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AICHAN wrote:
Conan324 wrote:
I think she meant that he was the presence she felt during the red, white, yellow case
i disagree, when okiya was in the professor house, she also felt his presence, so it has already been confirmed

i don't think so. the didn't feel the"pressure" when okiya was in the professor house.she was just hidding cause she suspect him during the fire case,but she wasn't sure it was really okiya the responsible of that "smell"!

then,in the ikkaku rock case,she felt the pressure when okiya tried to save ayumi,that's why she said"it's him" .it's in this moment she was sure he has contact with BO!
I'm kinda hoping that Ai's BO Sense is defective because I really, really don't want Okiya to be a bad guy... Although when I think rationally, he probably is Bourbon since there are no other new characters that are introduced in the arc so far.
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yukionna wrote:
AICHAN wrote:
Conan324 wrote:
I think she meant that he was the presence she felt during the red, white, yellow case
i disagree, when okiya was in the professor house, she also felt his presence, so it has already been confirmed

i don't think so. the didn't feel the"pressure" when okiya was in the professor house.she was just hidding cause she suspect him during the fire case,but she wasn't sure it was really okiya the responsible of that "smell"!

then,in the ikkaku rock case,she felt the pressure when okiya tried to save ayumi,that's why she said"it's him" .it's in this moment she was sure he has contact with BO!
I'm kinda hoping that Ai's BO Sense is defective because I really, really don't want Okiya to be a bad guy... Although when I think rationally, he probably is Bourbon since there are no other new characters that are introduced in the arc so far.

having contact with bo doesn't mean that okiya is a bad guy!ai also was in the BO,and Akai too,but they 're not bad! i trust haibara's radar,i don't think it 's defective (like with doctor araid,she felt  the pressure ,but he always was with jodie,so we didn't suspect him) !

that's why i think  okiya can be someone who was a BO member but for some reason he escaped,and worked with fbi or cia(assuming that okiya isn't bourbon or akai)!

but i think it would be fun if okiya was actually bourbon(and not akai),and finally help conan and fbi like rena(bourbon is a new member, so he can change of camp)
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Rellik wrote:
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Rellik wrote: but sometimes it is better if things were simple

i meaning wouldn't it be interesting if Okiya was Bourbon?
It would be interesting.. So what if he were.. conan goes, pwns his ass bllablla.. that would screw up the series :) trust me. But he is somehow affiliated with the black organization.. he'll play an important role!

so Conan shouldn't pwn his ass? O.o

so Conan should just turn a blind eye on what Bourbon is doing?
well the point is he is not doing anything :). The same thing happened with Camel, i guess we all believed he was a part of BO, if not that then he was just acting suspicious. And in the end it came out he was a loyal Fbi agent.. It was just too obvious. I guess u will understand in the upcoming chapters :). But of course, i can also be wrong.
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Korn wrote:
Rellik wrote:
Korn wrote:
Rellik wrote: but sometimes it is better if things were simple

i meaning wouldn't it be interesting if Okiya was Bourbon?
It would be interesting.. So what if he were.. conan goes, pwns his ass bllablla.. that would screw up the series :) trust me. But he is somehow affiliated with the black organization.. he'll play an important role!

so Conan shouldn't pwn his ass? O.o

so Conan should just turn a blind eye on what Bourbon is doing?
well the point is he is not doing anything :). The same thing happened with Camel, i guess we all believed he was a part of BO, if not that then he was just acting suspicious. And in the end it came out he was a loyal Fbi agent.. It was just too obvious. I guess u will understand in the upcoming chapters :). But of course, i can also be wrong.
Yeah. I've gotten really tired of suspecting suspicious people (Camel, Jodie, Akai). The bad guys (who are not currently known BO members) usually are the people you wouldn't suspect. For example, who actually suspected Araide-sensei? I was glad I wasn't drinking water during 345, because if I was, my laptop would have been sprayed.
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yukionna wrote:
Korn wrote:
Rellik wrote:
Korn wrote:
Rellik wrote: but sometimes it is better if things were simple

i meaning wouldn't it be interesting if Okiya was Bourbon?
It would be interesting.. So what if he were.. conan goes, pwns his ass bllablla.. that would screw up the series :) trust me. But he is somehow affiliated with the black organization.. he'll play an important role!

so Conan shouldn't pwn his ass? O.o

so Conan should just turn a blind eye on what Bourbon is doing?
well the point is he is not doing anything :). The same thing happened with Camel, i guess we all believed he was a part of BO, if not that then he was just acting suspicious. And in the end it came out he was a loyal Fbi agent.. It was just too obvious. I guess u will understand in the upcoming chapters :). But of course, i can also be wrong.
Yeah. I've gotten really tired of suspecting suspicious people (Camel, Jodie, Akai). The bad guys (who are not currently known BO members) usually are the people you wouldn't suspect. For example, who actually suspected Araide-sensei? I was glad I wasn't drinking water during 345, because if I was, my laptop would have been sprayed.
exactly :D
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Korn wrote:
yukionna wrote:
Korn wrote:
Rellik wrote:
Korn wrote:
Rellik wrote: but sometimes it is better if things were simple

i meaning wouldn't it be interesting if Okiya was Bourbon?
It would be interesting.. So what if he were.. conan goes, pwns his ass bllablla.. that would screw up the series :) trust me. But he is somehow affiliated with the black organization.. he'll play an important role!

so Conan shouldn't pwn his ass? O.o

so Conan should just turn a blind eye on what Bourbon is doing?
well the point is he is not doing anything :). The same thing happened with Camel, i guess we all believed he was a part of BO, if not that then he was just acting suspicious. And in the end it came out he was a loyal Fbi agent.. It was just too obvious. I guess u will understand in the upcoming chapters :). But of course, i can also be wrong.
Yeah. I've gotten really tired of suspecting suspicious people (Camel, Jodie, Akai). The bad guys (who are not currently known BO members) usually are the people you wouldn't suspect. For example, who actually suspected Araide-sensei? I was glad I wasn't drinking water during 345, because if I was, my laptop would have been sprayed.
exactly :D
I think the confusion about Okiya's identity is Aoyama-sensei's doing. Since we've seen episodes 188-189 (the flashlight trick that Conan used), we might be thinking that Aoyama-sensei would do the same thing to us! Maybe he drops the "flashlight" (in this example, the Bourbon bottle) as a hint, but we're thinking that Aoyama-sensei gave a misleading hint, so we think that Okiya is not Bourbon, when he is in fact Bourbon. Ahh!

Personally, I'm crossing my fingers that Okiya is not Bourbon.
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yukionna wrote: Personally, I'm crossing my fingers that Okiya is not Bourbon.
Me too. :D
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yukionna wrote: Personally, I'm crossing my fingers that Okiya is not Bourbon.
Me too. :D
I´m not. -.-

I have enough of the whole "Uh, he could be a bad guuuuy, but in the end he was one from the gooood side".
Oh please let him be a damn kick-ass chara who´s as bad as Gin but also have great detective skills. ;D
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James Rye wrote:
still.looking wrote:
yukionna wrote: Personally, I'm crossing my fingers that Okiya is not Bourbon.
Me too. :D
I´m not. -.-

I have enough of the whole "Uh, he could be a bad guuuuy, but in the end he was one from the gooood side".
Oh please let him be a damn kick-ass chara who´s as bad as Gin but also have great detective skills. ;D
oh yeah!it would be fun to me,even if i like okiya,he could be as bad as gin,i 'll love him even more!!! i don't want gosho to use the same trick than before,it would be lame ::)
or he could be a bad BO members and protect ai and conan( a bit like vermouth) at the same time!
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AICHAN wrote: or he could be a bad BO members and protect ai and conan( a bit like vermouth) at the same time!
That's fine with me :D Vermouth is my fave BO member. ^^
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still.looking wrote:
AICHAN wrote: or he could be a bad BO members and protect ai and conan( a bit like vermouth) at the same time!
That's fine with me :D Vermouth is my fave BO member. ^^
yes!she's cool,pretty,with a very ambiguous personality! so it would be fine if okiya was a bit like her(someone who can be in the both sides, and not just a bad or good guy)
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AICHAN wrote:
James Rye wrote:
still.looking wrote:
yukionna wrote: Personally, I'm crossing my fingers that Okiya is not Bourbon.
Me too. :D
I´m not. -.-

I have enough of the whole "Uh, he could be a bad guuuuy, but in the end he was one from the gooood side".
Oh please let him be a damn kick-ass chara who´s as bad as Gin but also have great detective skills. ;D
oh yeah!it would be fun to me,even if i like okiya,he could be as bad as gin,i 'll love him even more!!! i don't want gosho to use the same trick than before,it would be lame ::)
or he could be a bad BO members and protect ai and conan( a bit like vermouth) at the same time!
ahh exactly. OK well i don't want him to be as bad as Gin, i kind of want him to be loyal to no one (neither the BO nor the 'good' side) and just a really smart detective who's looking for someone to go head to head with. and maybe Conan letting him stay at his house is like a challenge - 'go on, see what you can find out about me!'

...though I think I'm hoping for too much because I don't think Conan will do something so reckless. :/
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Yeah, maybe he IS Bourbon AND also someone else, most likely CIA, since Kir's father told her "Someone else will assist you" which I interpreted as "some other character is also NOC XDDD*
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