[768-770] Jeet Kune Do: Sera's Identity Speculation Thread

[Katty008]

Since we didn't see much plot for a long time anyway, I would say even conan's importance fell down to the bottom of the sea :V

Spoiler:

CONAN IS A FISH.

(And suddenly Kaito is really not interested in Chibi-tantei.)

[KnightusMaximus]

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the "new" character is actually Hoshino Terumi, the actress from "The Idol Stars' Secret" arc (Manga Volume 32 chapter 5-7, Anime episodes 249-250).
- Terumi was present at a previous case, so she knows Conan by name
- In that case she also met Ran, so she would be concerned with her safety
- Terumi's has an interest in solving cases (and is quite capable of it from her arc)
- Moreover, her interest in cases is inspired by Shinichi and she has a crush on him

I love this theory, +10 points. "The Idol Stars' Secret" was the first manga case I ever edited.

[Katty008]

But why would she introduce herself under a different name?

[Tanner-kun]

I'm 95% sure this is a guy, simply because there have been times in the past where looks have been deceiving on the end where guys look like girls however there hasn't been any notable point where a girl has been highly masculine looking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLx9CRthrlg

[BlackToffy]

The Detective of the North was murder and The detective of the South was the culprit so their place are vacate (the north and south detective position)

But he was talking about having good ears...

 

Spoiler:

Being detective also required to have good ears

Just Discovered that :

Spoiler:

Sera is a wine name

so is he part of BO

I Hope so

I thought this was my post for a second xD
And I was thinking, "when on earth did I wrote this ?"

Must be the excess of onion head smileys

But why would she introduce herself under a different name?

Spoiler:

To keep the suspend maybe

[Akonyl]

I like that idea, I'd be down to see that happen. Although if it is an actually relative of Okiya's the whole theory of Okiya being someone other than Okiya goes out the window since, aside from Vermouth and Kir, none of the B.O agents seem to have lives outside of the Organization

although there has been speculation that Sera looks alot like Akai, maybe Sera finally figured out where his big brother was and went to find him. That could be huge cuz that would blow Akai's cover sky high

hypothetically of course

just because they don't have lives outside of the organization doesn't mean they don't have relatives. Not exactly Akai's choice to have a brother/sister/cousin or not

[kkslider5552000]

You do realize you just described every character except for Conan, Akai and arguably Gin right?

Not really. His statement was in regards to characters that were used for a specific purpose at one point and have, once that purpose was served, now been relegated to interchangeable secondary roles or are just completely absent. Characters like Ayumi, Genta, and Mitsuhiko never had a grand backstory or any character-specific plot points that propelled the story forward--they still serve the same purpose they did from the beginning (to explore Conan's life as a child and the cover he has to maintain for that... along with beefing up the voice cast for 95% of anime originals). Those three have always remained the same, while the others have not, in other words.

well when there wasn't much plot, the Detective Boys were often used, just as the way you described it and to be involved with much of the non-murder cases. Since there was so little plot, at that point cases were the closest thing to it (that and the Ran relationship stuff). And they did have a LITTLE bit of development if you look at the manga order. Not to mention everyone except Conan from the early days has had to compete with so many more characters.

And I know what he meant, but still, for basically being main characters, it seems like Gosho really refused to evolve the characters, if not with character development than at least with the story. But I guess that's what happens when you try to add plot development to a status quo series...

[Jd-]

well when there wasn't much plot, the Detective Boys were often used, just as the way you described it and to be involved with much of the non-murder cases. Since there was so little plot, at that point cases were the closest thing to it (that and the Ran relationship stuff). And they did have a LITTLE bit of development if you look at the manga order. Not to mention everyone except Conan from the early days has had to compete with so many more characters.

And I know what he meant, but still, for basically being main characters, it seems like Gosho really refused to evolve the characters, if not with character development than at least with the story. But I guess that's what happens when you try to add plot development to a status quo series...

There is some minor character development for the D-Boys (at least between Ayumi and Haibara, brief as it was), but that still didn't advance the overall story (what I mentioned in the original post). That isn't to say I don't appreciate the little subtleties myself; just thought I'd clarify there. All this is why I've wanted a real rival for Conan that would put him in his place at least one time--while it wouldn't change the game as far as the main plot is concerned (as I'm going to mention below), it would give us a chance to explore a facet of Conan's character that we have not yet.

You are right in that upsetting the status quo is exactly why he won't make big advances with any of the everyday characters--that (unnecessarily?) complicates the usual formula, and could affect which ideas he could pursue for the normal cases. Even having Kogorou & Eri get back together permanently would place some "restrictions" on the sort of stories he can tell with those two characters (if you look back at basically all of them, you can see what I mean--he loves those "heartwarming" misunderstandings more than anything). Just one example, but that's why--until the endgame--we won't be seeing anything along those lines if we put it to chance.

[kkslider5552000]

Even having Kogorou & Eri get back together permanently would place some "restrictions" on the sort of stories he can tell with those two characters

yes, it would mean a grand total of ONE story he would no longer be able to tell about once a year. OH NO!!!

Besides, if you want to read a comedy romance manga with misunderstandings, School Rumble's a better choice. Or almost any other Conan relationship plot for that matter.

of course the problems go beyond Eri and Kogoro's stupid plot but I'm waiting for...another time...to rant about it

[Wakarimashita]

As much as having the Eri-Kogoro couple remaining the same can be annoying, I'm all for that. I'm among those who think having Sato and Takagi kiss wasn't a good idea because Gosho can no longer use that couple to write stories (which were usually good, the Matsuda one being brilliant) centered around them once in a while.

[Kor]

As much as having the Eri-Kogoro couple remaining the same can be annoying, I'm all for that. I'm among those who think having Sato and Takagi kiss wasn't a good idea because Gosho can no longer use that couple to write stories (which were usually good, the Matsuda one being brilliant) centered around them once in a while.

That's exactly the problem. Gosho simply can't use any of his "meant for romance" characters if they are "together". The question is - why? Why can't he write a case anymore with Sato and Takagi? Let's explore what their relationship is like when they are together. Romance is hardly just "how they got together", it's also like "how they are together". To me it seems like Gosho can only write (poorly) how they got to be "together" but nothing beyond that. That's exactly why most of the characters are still in the "precess". That's why Kazuha and Heiji for example won't confess their love until the very end.
I gotta admit that it's much easier to write the "struggle" to be together than what happens afterwards, but was it a good idea to stretch the romances so much? No. It becomes boring after the third excuse for why those two can't be together. How many "misunderstandings" can there be along the way? Is it truly not obvious enough that those characters will be together.
As I said, if the new character is indeed a rival for Ran or Shinichi, why did Gosho decide to come up with this "card" only now? It should have come up much earlier. Gosho has never let us doubt that Shinichi and Ran won't end up together, which is why I don't believe this new character is a love rival.

[RedPoppy]

Back on topic. There're a few spoilers about file 770. Check out, if you want to - I copied the spoilers from DCTP cbox, provided by Conan#1, KnightusMaximus and HADAA.

Spoiler:

Conan#1: File 770 spoiler: 世良ã

[Abs.]

[quote="RedPoppy"]
Back on topic. There're a few spoilers about file 770. Check out, if you want to - I copied the spoilers from DCTP cbox, provided by Conan#1, KnightusMaximus and HADAA.

Spoiler:

Conan#1: File 770 spoiler: 世良ã

[Wakarimashita]

As much as having the Eri-Kogoro couple remaining the same can be annoying, I'm all for that. I'm among those who think having Sato and Takagi kiss wasn't a good idea because Gosho can no longer use that couple to write stories (which were usually good, the Matsuda one being brilliant) centered around them once in a while.

That's exactly the problem. Gosho simply can't use any of his "meant for romance" characters if they are "together". The question is - why? Why can't he write a case anymore with Sato and Takagi? Let's explore what their relationship is like when they are together. Romance is hardly just "how they got together", it's also like "how they are together". To me it seems like Gosho can only write (poorly) how they got to be "together" but nothing beyond that. That's exactly why most of the characters are still in the "precess". That's why Kazuha and Heiji for example won't confess their love until the very end.
I gotta admit that it's much easier to write the "struggle" to be together than what happens afterwards, but was it a good idea to stretch the romances so much? No. It becomes boring after the third excuse for why those two can't be together. How many "misunderstandings" can there be along the way? Is it truly not obvious enough that those characters will be together.
As I said, if the new character is indeed a rival for Ran or Shinichi, why did Gosho decide to come up with this "card" only now? It should have come up much earlier. Gosho has never let us doubt that Shinichi and Ran won't end up together, which is why I don't believe this new character is a love rival.

Maybe because what happens afterwards is likely to be boring ?

[psyko_stevey_999]

We all forget, Gosho's still got one huge Sato/Takagi card up his sleeve [proposal] same goes for Shiratori and Kobayashi even though they've had less screen time

as for that spoiler, that would be really weird because I still think

Spoiler:

Sera is a guy