Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 876-878

[MeiTanteixX]

Spoil much

[Fujiwara]

Here's the English translation of the last page of file 878:

Spoiler:

p.16

A bug ...

Sera: The one he has in the earpiece of his glasses, huh?

Sera: Dangerous, dangerous ...

Girl: It’s a type I haven’t seen before ...

Girl: *cough*

Girl: Judging from the battery size, the battery life is rather short ...

Girl: But this sort of performance in that shape ... it is most interesting ...

Girl: *cough* *cough*

Sera: So what do you think? Have you taken a liking to him?

Girl: I’m still a long way from trusting him ...

Girl: But if he becomes impatient and inquires about me, please tell him ...

Girl: That I’m your little sister ...

Girl: From outside the domain ...

Side note: (!)Things we learned: ① Is very close to Sera ② Has a calm, analytic mind ③ Is sickly ... ? ④ “Little sister from outside the domain” … ?? Next time, Heiji!!! 　

[k11chi]

thanks, makes more sense than that pyramid thing
Good **** no doubt

[User 4869]

@Fujiwara

Spoiler:

That I’m your little sister ...

Did "Your" refer to Sera or Conan/Shinichi
and
Is the word "Domain" the same one Subaru use

[Conan 48:69]

@Fujiwara

Spoiler:

That I’m your little sister ...

Did "Your" refer to Sera or Conan/Shinichi
and
Is the word "Domain" the same one Subaru use

Spoiler:

Sera used a word "domain" in File 845 Page 3 too.

[Fujiwara]

@Fujiwara

Spoiler:

That I’m your little sister ...

Did "Your" refer to Sera or Conan/Shinichi
and
Is the word "Domain" the same one Subaru use

Spoiler:

The "your" was obviously meant to refer to Sera. Why would it refer to Conan/Shinichi?

The reason I used the word "domain" and not "territory" was precisely because the word Sera uses is not the same word Akai and Okiya use, although both words express a similar concept.
As Conan pointed out, she uses the same word in file 845. Although it was translated as "territory" at that point, it is not the term used by Okiya.

Since the term "territory" and its synonyms have now been around for nearly 180 chapters and translations haven't always been consistent due to the fact that it's been a long time and various translators have worked on the files, I put together an overview over the various occurrences of words meaning territory/domain/area for reference purposes:

File 700, p.13 (message + flashback Akai): エリア - "area"
File 811, p.16 (Okiya): my エリア - "area"
File 811, p.16 (Okiya): your 領分 - "territory"
File 821, p.9 (Okiya): エリア - "area"
File 845, p.3 (Masumi): 領域 - "domain"
File 878, p.16 (mystery girl): 領域 - "domain"

All three words have the meaning "territory."
If I missed any occurences (which is likely ^^) please let me know and I'll add them.

Edit: Added more information about the usage of territory/domain/area

[User 4869]

Answer to Fijiwara

Spoiler:

the "your" was obviously meant to refer to Sera. Why would it refer to Conan/Shinichi?

Japanese often quote an entire sentence when speak. This is hard to explain but for example

Conan say to Heiji, "Tell her for me, that "you" are my most important person in this world." Now would that you refer to? Heiji, or Ran?

So Sera could say to Conan. That the girl give this words for you(Conan). I(The mysterious girl)’m your(Conan) little sister. Outside the domain.

Why I ask? Because Conan sister can refer to APTX fellows.

Thank for the clarification on the domain part.

[mihai]

Here's the English translation of the last page of file 878:

Spoiler:

p.16

A bug ...

Sera: The one he has in the earpiece of his glasses, huh?

Sera: Dangerous, dangerous ...

Girl: It’s a type I haven’t seen before ...

Girl: *cough*

Girl: Judging from the battery size, the battery life is rather short ...

Girl: But this sort of performance in that shape ... it is most interesting ...

Girl: *cough* *cough*

Sera: So what do you think? Have you taken a liking to him?

Girl: I’m still a long way from trusting him ...

Girl: But if he becomes impatient and inquires about me, please tell him ...

Girl: That I’m your little sister ...

Girl: From outside the domain ...

Side note: (!)Things we learned: ① Is very close to Sera ② Has a calm, analytic mind ③ Is sickly ... ? ④ “Little sister from outside the domain” … ?? Next time, Heiji!!! 　

Spoiler:

I wonder is 'outside the domain' has any meaning because it's a bit strange when you use it to refer to a sibling.

[shinichi1977]

Just a foil hat suggestion: the mystery girl being Shiho's mother. It could fit the frame why she is older than elementary school age, and it might only because it's past 11 PM here, but from the top of my head I recall being said they died in accident as the organization calls it, but had never seen the bodies, could also possibly answer why Sera was looking for Haibara

[Yukimi]

On a tangental topic, if the second brother does turn out to be Haneda Shuukichi, I really hope that he and Akai are in fact twins, because that would be the ONLY possible justification for parents naming their first and second sons Shuuichi and Shuukichi.

Actually that's pretty normal in Japan. For example my Japanese teacher's sisters were called Yuuko and Youko and the family I met in Kyoto had named its two sons Shingo and Keigo with the same kanji for the go and none of them were twins. They like to do weird stuff with names, for example that Japanese teacher name, Miyako, was pronounced like the word capital but written in unlikely kanjis because they were cuter for a girl and I also know one girl who got a distinctly male name because it was her grandfather's name but I can't remember which one it was.

[mihai]

Just a foil hat suggestion: the mystery girl being Shiho's mother. It could fit the frame why she is older than elementary school age, and it might only because it's past 11 PM here, but from the top of my head I recall being said they died in accident as the organization calls it, but had never seen the bodies, could also possibly answer why Sera was looking for Haibara

dunno if it's true, otherwise why would Conan say that the girl looks so much like Sera? When they look so much alike in DC, people are usually related to each other.

[Yottas]

Does anyone have any idea why the lids are missing?
Or why he had to go downstairs?

Yottas

[k11chi]

Does anyone have any idea why the lids are missing?
Or why he had to go downstairs?

Yottas

Hmm that shampoo thing.. maybe it was used to fake the death of the body somehow?
the part where he went to get cigarettes for 30mins at 5:30 might not have to do with anything, just kill time and wait until the real murder.. I just dont get why he didnt have people around him for alibi if that was the case
also he took the stairs instead of elevator?

[Yottas]

Does anyone have any idea why the lids are missing?
Or why he had to go downstairs?

Yottas

Hmm that shampoo thing.. maybe it was used to fake the death of the body somehow?
the part where he went to get cigarettes for 30mins at 5:30 might not have to do with anything, just kill time and wait until the real murder.. I just dont get why he didnt have people around him for alibi if that was the case
also he took the stairs instead of elevator?

What I don't understand is why the lids of the shampoo and conditioner are missing. If she disguised herself as a waitress (876-Page07), why would she use a shampoo and a conditioner?
I don't think that he went downstair just to buy some cigarettes... 877-03: This "two floors below" is so suspicious... The corpse was found at that time - coincidence?

Also worth a remark:
877-10 "Using a rope to climb down would be pretty scarry" - I don't think that at least he climbed down.
877-06 "He went with his purse in hand in the direction of the stairs" - He could have something "viable" in his purse, and "in the direction" sounds suspicious as well.
877-15 "Lowering his head" - Why was that "the last piece" that Sera and Conan needed to solve this case?

There is something I don't see... But what is it?

Yottas

[bluekaitou1412]

She could be a shrunken Elena (Haibara's Mom).

EDIT: Er. No. Maybe not. I'll just point out the hairstyle then. Curl reminiscent of Yukiko's.