Dark Contact (700-704) Follow-Up Poll: Who are Okiya and scar Akai?

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What are the identities of Okiya and scar Akai?

Okiya is Akai and scar Akai is Bourbon
38
47%
Okiya is Bourbon and scar Akai is Akai
9
11%
Okiya is Kudo Yuusaku and scar Akai is Bourbon
2
2%
Okiya is Kudo Yuusaku and scar Akai is Vermouth
2
2%
Okiya is Vermouth and scar Akai is Akai
0
No votes
Okiya is Vermouth and scar Akai is Bourbon
1
1%
Okiya is Akai and scar Akai is Vermouth
5
6%
Okiya is Bourbon and scar Akai is Vermouth
3
4%
Okiya is someone else and scar Akai is Bourbon
3
4%
Okiya is someone else and scar Akai is Vermouth
1
1%
Okiya is someone else and scar Akai is Akai
4
5%
It's Kaitou Kid!
6
7%
I don’t know
2
2%
I have my own idea which I will describe below...
5
6%
 
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  4. This is just a guess: Maybe Bourbon is somebody else who appear unusually often these days (Gosho also did that too, when Vermouth disguised as Araide-sensei, he appeared really often).  I think Bourbon might be disguise as Agasa (I hope not), or Sonoko, or maybe even Ran... I think Sonoko is the most suspicious, she has met Okiya at Shinichi's house, so maybe she'd ask Vermouth to disguise as Akai to lure the real one out (who's actually Okiya).
 
well,gosho has already used this trick Araide,so i really hope that he won't do the same again ::),
that's also why i don't want that  Okiya=Akai: a lot of people believe in this theory,including me,so it wouldn't be surprised if that happen,and what i like with Gosho is that he always surprise me!

but i'm the only one who think that it's weird to see Okiya very close to the professor?(he propose to help him for his research,he take care of the DB during ikkaku rock case,he cooks for the professor...) :-\
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Sere wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Why don't you think Akai is alive, Sere? I forgot what your reasons were...
I hate it if authors resurrect their characters. A dead character should stay dead. And as long as I don't read that it is Akai, i will not believe anything.
That didn't answer my question, but I won't push it if you would prefer not to elaborate...
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Sere wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Why don't you think Akai is alive, Sere? I forgot what your reasons were...
I hate it if authors resurrect their characters. A dead character should stay dead. And as long as I don't read that it is Akai, i will not believe anything.
That didn't answer my question, but I won't push it if you would prefer not to elaborate...
Well, the last sentence answers it ^^
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Sere wrote: I hate it if authors resurrect their characters. A dead character should stay dead.
How can you be sure that Akai is dead? ;D

The choice "Kaito Kid" should be eliminated right away because KID has never been involved in the MAIN plot.
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Tenken wrote:
Sere wrote: I hate it if authors resurrect their characters. A dead character should stay dead.
How can you be sure that Akai is dead? ;D
Well, he was shot in the head and then the car was burned. And yes, I know what tricks could have been used, but no, I still won't believe it until Gosho himself reveals it.
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Okiya quote about "Hot Bitter coffee" is suspicious... it's like how Gin said he doesnt want to see Bourbon face after learning that Akai might still be alive... and Okiya smiled while commenting about inviting the members he spotted to some "hot, bitter" coffee... like describing how they are feeling and like shpwing how confident he is at being right, if Okiya is Bourbon that is.
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kentasaiba wrote: Okiya - Still CIA
Fake-Akai- Bourbon? Why should he safe Kudo in the Bank. And Gin dont know about him.
It would be funny if he thinks Fake-Akai is Real-Akai ans he orders Chianti to shoot him.
yeah! ;D afterall bourbon is secretive,so if he's the fake akai,it would make sence that gin wasn't informed of that plan (and shoot him thinking he's Akai!:D)
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kentasaiba wrote: Gin: Boss I killed Akai.
Boss: But... wasn´t Bourbon disguised as Akai?
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Gin: Fuuuuuck
loooooolz!
exactly what i imagined  ;D
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AICHAN wrote:
kentasaiba wrote: Gin: Boss I killed Akai.
Boss: But... wasn´t Bourbon disguised as Akai?
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Gin: Fuuuuuck
loooooolz!
exactly what i imagined  ;D
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Khinkhun wrote:
AICHAN wrote:
kentasaiba wrote: Gin: Boss I killed Akai.
Boss: But... wasn´t Bourbon disguised as Akai?
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Gin: YEEEAAAHHH!
loooooolz!
exactly what i imagined  ;D
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Fixed, i lol´d. :D
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kentasaiba wrote: Gin: Boss I killed Akai.
Boss: But... wasn´t Bourbon disguised as Akai?
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Gin: Fuuuuuck
LOL that would be such a supreme anticlimax to all this WHO-IS-BOURBON?? speculation...

From the way chapter 703 is written it looks like Gosho is gearing towards making it look like Okiya = Bourbon (as he has been doing from the start...). I suppose whether Okiya = Bourbon or Okiya = Akai, none of us DCTP forumers will be 'surprised'. :P I'm just hoping that Gosho will add some additional twist to it, like in this newest case where the culprit goes on to do something else...

I don't like the Akai-is-alive theory either.. I don't think I can prove that he is REALLY dead, I just think it would be better story-wise. I think if he faked his death it would make his character too invincible, and I also think something bad has to happen to the 'good' side at some point (which has been strengthened so much by allies by now: James and Jodie who turned out to be from the FBI, Akai, Eisuke, and Camel who turned out to be a GOOD agent).

Akai's death would also mean that there is really only one 'silver bullet' left, and bolster Shinichi's importance to defeating the BO. Also even though Akai is very smart, I think he also always recognised the inevitable dangers of his job, and he seems to be like Heiji and Conan, who would go to the deep end rather than play it safe (in the Rena arc he commented about hooking the 'bait' deeper instead of letting it dangle in the dark, something to that effect). Basically I mean that although he wouldn't let himself be killed if he could help it, and he wouldn't endanger others, but he was probaby quite ready to make himself the sacrifice.
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704 spoiler:
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Assuming a valid spoiler, scarred!Akai is not Vermouth. She's out on a motorbike next to Gin's Porsche. Still doesn't quite rule her out for being the one who saved Conan in the Bank Robbery, but I'll admit Bourbon protecting Conan goes into do-not-want bias territory for me.
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Conan324 wrote: the spoiler are out?  :o
Yep, looks like it. It's very, very long. Sere's still working translating it into English in the DCTP spoiler chat box.
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Wow, what a long spoiler. I really wonder if Chianti is a professionel. XD

Can we talk in this thread about the spoiler or not? ???
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Gosho! Even Gin thinks that this burned Akai is Akai? Whats going on??? :o
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just wondering what makes you think that this B.O arc will last only until 705?
does that mean we only have 2 chapters left?
is 700 - 705 just a estimate? i feel kinda stupid asking this....sorry :(
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