Detective Conan Files 804-808 Discussion Thread: T a k a g i

[doublemoonlight]

bit late for this and somebot prbably mentioned this already but bla

do you think Natalie Kuruma looked ALOT like Jodie from FBI?

is this how Gisho draws all American woman?

[makoto]

maybe if was a BO member and they killed him with poison like we saw in  a movie or OVA i forgot

just a weird theory

[Conan 48:69]

My guess is the one who drugged the wine is Amuro. After hearing conversation between DB and old man and knowing Takagi is kidnapped, Amuro investigated where is that old man's house and data about this old man, then went to that old man's house and drugged the wine while that old man not around, then went to search Takagi himself. And that's Amuro Tooru's way. Why? because he is Bourbon.

[Stopwatch]

bit late for this and somebot prbably mentioned this already but bla

do you think Natalie Kuruma looked ALOT like Jodie from FBI?

is this how Gisho draws all American woman?

Oh, I thought the eyes were more like Vermouth's to be honest so...

[Yukiko Kudo]

i think the criminal will be saved. but takagi will be saved be4 that

[doublemoonlight]

bit late for this and somebot prbably mentioned this already but bla

do you think Natalie Kuruma looked ALOT like Jodie from FBI?

is this how Gisho draws all American woman?

Oh, I thought the eyes were more like Vermouth's to be honest so...

well to be honest Jodie and Vermouth look REALLY alike each other soo...

[Abs.]

i think the criminal will be saved. but takagi will be saved be4 that

Yeah, I believe the culprit will be saved too.

[sstimson]

I have a problem with this being suicide. If he poisoned his own wine, then why did he not first push the button and kill Takagi? Also it to me looks like he was surprised by the drink. If he had poisoned it, then why the face of surprise? Which again raises the question of who killed him and why?

[Yukiko Kudo]

I have a problem with this being suicide. If he poisoned his own wine, then why did he not first push the button and kill Takagi? Also it to me looks like he was surprised by the drink. If he had poisoned it, then why the face of surprise? Which again raises the question of who killed him and why?

  true i think one of the suspects poisoned him

[mihai]

I have a problem with this being suicide. If he poisoned his own wine, then why did he not first push the button and kill Takagi? Also it to me looks like he was surprised by the drink. If he had poisoned it, then why the face of surprise? Which again raises the question of who killed him and why?

 true i think one of the suspects poisoned him

I don't know which suspect would poison him, since Natalie's relatives died in an accident. It'd be interesting if Amuro did it but I don't see how and why would he do that.
Also, it's interesting all 3 women hanged themselves in the same day, dunno if it has any connection to the case. But since Conan will give us his deduction about the case next week, the case will probably settle with finding whereabouts and rescuing him in the last moment

while waiting all these days/weeks for the new chapter I was thinking of something: what if someone from the BO would give Conan the antidote for that drug and he goes back to his own house. This way he'll be living with Okiya but will all this be something to help him in his fight with the BO? Or he'll still have to hide from them since Vodka remembers him clearly?

[Meramu]

This is killing me! I have to find out who put the poison! Is it a completely irrelevant character? Or is it Amuro? I doubt It has something to do with the BO though (bummer), Also guys, what is that on the table in the kidnapper's appartment in the other half of page 14? (other than the wine in the bucket) It looks like popcorn but that's too silly

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

spacespacespacespacespac


We know Takagi's location is somewhere scenic, but important to the culprit, and Takagi recognized where he was right away. He also thought it was appropriate for the criminal to set him up there. The police station is a good match. We also have a LOT number of roofshots of the station over the past two chapters.

The dropped badge could be Takagi trying to hint the location is police related. The book hasn't been found and no construction workers have come by, which makes sense because Takagi is on a satellite tower on a roof which is not regularly looked at.

The bomb which is quite possible under the board with the sheet over it is probably set to go off the day Natalie died.

[Yukiko Kudo]

I have a problem with this being suicide. If he poisoned his own wine, then why did he not first push the button and kill Takagi? Also it to me looks like he was surprised by the drink. If he had poisoned it, then why the face of surprise? Which again raises the question of who killed him and why?

  true i think one of the suspects poisoned him

I don't know which suspect would poison him, since Natalie's relatives died in an accident. It'd be interesting if Amuro did it but I don't see how and why would he do that.
Also, it's interesting all 3 women hanged themselves in the same day, dunno if it has any connection to the case. But since Conan will give us his deduction about the case next week, the case will probably settle with finding whereabouts and rescuing him in the last moment

while waiting all these days/weeks for the new chapter I was thinking of something: what if someone from the BO would give Conan the antidote for that drug and he goes back to his own house. This way he'll be living with Okiya but will all this be something to help him in his fight with the BO? Or he'll still have to hide from them since Vodka remembers him clearly?

I Guess he'll still be hiding from vodka.

[sstimson]

I have a problem with this being suicide. If he poisoned his own wine, then why did he not first push the button and kill Takagi? Also it to me looks like he was surprised by the drink. If he had poisoned it, then why the face of surprise? Which again raises the question of who killed him and why?

  true i think one of the suspects poisoned him

I don't know which suspect would poison him, since Natalie's relatives died in an accident. It'd be interesting if Amuro did it but I don't see how and why would he do that.
Also, it's interesting all 3 women hanged themselves in the same day, dunno if it has any connection to the case. But since Conan will give us his deduction about the case next week, the case will probably settle with finding whereabouts and rescuing him in the last moment

while waiting all these days/weeks for the new chapter I was thinking of something: what if someone from the BO would give Conan the antidote for that drug and he goes back to his own house. This way he'll be living with Okiya but will all this be something to help him in his fight with the BO? Or he'll still have to hide from them since Vodka remembers him clearly?

First who could? As far as we know, Sherry was crucial to the drug research. If you put her notes in a kinda shorthand, then it will take even more time to just get to the point she was at. And as far as we know the only BO(?) working on an antidote. For that to happen some one in the Bo (like Bourbon ) would need not only access to the drug data, but also find a way to get it to sherry without anyone else knowing. At the moment this while possible is very unlikely.

Second If the Bo did decide to help Conan that kind of order would have to come from the top and then Conan and maybe Sherry would no longer need to hide.

Back on topic. Nats family is dead, and I think that guy does not look like boyfriend material, so maybe the boyfriend. He might have assisted in KN Takagi and was killed to prevent the main brains behind the crime from being fingered by him.

[ten]

Spoiler: solution? Maybe?

spacespacespacespacespac


We know Takagi's location is somewhere scenic, but important to the culprit, and Takagi recognized where he was right away. He also thought it was appropriate for the criminal to set him up there. The police station is a good match. We also have a LOT number of roofshots of the station over the past two chapters.

The dropped badge could be Takagi trying to hint the location is police related. The book hasn't been found and no construction workers have come by, which makes sense because Takagi is on a satellite tower on a roof which is not regularly looked at.

The bomb which is quite possible under the board with the sheet over it is probably set to go off the day Natalie died.

I thought of the same thing given the number of exterior shots but after examining the structures closely it doesn't look like a match (scaffolding vs concrete)... I still think Takagi will end up being in a public place though ... and somewhere recognizable like you said (my only guess right now is that maybe that he is at the same school where she taught)

Also, could all the kids be on school break so no one at the school finds the badge? We are given in this case a specific dates and timeline so does anyone know if those dates are a holiday for school kids?

EDIT:
Another thought occurred to me: the crow landing on the rig (which is at the very top of the structure and exposed to the open air) easily shook the top camera when we haven't seen so before: doesn't that suggest that the scaffolding is not somewhere too windy -- so that rules out really tall buildings (as above) since they would surely? be regularly buffeted by strong winds being so high up.  

So the scaffolding isn't "too tall" and is not too high up ...