Detective Conan Files 804-808 Discussion Thread: T a k a g i

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Borealis wrote: Am I the only one who wants to discuss the CASE?! *slightly annoyed* :-\
Sorry I'm just disappointed that we have a Takagi/Sato case instead of something related to the plot...and I think I'm not the only one.
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Borealis wrote: Am I the only one who wants to discuss the CASE?! *slightly annoyed* :-\
Sorry I'm just disappointed that we have a Takagi/Sato case instead of something related to the plot...and I think I'm not the only one.
This is going to be a big case, I think. It has the hallmarks of one. Not one that will blow the lid off the Black Org plot or anything, but for the Satou & Takagi romance story.
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Jd- wrote:
AICHAN wrote:
Borealis wrote: Am I the only one who wants to discuss the CASE?! *slightly annoyed* :-\
Sorry I'm just disappointed that we have a Takagi/Sato case instead of something related to the plot...and I think I'm not the only one.
This is going to be a big case, I think. It has the hallmarks of one. Not one that will blow the lid off the Black Org plot or anything, but for the Satou & Takagi romance story.
Yeah this is exactly why I'm disappointed...
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Jd- wrote:
AICHAN wrote:
Borealis wrote: Am I the only one who wants to discuss the CASE?! *slightly annoyed* :-\
Sorry I'm just disappointed that we have a Takagi/Sato case instead of something related to the plot...and I think I'm not the only one.
This is going to be a big case, I think. It has the hallmarks of one. Not one that will blow the lid off the Black Org plot or anything, but for the Satou & Takagi romance story.
Exactly
The mad bomber case had nothing to do with BO or "plot" and people loved it.
And please don't use that word as if it was reserved exclusively for BO-cases, AICHAN. Character developement and backgroundstories are as well part of "the plot". Perhaps not the BO-plot but part of the DC-plot.

Like Jd, I'm seeing potential for a big case and I'd like to discuss THAT in this thread instead something that already has ten threats. If you can't think of anything except the BO/Bourbon/Akai/Sera/whatever-arc, there are several threads to discuss that. You will have to use Spoiler-boxes but that didn't seem to be a problem in this thread

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Why are you disappointed about a Takagi/Satou-case anyway? Especially since it doesn't seem like a simple romantic case.
On the contrary, it apears to give us Takagi's background story or at least parts of it.
Some might have to wait for another hint regarding the BO for a bit longer but the Vermouth-arc had far bigger gaps and noone complained. And we (or at least I) have been waiting for Takagi's background story for far FAR longer
Again, for anyone complaining about the Bourbon-arc streatching for ages: The BO-plot has never been progressing so fast as now (except perhaps a couple of cases where the BO-arc was concentrated. And they had loats of built-up.)
You might want to get to the conclusion faster but personally, for me the clues are alredy becomming too obvious right now and I'd like a slower pace. (it is entirely possible that I am just thinking like this because I've read other's theories and that is wh they are now "obvious" to me)
Personally I find the backgound stories of most characters more interesting than who Bourbon is right now.
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Borealis wrote:
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And why are you disappointed about a Takagi/Satou-case anyway? Especially since it doesn't seem like a simple romantic case.
On the contrary, it apears to give us Takagi's background story or at least parts of it.
Some might have to wait for another hint regarding the BO for a bit longer but the Vermouth-arc had far bigger gaps and noone complained. And we (or at least I) have been waiting for Takagi's background story for far FAR longer
Ai and myself simply don't like those characters, that's why.
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Borealis wrote:
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And why are you disappointed about a Takagi/Satou-case anyway? Especially since it doesn't seem like a simple romantic case.
On the contrary, it apears to give us Takagi's background story or at least parts of it.
Some might have to wait for another hint regarding the BO for a bit longer but the Vermouth-arc had far bigger gaps and noone complained. And we (or at least I) have been waiting for Takagi's background story for far FAR longer
Ai and myself simply don't like those characters, that's why.
Still no reason to get off-topic (and this thread is a CASE discussion, not a who-is-which-bo-member-discussion)
plus, this case has a lot of potential to be very interesting to those who actually kinda like these characters
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I like that this case has a bit of a...
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Jd- wrote: I like that this case has a bit of a...
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Takagi-keiji. I want to play a game with you >:-D
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We should make a 'For those who want to complain' thread (call it whatever you like : 'DC needs to end', 'we need more BO', 'not enough  plot in  DC' etc...) so we could avoid the weekly rants in every single case thread and actually discuss about the given cases.  
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Well, I wouldn't strictly say this is only a case discussion thread -- it's more like a 'content-of-file' discussion thread. Bourbon-oriented discussions are fine given the
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I'm sure many people are waiting for the DCTP scan before delving too much into case speculation.

I see a lot of people have determined this case probably isn't relevant to the plot. Personally, I think there's been more meaningful development in the "police love story" aspect of the Conan plot than in the so-called main plot itself since at least volume 49. But that's a rant for another place. ;)
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Wakarimashita wrote: We should make a 'For those who want to complain' thread (call it whatever you like : 'DC needs to end', 'we need more BO', 'not enough  plot in  DC' etc...) so we could avoid the weekly rants in every single case thread and actually discuss about the given cases.  
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Wakarimashita wrote: We should make a 'For those who want to complain' thread (call it whatever you like : 'DC needs to end', 'we need more BO', 'not enough  plot in  DC' etc...) so we could avoid the weekly rants in every single case thread and actually discuss about the given cases.  
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I'm not sure it would stop people though.
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Interesting looking case though. Takagi up until now has had zero backstory which has driven me a little nuts. Maybe we'll get the names of some of his family as well as his old mentor. I'm surprised though his case only happened a year ago. That is pretty recent. Takagi must be good at hiding sadness because I would think he would have been reminded of his mentor since then. I like the theory someone posted that Takagi's wrestling love comes from his mentor.
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@Wakari: *g* good one

@Knightus:
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1) Ok, he apeared for one full page and in three other pannels. He surely is the most important person in this chapter
2) Well, it didn't take a translation to begin spekulating about his apearance
3) "...isn't relevant to the plot." Arain, the BO-plot isn't "THE plot", it is one sub-plot, alas a big one. Gosho himself stated that DC isn't a pure mystery-series, it is a romantic comedy just as much
4) I'm not talking about the love story, it doesn't semm like this case is going that way. I'm talking about the background of a character that some fans like and of whom no background was given thus far.
5) please remember that BO was there from the beginning. The characters from the police have been introduced over some time and at some point were fleshed-out enough to give them a love life.
and when you look closely, we have as much information on the bachgrounds of BO members as for some police officers. Some within the police have more but
a) they all got it in a small arc or had it integrated into a case
b) the BO are supposed to be mysterious. We are supposed to know less about them.

@Chaekhov: I totally agree
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It has been driving me nuts as well. *Takagi fan here*
It would be interesting to find aout about his family. I really hope he hasn't lost all of his relatives. I'm really curious about his upbringing. He is sensitive but can take some beating (both physical as metaphorical)
In the mad bomber case he seemed to speak from experience when he told Satou about how to cope with the loss of a loved one.
I think the wrestling thing is something that he keeps to remind him of his mentor. Perhaps he got him hooked on it?
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Kor wrote:
Wakarimashita wrote: We should make a 'For those who want to complain' thread (call it whatever you like : 'DC needs to end', 'we need more BO', 'not enough  plot in  DC' etc...) so we could avoid the weekly rants in every single case thread and actually discuss about the given cases.  
.......Nyral?  :o
If I were Nyral, I would have proposed one single (and preferably well hidden) thread for all the complaints about Ran ! :P
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