG. I like malicious characters, and she's kinda malicious and bossy. I don't mind Sera too, though I'm not her big fan. It is funny how she stalks Conan.

I'm not really a fan of Kir, and I don't think I would cry if she died. If she would get more time screen, then I would have time to learn how to like her. But she appeared then disappeared, and that's all. Eisuke (who I do like, and I want him back) had more screen time than Kir.

I kinda agree that Akai's role now has been limited to follow Conan's plans... Kinda sad. Neither woman was able to tame Akai, and them a small child Conan was able to do what the women could not..

I want Heiji back. He - despite how unprofessional he is - could help a lot Conan in fighting. Too bad Akai probably would not trust him. But at least we would get some funny scenes.
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I also lik the mystery girl,she reminds me of Ai in many ways,and if she's a shrunked adult then I'll be happy.

Concerning Eisuke,well I'm glad he disappeared,but it's sad we didn't have enough Eisuke/Rena interactions.
Neither woman was able to tame Akai, and them a small child Conan was able to do what the women could not..
LOL that's so true(that would explain why there are so many ConanxAkai fanarts :-X )
I guess only a Sherlockian can tame another Sherlockian XDXD
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I want Eisuke back, because the moments when Conan was jealous when Eisuke tried get help from Ran were trully funny. Conan generally is quite funny when someone tries to touch Ran or look at her breast. With Eisuke perhaps we would get some funny moments too.

Plus, as of now he's one of the other guys that knows Conan identity and is not Agasa team nor Heiji (who's far away from any plot). It would be nice to have around someone other that knows that.

I wonder... maybe at the end of the series Shinichi will decide to dump Ran and ignore Ai, and start dating Akai ;).
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AICHAN wrote: .I hope that the mystery girl is a victim of APTX,so that Haibara could finally get some spotlight,and be more active than she is now(I'm tired with her being the DB's babysitter)
And of course we need some Ai/Okiya moments,or else what's the point of Akai staying in Shinichi's house?
yes I completely agree with you. I am also waiting for some more ai/okiya moments. it will be more interesting if ai finds out okiya's true identity.
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Nemomon wrote: I wonder... maybe at the end of the series Shinichi will decide to dump Ran and ignore Ai, and start dating Akai ;).
LOL that would be funny,I approve this pairing ;D
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AICHAN wrote: .I hope that the mystery girl is a victim of APTX,so that Haibara could finally get some spotlight,and be more active than she is now(I'm tired with her being the DB's babysitter)
And of course we need some Ai/Okiya moments,or else what's the point of Akai staying in Shinichi's house?
yes I completely agree with you. I am also waiting for some more ai/okiya moments. it will be more interesting if ai finds out okiya's true identity.
I hope Ai will investigate on Okiya in the future files,now I wonder what she thinks about him,and if she still thinks he's Dai...
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When Haibara first seen Masumi in Mystery Train, she had a bad feeling about Masumi, what if Haibara know Shukichi is Masumi's middle brother (?), like new series Masumi called Shukichi "kichi-nii" in front of Conan and Haibara, will Haibara think Shukichi could be related to Black Organization.
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Haibara's bad feeling come from Scar Akai outside the room
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Conan 48:69 wrote:When Haibara first seen Masumi in Mystery Train, she had a bad feeling about Masumi, what if Haibara know Shukichi is Masumi's middle brother (?), like new series Masumi called Shukichi "kichi-nii" in front of Conan and Haibara, will Haibara think Shukichi could be related to Black Organization.
Haibara had a bad feeling because, like Conan, she's paranoid. Which was stupid because she didn't feel any aura from Sera. Looks like Haibara doesn't actually trust her black org detector thing...
User 4869 wrote:Haibara's bad feeling come from Scar Akai outside the room
I think she wasn't feeling well either because Sera somehow approached her in a weird way saying "I'd like to talk to you", though I don't really remember if she was that concerned about Sera ?
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Incomplete-tantei wrote:
User 4869 wrote:Haibara's bad feeling come from Scar Akai outside the room
I think she wasn't feeling well either because Sera somehow approached her in a weird way saying "I'd like to talk to you", though I don't really remember if she was that concerned about Sera ?
Vermouth was behind the door at that moment,so probably the BO scent came from her,not from Sera.
After the mystery train Ai never talked about Sera,so I guess she didn't feel anything bad from her,she's just being cautious.
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I really hope this childhood links have some plot value, instead of being drama for drama's sake...
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Korvo wrote:I really hope this childhood links have some plot value, instead of being drama for drama's sake...
I think it does, maybe that means that the secret of Conan is in danger again, but this time is worst than ever, because if Ran begins to suspect again it's going to be harder for Conan to escape, if Ran can remembers the facts that Sera just called wizard to Shinichi, then when Sera thanks Conan and he replies "It wasn't me, it was Shinichi ni-chan", Ran recognizes the mistery girl and if Ran remembers who she is (and if its right that she has shrunk) adding the fact of how Hattori calls him (accidentaly) Kudo, might make her think "I'm not the only one who suspects, there's another people too, and there is another person in that situation" and finally we have to add the fact that he saw her naked recently (the red woman case) and his reaction wasn't the reaction of a normal child.

Summarizing, maybe he is really going to be busted this time because every time Ran suspects again, he has to think harder ways to fool her again and if it stills like that, his aliby of being with Shinichi at school festival is going to be weaker, and this time Ran has a person who can help her to discover that (but I don't think Sera is going to do that, at least not consciously, maybe if she stills calling him wizard or giving him clues that she (Sera) knows who he is while Ran is suspecting)
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