I don't think Conan will ever end

[Kor]

Really? Why?

because then we won't have any more Haibara! if DC ends, there won't be any more Haibara service and the greatest character ever will be forgotten!   
seriously, if there was no Haibara, I wouldn't have started to watch/read DC (started from episode 129 this year after watching episode 2 in germany a few years ago.)

[Melissa]

o__O

Well actually if DC ends, you have any other character anymore.

I love DC but I still think it's time for the story to end.

The longest story are not the best...

[ShihoShinx]

Really? Why?

because then we won't have any more Haibara! if DC ends, there won't be any more Haibara service and the greatest character ever will be forgotten!   

Absolutely right.
I HATE missing Haibara.
I'll surely go to Japan and kill Gosho if he make Haibara die in the end.

is Gosho won't end DC then it'll remain a cliff hanger forever  8) 8)

It's better for me than not satisfied of the ending.

[mangaluva]

I love DC and I want it to be around forever, but at the same time I want to know how it'll end... I want the characters to find fulfillment and closure... It's such a bittersweet thing. but I also don't want the manga to continue longer than Aoyama is happy to do it. You can tell when an artist no longer wants to be drawing what they're drawing. I've read a few good manga that have simply fallen apart near the end because the artist so obviously doesn't want to be doing it anymore. I don't want to see DC meet that fate. It's too good for that.

[mangaluva]

What would Aoyama do next, come to that? Live off the DC royalties forever or draw something else? I bet he could do a cool Dystopia manga. The Night Baron already looks like V.

[Kor]

I know what you mean but we are talking about Japan. So I'm not sure Aoyama does just feel free to stop the job just because he feels it's enough for him. I mean, you have the social pressure. You can't quit your job just because you want it here.

so japan believes in slavery and forcing people to do things for living they don't want to do? this seems...odd.
Gosho has the master cards here. He has the rights over DC. Shounen sunday only has the publishing rights and if Gosho wants to finish, they can't do anything to him.
I, as a writer, don't believe a writer can be forced to write, otherwise the result is awful. When I will get my novel published, I will want to continue another novel in the series. Even if my books will be a greater hit than Harry Potter, I will write only as much as I'll need for the story and not strech it any more than that. Most of the stories that ended, but still a writer continues to write just because his work is popular, only fail eventually because the story isn't as good as it was. Thankfully, Gosho didn't end his story yet.

[elfboy]

I don't think Gosho is being forced into doing anything he doesn't want. Otherwise, he'd come up with stories like Conan falling into a well that transports him back to Feudal Japan where he meets the ancestor of Ran (who looks exactly like her) as a Miko, and Heiji who is a cursed monk who flirts with demon hunter ninja Kazuha. Together they quest... together, solving crimes and righting wrongs while searching for the scattered shards of the APTX 4869.

This story seems familiar... Anyway,

Conan is convinced by Ran to track down her missing love Shinichi, who was convinced to leave the Hidden Leaf Village by Kaitou Kidmaru. Conan is taken in by his sensei, Kogorou Mouriya who is tasked with finding the new elected Hokage -- Sonoko.

... this sounds very familiar. Anyway...

you get the idea

[mangaluva]

I know what you mean but we are talking about Japan. So I'm not sure Aoyama does just feel free to stop the job just because he feels it's enough for him. I mean, you have the social pressure. You can't quit your job just because you want it here.

so japan believes in slavery and forcing people to do things for living they don't want to do? this seems...odd.
Gosho has the master cards here. He has the rights over DC. Shounen sunday only has the publishing rights and if Gosho wants to finish, they can't do anything to him.
I, as a writer, don't believe a writer can be forced to write, otherwise the result is awful. When I will get my novel published, I will want to continue another novel in the series. Even if my books will be a greater hit than Harry Potter, I will write only as much as I'll need for the story and not strech it any more than that. Most of the stories that ended, but still a writer continues to write just because his work is popular, only fail eventually because the story isn't as good as it was. Thankfully, Gosho didn't end his story yet.

That's kind of overexaggerating, Kor. Especially the slavery part. To publish anything, you need a publishing contract, which gives both you and the publishers- and marketers or any other parties involved- different levels of power. The write does not hold 100% of the power. This practice exists in all countries, in case you were wondering. It's just that Japanese social codes are a little stricter when it comes to work than they are in the west. It's not slavery. It's just stricter. In any country, if you've entered a publishing contract, you kind of owe the publishers to actually turn up the agreed amount of work. Think of Yuusaku getting stalked by his editors. Professional writers can't enter a contract then churn out a book a decade later, or whenever the hell they feel like it. All parties in a publishing contract have levels of rights and power, and that means that mangaka or authors or whatever have to turn up the goods. That's how it works.

[Kor]

I know what you mean but we are talking about Japan. So I'm not sure Aoyama does just feel free to stop the job just because he feels it's enough for him. I mean, you have the social pressure. You can't quit your job just because you want it here.

so japan believes in slavery and forcing people to do things for living they don't want to do? this seems...odd.
Gosho has the master cards here. He has the rights over DC. Shounen sunday only has the publishing rights and if Gosho wants to finish, they can't do anything to him.
I, as a writer, don't believe a writer can be forced to write, otherwise the result is awful. When I will get my novel published, I will want to continue another novel in the series. Even if my books will be a greater hit than Harry Potter, I will write only as much as I'll need for the story and not strech it any more than that. Most of the stories that ended, but still a writer continues to write just because his work is popular, only fail eventually because the story isn't as good as it was. Thankfully, Gosho didn't end his story yet.

That's kind of overexaggerating, Kor. Especially the slavery part. To publish anything, you need a publishing contract, which gives both you and the publishers- and marketers or any other parties involved- different levels of power. The write does not hold 100% of the power. This practice exists in all countries, in case you were wondering. It's just that Japanese social codes are a little stricter when it comes to work than they are in the west. It's not slavery. It's just stricter. In any country, if you've entered a publishing contract, you kind of owe the publishers to actually turn up the agreed amount of work. Think of Yuusaku getting stalked by his editors. Professional writers can't enter a contract then churn out a book a decade later, or whenever the hell they feel like it. All parties in a publishing contract have levels of rights and power, and that means that mangaka or authors or whatever have to turn up the goods. That's how it works.

it depends what are the rights you sell to the publishing house. if you sell all the rights, they can do whatever they please whether it's movie rights, etc.
I know what you mean. Even in literary agencies it's like that. Rowling's contract was for all her books, even though (obviously) she didn't need any agents for her 2-7 books.
It also depends on the contract. in Yuusaku's case, it seems like he promised many editors a new novel (or whatever) but in his case, it's probably not following the deadline.
But no one forces Rowling to continue to write, even though many fans would want her to, right?
of course a writer doesn't hold ALL the rights, Shounen Sunday is the only place Conan can be published in Japan because they hold the publishing rights. But they can't continue Conan without Gosho, because he holds the rights for his creation here.

As someone else said, it doesn't seem like Gosho doesn't want to continue. If he was forced, he would have shown it in his files. maybe create a case about a writer who kills himself because was forced to continue to write or even breaking the forth wall.

[Abs.]

because then we won't have any more Haibara! if DC ends, there won't be any more Haibara service and the greatest character ever will be forgotten!   
seriously, if there was no Haibara, I wouldn't have started to watch/read DC (started from episode 129 this year after watching episode 2 in germany a few years ago.)

Never doubt the possibility of a spinoff!

Vermouth x Shiho, both on the run for their involvement in the organization.  Encountering situations here and there where they need to use their respective skills (disguise and science stuff) to solve the case  find the one truth uh, do something.

[Kor]

because then we won't have any more Haibara! if DC ends, there won't be any more Haibara service and the greatest character ever will be forgotten!   
seriously, if there was no Haibara, I wouldn't have started to watch/read DC (started from episode 129 this year after watching episode 2 in germany a few years ago.)

Never doubt the possibility of a spinoff!

Vermouth x Shiho, both on the run for their involvement in the organization.  Encountering situations here and there where they need to use their respective skills (disguise and science stuff) to solve the case  find the one truth uh, do something.

for a Haibara spinoff, Vermouth should be the antagonist I think. and sometime in the middle, it should be revealed that Akemi is still alive (somehow...). After all of what Haibara has been through, she should have some sort of reward. Though I'm not entirely against Gosho regarding Haibara's bad life. In my novel there's also a character who had a bad life and bad things happen to her all the time which make her miserable.
I guess any writer needs some sort of a character he can torture a bit 

[Melissa]

of course a writer doesn't hold ALL the rights, Shounen Sunday is the only place Conan can be published in Japan because they hold the publishing rights. But they can't continue Conan without Gosho, because he holds the rights for his creation here.

Maybe Gosho mights feels some guilty about leaving the SUNDAY company in these kind of trouble.
In the same situation you may don't care about it, but what about him? He is japanese after all.

You know, most of japanese people have 2 or 3 weeks of holydays a years. But they usually don't take them because it would be a burden to the other employees who will have to do the work alone.

As someone else said, it doesn't seem like Gosho doesn't want to continue. If he was forced, he would have shown it in his files. maybe create a case about a writer who kills himself because was forced to continue to write or even breaking the forth wall.

Japanese people don't complain.
And actually Aoyama doesn't have any time to think about complaining. He is thinking 24h a day about the next plot/trick of the story.
I think this is enough to explain it.

[Kor]

of course a writer doesn't hold ALL the rights, Shounen Sunday is the only place Conan can be published in Japan because they hold the publishing rights. But they can't continue Conan without Gosho, because he holds the rights for his creation here.

Maybe Gosho mights feels some guilty about leaving the SUNDAY company in these kind of trouble.
In the same situation you may don't care about it, but what about him? He is japanese after all.

You know, most of japanese people have 2 or 3 weeks of holydays a years. But they usually don't take them because it would be a burden to the other employees who will have to do the work alone.

As someone else said, it doesn't seem like Gosho doesn't want to continue. If he was forced, he would have shown it in his files. maybe create a case about a writer who kills himself because was forced to continue to write or even breaking the forth wall.

Japanese people don't complain.
And actually Aoyama doesn't have any time to think about complaining. He is thinking 24h a day about the next plot/trick of the story.
I think this is enough to explain it.

Japan is too weird for me 

[Melissa]

Japan is too weird for me 

Don't worry, I live there for 6 years and I still feel the same.

But sometimes, I feel sorry for Aoyama. His life doesn't sound interesting at all. And his job is hard.
I hope he won't spoil the end of the story but in the same time...
I think he should stop everything.

Well, but I still have a little hope this time we'll arrive to new arc of the story.
Maybe not to quickly. I would say, we'll have a least 1 year of DC in SUNDAY MAGAZINE.
Because, even we have some conclusion in the coupling, there are still too many dark points in the main plot Aoyama needs to explain.

Just hope he didn't forgot them.
Especially the "Ai's mother's tape" point.

And you know, I told you about the interview but I should say something else:
actually, I can tell you that Aoyama said idle words twice:
- The first time: it seems he said a long time ago in an interview he would never draw the Kid in DC story story.... and he actually did.
- The second time: I read an interview on Yahoo.japan in august 2008 and Aoyama told there he would FINISH and EXPLAIN everything about Okiya before the 13th movie would be distributed on the cinema. And well, he didn't explain anything special...

So can we trully trust his words in the interviews? I don't know.
Better than nothing but...

[Abs.]

You know, most of japanese people have 2 or 3 weeks of holydays a years. But they usually don't take them because it would be a burden to the other employees who will have to do the work alone.

Japan is too weird for me 

People in countries other than Japan do this as well.