[768-770] Jeet Kune Do: Sera's Identity Speculation Thread

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Poll runs till May 25th, 2052, 6:24 pm

Eisuke
7
7%
Shuuichi Akai's little brother
3
3%
FBI member
0
No votes
CIA member
0
No votes
BO member
1
1%
Haibara's future hubby <3
6
6%
Bourbon
4
4%
Shuuichi Akai
4
4%
Vermouth
2
2%
Kaitou KID
11
11%
Just a new character
25
24%
The murderer
2
2%
Shinichi's new rival
22
21%
Anokata
5
5%
Can't decide
11
11%
 
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Akonyl wrote: no, Anokata is neither Genta, nor Mitsuhiko, nor Ayumi. Instead, they are all Anokata, who separated himself into the forms of three children, each carrying a part of his personality. Ayumi had his caring and emotional side (hey, even evil people have one), Mitsuhiko inherited his analytical/deductive side, and Genta houses his unending appetite for power.
[shadow=red,left]Sound like Harry Potter  :P[/shadow]
Katty008 wrote: One of the reasons I don't think it's Kaito is because if Kaito were really going out of his way to make contact with Conan, which this would be, he wouldn't bother to put on a wig just to make his hair look a little longer. If he were seeking out Conan, he would make it more obvious so that Conan knows who he's dealing with.
Another Reason is probably because KID is not a master of Jeet Kune Do, atleast it was not mention in MK or DC  ;)
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Katty008 wrote: One thing that's been bugging me this whole time though... why weren't they all kicked off the bus in the first place?! They're getting into a fistfight on a crowded bus! Really?
I AGREE
they were having a fight on a BUS
good thing they didn't fall over due to loss of balance nor did they hit anyone else
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New Character:
Pro:
+No known character knows Jeet Kune Do
+No one recognizes him
Con:
-How does he know Conan
-It would be an incredibly annoying move by Gosho to introduce a completely new character when he hasn't resolved any questions for several years. Not to say he wouldn't do that

Eisuke:
Pro:
+Knows Conan's identity
+Is intelligent enough to recognize the murder is such
+Is into Ran
+Has a reason to stay at a hotel, since he has just returned from abroad
Con:
-His appearance has changed quite a bit
-They don't recognize him
-It hasn't been hinted at that he knows Jeet Kune Do

Kid:
Pro:
+Knows Conan's identity
+Would flirt with Ran
+Is intelligent enough to recognize the murder as such
+Can disguise himself
Con:
-Has no reason to stay at a hotel
-Why would he be in disguise? What's his mission
-It has not been hinted at, neither in DC nor in MK, that Kid knows a martial art and he's not exactly the humble type

Bourbon:
Pro:
+Knows about Conan and has a reason to seek him out
+His true face hasn't been shown/he could be disguised by Vermouth. Wrong height though.
+Is intelligent enough to recognize the murder as such
Con:
-No reason to flirt with Ran
-No reason top stay at a hotel
-Wouldn't be in character; Bourbon is a bit arrogant, as confirmed by his smirking at Chianti. This character seems to be cheerful and unpretentious.

As to the flag on Conan's trousers: Interpreting this as a hint at Bourbon is grasping at straws (It would have to be the flag of Kentucky for that). It might mean that we're getting more ShinRan development, with respect to the London case, as the only characters with a known connection the UK are:
The Miyanos
James Black
The Glasses

I doubt any of them will appear in this arc
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Hakuba's half british so he's also got a link to the UK. I don't see how or why he would disguise himself though and I don't think he knows any martial arts. Anyway he seems more like the thinking, no action type (like Artemis Fowl if anyone's read that series  ;)) but it's worth a mention, perhaps it's his mysterious relative or something  >:D...
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I'm voting for the friend of Yoko's from her old band that was a total Shinichi stalker.  She fou~nd him.  (Or is scoping out her competition in cognito.)  I want Ran to have a rival as karma for the Araides and Eisukes Shinichi's been an adorable nervous, jealous wreck over, I want Ran defending her 'turf' in full action girl mode.  :P  Fun.
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BlackToffy wrote:
[shadow=red,left]Sound like Harry Potter  :P[/shadow]
OH MY GOD JKD IS HARRY POTTER!!!
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tsuanyue wrote: I'm voting for the friend of Yoko's from her old band that was a total Shinichi stalker.  She fou~nd him.   (Or is scoping out her competition in cognito.)  I want Ran to have a rival as karma for the Araides and Eisukes Shinichi's been an adorable nervous, jealous wreck over, I want Ran defending her 'turf' in full action girl mode.  :P  Fun.
I agree with this so much. I think it'd be hilarious to see a rival for Ran instead of the other way around. After all, to me Sonoko's line almost seemed to be implying that Ran could have some competition then 'BANG!' who appears?

Not to mention this would be especially funny/entertaining/annoying(depending on your view) if this rival was smart enough to see through Conan and be sworn to secrecy...in exchange for something of course. Like...

JKD Person: *after getting a confession/figuring it out* Hm...alright, I'll keep my mouth shut. But *glances to Ran in background* on one condition.
Ran: *approaches and says something along the lines of* Hey, are you two ready to leave yet?
JKD: Oh definitely *picks up Conan with a smile* Let's go Conan-kun~! <3

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sonoci wrote:
tsuanyue wrote: I'm voting for the friend of Yoko's from her old band that was a total Shinichi stalker.  She fou~nd him.  (Or is scoping out her competition in cognito.)  I want Ran to have a rival as karma for the Araides and Eisukes Shinichi's been an adorable nervous, jealous wreck over, I want Ran defending her 'turf' in full action girl mode.  :P  Fun.
I agree with this so much. I think it'd be hilarious to see a rival for Ran instead of the other way around. After all, to me Sonoko's line almost seemed to be implying that Ran could have some competition then 'BANG!' who appears?

Not to mention this would be especially funny/entertaining/annoying(depending on your view) if this rival was smart enough to see through Conan and be sworn to secrecy...in exchange for something of course. Like...

JKD Person: *after getting a confession/figuring it out* Hm...alright, I'll keep my mouth shut. But *glances to Ran in background* on one condition.
Ran: *approaches and says something along the lines of* Hey, are you two ready to leave yet?
JKD: Oh definitely *picks up Conan with a smile* Let's go Conan-kun~! <3

:P
Agreed! I must say, I'm kinda tired of Shinichi's rivals as Araide, Eisuke and other men who tried to attract Ran. If it's just a boy who will be a rival in deduction - okay, I can stand it, but another rival in love - HELL NO. I'm angry anyway that Ran hasn't confessed to Shinichi yet. I would be super fun, if it turns out that JKD person is a detective girl (REAL detective, I mean a girl who's really smart, fond of riddles and likes Holmes - so perfect match for Shinchi) who knew his secret. In DC story there's lack of detective girls and a lot of detective boys (and Detective Boys - :[ ), so it could be interesting to see new female character.
Another thing - I still don't understand why Conan blushed after JKD person's wink - could it be that it's really a girl? Maybe somebody from Shinichi's family (cousin who he hasn't seen since many years for example) or a girl he met long time ago... It's just too suspicious that he changed his mode from "You'd better leave Ran alone" to "Woah, he winked to me??" so fast.
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@Dus: Kid does not know Conan's identity in manga, only knows that he is a smart brat. Kid also has no interest in murder or crime other than stealing.

Here are what I think are real possibilities... (that would move the plot)

It is a completely new character meant to be a detective/romance rival to shinichi. Possibly making nice and helping in the end game against BO. (possibly has info)

FBI agent sent to replace Akai. This would explain why he can fight, and why he knows who Conan is. It would also explain why he is interested in the crime.

Bourbon, or an agent of bourbon. Possibly the latter since we know they have no problems using younger kids, could explain why he can fight, and explains why he knows conan.
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RedPoppy wrote:
sonoci wrote: I agree with this so much. I think it'd be hilarious to see a rival for Ran instead of the other way around. After all, to me Sonoko's line almost seemed to be implying that Ran could have some competition then 'BANG!' who appears?

Not to mention this would be especially funny/entertaining/annoying(depending on your view) if this rival was smart enough to see through Conan and be sworn to secrecy...in exchange for something of course. Like...

JKD Person: *after getting a confession/figuring it out* Hm...alright, I'll keep my mouth shut. But *glances to Ran in background* on one condition.
Ran: *approaches and says something along the lines of* Hey, are you two ready to leave yet?
JKD: Oh definitely *picks up Conan with a smile* Let's go Conan-kun~! I would be super fun, if it turns out that JKD person is a detective girl (REAL detective, I mean a girl who's really smart, fond of riddles and likes Holmes - so perfect match for Shinchi) who knew his secret. In DC story there's lack of detective girls and a lot of detective boys (and Detective Boys - :[ ), so it could be interesting to see new female character.
Another thing - I still don't understand why Conan blushed after JKD person's wink - could it be that it's really a girl? Maybe somebody from Shinichi's family (cousin who he hasn't seen since many years for example) or a girl he met long time ago... It's just too suspicious that he changed his mode from "You'd better leave Ran alone" to "Woah, he winked to me??" so fast.
While I do agree with all of this, the bolded points are especially what I've been thinking about. I mean, when I first saw the raws, I was convinced this JKD person was a girl, no doubt about it. Even now, I'm really doubting it's a boy, but maybe that's just me.

Anyway, with the girl being a real detective, this is really what I'm hoping for. I mean, how awesome would it be for her to not only win a deduction battle against Conan but then top it all off with, 'Oh, btw, I'm a girl' or something flirty? Conan's face would just be priceless. Aforementioned 'blackmail' would be awesome too. Not to mention if this person knew about Conan being Shinichi, it would be highly plausible they'd be somewhat main...which would mean a somewhat constant upfront challenge to Ran (who can't be beaten just by karate as they're basically equal skill) She'd [Ran] would even especially feel challenged seeing as the JKD person is...well, the JKD expert and (supposedly) smart like Shinichi. Even if it didn't move the plot *shakes fist at Gosho* it'd at least be interesting.

The wink was one of the main things that convinced me it was a girl. Ran's blush had me thinking at first it was just something about Shinichi the person said (while scanning the Chinese raw of course) while the wink made me think 'Ohoho~ Conan's blushing'. Of course, this would bring up the question: does he know it's a girl or is he just feeling the feminine vibe without realizing it? I'm suspicious about his mood change too.

Oh yes, the 'knew Shinichi long ago' thing. This is something that bugged me before this case, specifically long ago when Eri came in. It was pretty much stated that Eri hadn't seen Shinichi in 10ish years. I could see Shinichi not recognizing her and even Eri not recognizing him, but you'd think she'd get some deja vu vibe considering he looks exactly the same. I would've killed for a joke like: "Hey wait... *to Ran* Oh wow, dear, Shinichi didn't grow at all, did he?" Or something.

Anyway, we'll just have to wait for the next file for answers, I suppose. There's at least one thing I know Gosho's accomplished with this character though: lots and lots of speculation.

EDIT: Oh yeah, before this point is brought up against this theory, I think the JKD person's "You're my type of girl" to Ran could've been meant in a way like "You're my type of opponent". Just a thought~
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Gosho is fine! :D
He said that the new character's name is 'Sera' (if I spell the Kanji correctly -> 『世良ã€
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Sounds like a female name to me. >_> I'll never get the image of this 'guy' as a princess out of my mind now...
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Soreiyu wrote: Sounds like a female name to me. >_> I'll never get the image of this 'guy' as a princess out of my mind now...
You have obviously not seen the anime/read the manga Eyeshield 21. The main character's name is Kobayakawa Sena, and he is very much a boy.
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Soreiyu wrote: Sounds like a female name to me. >_> I'll never get the image of this 'guy' as a princess out of my mind now...
Thank you, you have just given me a lovely idea *snickers*  >:D
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Gosho is fine! :D
He said that the new character's name is 'Sera' (if I spell the Kanji correctly -> 『世良ã€
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