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soul_dreamer wrote:Even though, Shuukichi is strongly implied to be the middle brother, I won't fully believe it until I see a scene between Shuukichi and Masumi calling each other sister/brother. I'm still wondering how the middle brother is related to the plot.
I think exactly the same...there is still a small chance Shuukichi isn't the middle bro,and I'm waiting for a real confirmation about him.
And personally I don't see how Shuukichi could be useful to the plot...there was too much mystery about Sera's brother and the mystery girl,so I really hope they have an important role to play.
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keep in mind that if he's not the real brother then he can't be anything else than (RUM) or we will be disappointed and he'll be just a shogi champion
after all gosho used the face structure thing before with shuuichi's disguise and i don't see him doing it again i guess.
Could Rum being so slouchy person as Shukichi is? After all he's the Boss' right hand.
My dad’s a soldier blue I’ll be a soldier, too
When I grow older you will see me rescue you
I’ll teach you this old song so you can sing along
When I am dead and gone the day won’t be so long.
keep in mind that if he's not the real brother then he can't be anything else than (RUM) or we will be disappointed and he'll be just a shogi champion
after all gosho used the face structure thing before with shuuichi's disguise and i don't see him doing it again i guess.
shuukichi being rum is a long shot...he hasn't done anything suspicious enough to indicate that he's part of the B.O
second brother is more likely...it's just not moving the plot anywhere.
why do people keep thinking that it is so necessary that the middle brother move the plot along somehow?
I feel like making this assumption will make a lot of people disappointed when he gets revealed.
I hope that I can find someway to contribute to the community even if it's just random crack theories and looking things up for people who can't find the information they need.
jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:why do people keep thinking that it is so necessary that the middle brother move the plot along somehow?
because there was too much mystery about him,so it's logical to think he must have an important role for the main plot...this is what Gosho usually does.
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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:why do people keep thinking that it is so necessary that the middle brother move the plot along somehow?
because there was too much mystery about him,so it's logical to think he must have an important role for the main plot...this is what Gosho usually does.
exactly. why introduce a character if he's not going to contribute anything to the main plot...
I'm hoping that the middle brother doesn't actually exist, and that it is just Gosho's tribute to how in the Sherlock Holmes stories, there are references to Moriarty having a brother, whom we never meet and strangely has the same first name. What about this theory:
- Sera came to Japan upon hearing Akai was dead. This is her oldest brother who she refers to as the dead one.
- Akai wants to assure Sera that he is ok but doesn't want to compromise his cover, so he starts contacting her by phone and only refers to himself as her brother. He doesn't divulge where he is or what he's doing but talks to her about their common interest - detective work.
- Sera doesn't know if this guy is for real or not since everyone else seems to consider Akai dead. So she playfully refers to him as another brother ie a middle brother.
- There is no 'stronger' brother or 'smarter' brother. They are one and the same.
Hopefully it's not too dumb :p
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caribou wrote:I'm hoping that the middle brother doesn't actually exist, and that it is just Gosho's tribute to how in the Sherlock Holmes stories, there are references to Moriarty having a brother, whom we never meet and strangely has the same first name. What about this theory:
- Sera came to Japan upon hearing Akai was dead. This is her oldest brother who she refers to as the dead one.
- Akai wants to assure Sera that he is ok but doesn't want to compromise his cover, so he starts contacting her by phone and only refers to himself as her brother. He doesn't divulge where he is or what he's doing but talks to her about their common interest - detective work.
- Sera doesn't know if this guy is for real or not since everyone else seems to consider Akai dead. So she playfully refers to him as another brother ie a middle brother.
- There is no 'stronger' brother or 'smarter' brother. They are one and the same.
Hopefully it's not too dumb :p
Thats actually kind of similar to a theory that I came up with, so I kind of agree with you!
Shuuichi witnessed Conan/Shinichi keeping in contact with Ran via cell phone using a voice changer
and probably is copying him using the line "I'm on a tough job" which mimics Shinichi's "I'm on a tough case" viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12432
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At the very least, even if it does somehow become proved that Shuukichi is somehow related to Masumi and is the middle brother, I still want to claim that it is Akai Shuuichi on the phone (remember he does have a voice changer too)
I hope that I can find someway to contribute to the community even if it's just random crack theories and looking things up for people who can't find the information they need.
The identity of Akai and Sera's brother may strongly be relating to of whom is currently disguised as the black organisation member, Tooru Amuro or codename 'Bourbon'. This may seem as an ignorant assumption and a quiet myopic fact however, we already know that the middle brother had more of his fathers looks passed down than his mothers looks which were passed down to sera and shuichi. Bourbon also only appears later in the series after Akai Shuichi's faked death which could be a result of bourbon entering the black organisation for the sake of finding and perceiving the truth of his brothers death or to search further for his brother, like he has done many times when disguising as Akai. We also know that bourbon is known to bear a grudge against akai which could also be another hint faked by Bourbon in order to get closer to akai and gain the organisations trust. It is also mentioned in one of the mangas that Tooru Amuro could be with the police.
Random theory about Sera and that sibling thing going on:
I don't know if this has been raised before, but what if Sera is actually the middle brother? (Mystery girl can be the little sister instead?)
Sorry, my mind is muddled at 2 AM and I don't really have anything to support this theory. I'm just growing incredibly suspicious of Gosho throwing around Sera's "gender-ambiguity" all the time. It has to have a point or I'm gonna go crazy.
bluekaitou1412 wrote:Random theory about Sera and that sibling thing going on:
I don't know if this has been raised before, but what if Sera is actually the middle brother? (Mystery girl can be the little sister instead?)
Sorry, my mind is muddled at 2 AM and I don't really have anything to support this theory. I'm just growing incredibly suspicious of Gosho throwing around Sera's "gender-ambiguity" all the time. It has to have a point or I'm gonna go crazy.
Yeah I thought about that too,but since Gosho kinda confirmed that Sera masumi is Akai's sister(BO special booklet),I assumed we can trust that she is indeed a girl.but with Gosho we never know.
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Yeah, I agree. I mean, I wouldn't take Sera's ''gender-ambiguity'' too seriously. After all, Gosho said himself that he wanted a character that didn't look too much like Ran or Haibara.
Just came across this post with comparisons between Akai and Shuukichi and it actually had me thinking for a bit that Shuukichi could be another Akai disguise, but I think that would be taking things a bit too far so I'll just say that the family relation thing seems pretty likely then.
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bash7353 wrote:I kind of always assumed that Haneda's parents might've had names.
if Shuukichi is Shuuichi in disguise, Shuuichi must have supernatural power to live so many totally different lives. Shuukichi and Yumi have known each other and even dated for years, he also lives in an apartment long enough for even Yumi is remembered by the security man
btw, I also found that Shuukichi looked somehow familiar but couldn't explain, now the comments in this topic give me the answer. He turns out to look similar to the Hondou siblings )
I would buy more to the theory that Shuuichi and Shuukichi are twins brothers )
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But boredom made me come to it once again in Winter 2004.
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