Identity of Sera's middle brother (Spoilers)

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Re: Identity of Sera's middle brother (Spoilers)

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soul_dreamer wrote:@MeiTanteixX: You right, but in manga, she was only mentioned and her picture as a Phantom Lady was showed in the background, but I guess you can count it as an appearance. Well I don't Yukiko and Chikage to be sisters, but I guess I will start to get used to the fact that they might be sisters indeed. There will be other interesting things that I will look for, at least.

@Aslinn: Yes it would be funny to have Eisuke and Shuuichi in the same room, but the same time I would find it interesting, considering their character differences. It could quite entertaining.
but guys, they were once in the same room, but for a moment though

Aslinn wrote:It would be soooo funny if the akai and the honda are related. Imagine Shuichi and Eisuke in the same room... xD But, in this case, why Rena and Shuichi didn't reconize each other in Red and Black? If Shuichi know about his uncle, he would underdtand that Rena is his cousin thanks to her story...

And if yukiko and chikage are really sisters, I will be so glad!! I love Kaito, and it will explain why chikage appeared in dc and why she don't look like the same as in Magic Kaito... ^_^

Oh, and did gosho already confirm that the middle bro is 28? Seems like all the theories about him are based on his age.
if ur referring from my theory about them being cousins, then it's Akai's aunt's husband(father sister's man) but some still call it uncle, or uncle-in-law, so sorry if u were referring to that! !! ^^ maybe akai got aware of them being cousins after researching ethan hondou, but withheld from telling about it because it might distract them from their ultimate plan: his own cousin Fake-killing him!!

Would make sense though why the families has this thing for looking like the opposite sex (eisuke and masumi) wouldn't it?
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Re: Identity of Sera's middle brother (Spoilers)

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I know this is funny but,.....
i think rei furuya is the middle brother because when he first sees sera his expression changes as if he has seen her before...and it is strongly hinted that bourbon is a gud guy and knows akai well before.
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Anokata(That Person) wrote:I know this is funny but,.....
i think rei furuya is the middle brother because when he first sees sera his expression changes as if he has seen her before...and it is strongly hinted that bourbon is a gud guy and knows akai well before.
He tried to frame his own brother to get to the inner circle? ;>
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Re: Identity of Sera's middle brother (Spoilers)

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Anokata(That Person) wrote:I know this is funny but,.....
i think rei furuya is the middle brother because when he first sees sera his expression changes as if he has seen her before...and it is strongly hinted that bourbon is a gud guy and knows akai well before.
i really doubt that because honestly speaking there is NO evidence or signs pointing to that possibility
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Re: Identity of Sera's middle brother (Spoilers)

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MeiTanteixX wrote:
Anokata(That Person) wrote:I know this is funny but,.....
i think rei furuya is the middle brother because when he first sees sera his expression changes as if he has seen her before...and it is strongly hinted that bourbon is a gud guy and knows akai well before.
i really doubt that because honestly speaking there is NO evidence or signs pointing to that possibility
except his age, witch is approximately the same as what the middle brother's friends are.
Rei - 29 years old
Brothers friends - 28-29 years old
Other than that it would be pretty random.
Although it would be pretty funny if it turned out that way somehow,
because that would make all three of the main Bourbon suspects siblings!
(Even though we all know who Bourbon is now)
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sera's brother (confirmed)?

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According to the latest resource, it has been confirmed that Shukichi Haneda is Sera’s brother and it will be mentioned in file 905 published 2 weeks later.
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Not sure if this is confirmed, but soon Conan and Sera will solve the pool murder, and will start to chat about various things, so maybe Sera will mention that she knows even more Conan's friends.
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Haneda Shukichi is Sera Masumi and Akai Shuiichi's Brother

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What do you guys think? His (Shukichi) intelligence, the way Subaru/Shuu smiled at the end while looking at the pc about Shukichi's 7th win, and the way their little sister outside the domain is smiling and hiding the tv broadcast of Shukichi's game from Sera, makes me think that he is the other brother.
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I don't think that's a clear-cut confirmation, though it does increase the possibility significantly. Doesn't it say something like Sera will call Shuuikichi "kichi-niichan/niisan" (I don't know which one to be exact)? Well,if he is the second brother, I wonder what is his role in the main plot.
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cchanged wrote:I don't think that's a clear-cut confirmation, though it does increase the possibility significantly. Doesn't it say something like Sera will call Shuuikichi "kichi-niichan/niisan" (I don't know which one to be exact)? Well,if he is the second brother, I wonder what is his role in the main plot.
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Sera-chan wa kichi-nii tte yonderu

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Re: Identity of Sera's middle brother (Spoilers)

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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
cchanged wrote:I don't think that's a clear-cut confirmation, though it does increase the possibility significantly. Doesn't it say something like Sera will call Shuuikichi "kichi-niichan/niisan" (I don't know which one to be exact)? Well,if he is the second brother, I wonder what is his role in the main plot.
セラちゃんはキチにいってよんでる。

Sera-chan wa kichi-nii tte yonderu

this is what the Animal Crossing hint that was posted to the Spoiler box said.

"kichi-nii"
Thanks for checking for me. Well, Conan calls Ran "Ran-neechan" but this doesn't mean that Ran is his older sister. We will have to wait to see if Shuuikichi is the middle brother. Shuuikichi is too young to be called "ojisan". The only way I could see how Shuuikichi fits into the story is that he plays shogi and, if I remember correctly, Itakura was developing a shogi game before he died.
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Re: Identity of Sera's middle brother (Spoilers)

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cchanged wrote:
jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
cchanged wrote:I don't think that's a clear-cut confirmation, though it does increase the possibility significantly. Doesn't it say something like Sera will call Shuuikichi "kichi-niichan/niisan" (I don't know which one to be exact)? Well,if he is the second brother, I wonder what is his role in the main plot.
セラちゃんはキチにいってよんでる。

Sera-chan wa kichi-nii tte yonderu

this is what the Animal Crossing hint that was posted to the Spoiler box said.

"kichi-nii"
Thanks for checking for me. Well, Conan calls Ran "Ran-neechan" but this doesn't mean that Ran is his older sister. We will have to wait to see if Shuuikichi is the middle brother. Shuuikichi is too young to be called "ojisan". The only way I could see how Shuuikichi fits into the story is that he plays shogi and, if I remember correctly, Itakura was developing a shogi game before he died.

As far as we know so far, the middle brother does not fit into the main plot. All we have had him do so far is tell Masumi whether or not she was correct on one case and then mention that he knows Conan in another case. That and that he is on an important Job and can't meet with Masumi or let her come live with him.

If Shuukichi does turn out to be the middle brother (and I still have my doubts), then I seriously doubt anything plot related would come from it. He would just become another face in a line of puzzle solving detectives that just happens to be related to important characters. Itakura was developing a Shogi game, but we do not know if its the same as the program that he was developing for the Black organization.

I feel like its somewhat typical for young children, especially ones at Conan's age, to call other people by things like Brother, Sister, Aunt, and Uncle even when they are not related. We know that Conan is really Shinichi, but he is hiding his identity and acting like a little kid. The question is whether Masumi would do the same even though she is a High school student.

As for the "Kichi-nii", its pretty reasonable to conclude that it is a shortened form of "Shuukichi" since Masumi already calls "Shuuichi" by the name "Shuu-nii". My main problem with this is that we don't know the contexts of the statement from the Animal Crossing hint. "Kichi" could still be a nickname or something for the Middle brother who we still really don't know anything about, not even his name. According to [Jisho.org] a japanese dictionary website, "Kichi" in katakana, as its presented above, could also be "mania / enthusiasm". There are also Kanji that can have the reading of "kichi" which can translate as "good fortune", "dangerous position", and "extraordinary wisdom" We literally won't know which it is until it happens, or more clues are given.

As for Shuuichi and the Mystery Girl smiling at the end of the Shogi tournament case, this is only proof that either they both like Shogi or that they both know Shuukichi. A smile is not proof of being a blood relative.
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Even though, Shuukichi is strongly implied to be the middle brother, I won't fully believe it until I see a scene between Shuukichi and Masumi calling each other sister/brother. I'm still wondering how the middle brother is related to the plot.
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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
cchanged wrote:
jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
cchanged wrote:I don't think that's a clear-cut confirmation, though it does increase the possibility significantly. Doesn't it say something like Sera will call Shuuikichi "kichi-niichan/niisan" (I don't know which one to be exact)? Well,if he is the second brother, I wonder what is his role in the main plot.
セラちゃんはキチにいってよんでる。

Sera-chan wa kichi-nii tte yonderu

this is what the Animal Crossing hint that was posted to the Spoiler box said.

"kichi-nii"
Thanks for checking for me. Well, Conan calls Ran "Ran-neechan" but this doesn't mean that Ran is his older sister. We will have to wait to see if Shuuikichi is the middle brother. Shuuikichi is too young to be called "ojisan". The only way I could see how Shuuikichi fits into the story is that he plays shogi and, if I remember correctly, Itakura was developing a shogi game before he died.

As far as we know so far, the middle brother does not fit into the main plot. All we have had him do so far is tell Masumi whether or not she was correct on one case and then mention that he knows Conan in another case. That and that he is on an important Job and can't meet with Masumi or let her come live with him.

If Shuukichi does turn out to be the middle brother (and I still have my doubts), then I seriously doubt anything plot related would come from it. He would just become another face in a line of puzzle solving detectives that just happens to be related to important characters. Itakura was developing a Shogi game, but we do not know if its the same as the program that he was developing for the Black organization.

I feel like its somewhat typical for young children, especially ones at Conan's age, to call other people by things like Brother, Sister, Aunt, and Uncle even when they are not related. We know that Conan is really Shinichi, but he is hiding his identity and acting like a little kid. The question is whether Masumi would do the same even though she is a High school student.

As for the "Kichi-nii", its pretty reasonable to conclude that it is a shortened form of "Shuukichi" since Masumi already calls "Shuuichi" by the name "Shuu-nii". My main problem with this is that we don't know the contexts of the statement from the Animal Crossing hint. "Kichi" could still be a nickname or something for the Middle brother who we still really don't know anything about, not even his name. According to [Jisho.org] a japanese dictionary website, "Kichi" in katakana, as its presented above, could also be "mania / enthusiasm". There are also Kanji that can have the reading of "kichi" which can translate as "good fortune", "dangerous position", and "extraordinary wisdom" We literally won't know which it is until it happens, or more clues are given.

As for Shuuichi and the Mystery Girl smiling at the end of the Shogi tournament case, this is only proof that either they both like Shogi or that they both know Shuukichi. A smile is not proof of being a blood relative.
I doubt it would be that complicated; Masumi calling Shuukichi ''Kichi-nii.'' The smiles at the end are definitely not solid evidence; but why did the Mystery Chick and Subaru smile? Why would Gosho choose those two, unless the reason was significant?

But yeah, Shuukichi being the middle brother would suck. It actually doesn't make sense; why Shuukichi would hide something so insignificant from Masumi. Also, I doubt he has anything to do with the main plot. He's more or less just...there.
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Re: Identity of Sera's middle brother (Spoilers)

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soul_dreamer wrote:Even though, Shuukichi is strongly implied to be the middle brother, I won't fully believe it until I see a scene between Shuukichi and Masumi calling each other sister/brother. I'm still wondering how the middle brother is related to the plot.
I think exactly the same...there is still a small chance Shuukichi isn't the middle bro,and I'm waiting for a real confirmation about him.
And personally I don't see how Shuukichi could be useful to the plot...there was too much mystery about Sera's brother and the mystery girl,so I really hope they have an important role to play.
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