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I don't know what you said, Conan, but whatever it was was stupid. -A- Amuro totally suspects you now...
But don't worry! WE'VE GOT A KID CASE TO HELP COVER UP YOUR INTELLIG-OH WAIT
*sob* I'm not normally one that minds Kid cases, but the placement on this one is downright mean. Also: WHERE IS HEIJI? It's about that time again and he hasn't shown up
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Considering Kid's involvement in the last case, I don't find the placement too awkward. If Kaito Kid is indeed going to be completely inserted into the main plot, I'd rather see it now than in a year. Ever since file 800 there was a plot character in a case, so I don't see the Kid case breaking the line.
It's true, though, that Heiji's supposed appearance is already pretty stretched.
light haired is the murderer is hardly surprised after we sort the timeline. it interesting that she use ice to lock the door.
so yeah Amuro suspected conan. interesting how Gosho will use this situation to make conan life much harder since he cannot just randomly give hint to solve the case.
anyway next one is KID case. i wonder how this related to train case
And no, unless Amuro decides not to show up for the showdown between Kid and Conan, this is gonna get really damn interesting. Hell, just give me a scene with Conan getting hounded by the media while Amuro is there. I REALLY WANT TO SEE THAT.
(It's interesting that while Amuro didn't suspect Conan, I was all NO NO NO NO HE MUSTN'T KNOW, but know that he suspects him I'm all YES YES YES YES MORE AWKWARD SITUATIONS PLEASE. I'm weird.)
The thing is: Amuro's loyalties being questionable or not doesn't matter one bit, now that I think about it. Not even Vermouth's promise, if we're right about it being "don't involve Conan or Ran in your little stunts", matters at all either. Once Amuro finds out that CONAN AND AKAI ARE PARTNERS, shit is gonna hit the fan right then and there.
Amuro knows nothing about Kudou Shinichi, right? Unless someone would mention him, like Sonko teases Ran.
The other thing is in my head, would Conan ask Kid to help again,but to disguise as Shinichi this time? I know that in the manga Kid knows nothing about Conan=Shinichi.
Every time I want to give up on DC, it manages to bring me back, it brings me back feelings I know that I will never ever feel or live again.
Amuro knows nothing about Kudou Shinichi, right? Unless someone would mention him, like Sonko teases Ran.
The other thing is in my head, would Conan ask Kid to help again,but to disguise as Shinichi this time? I know that in the manga Kid knows nothing about Conan=Shinichi.
Spoiler:
Bad move. Remember that to the BO, Kudo Shinichi is dead. And if they ever doubt it, they have Vodka as eye witness; and he does remember what happened at Tropical Land.
Conan has been awfully lucky at keeping Shinichi's continued existence a secret, but this time he's on a much more delicate situation. IMO he should just call Ran, Sonoko, and Sera as Shinichi and say "HEY, IF ANYONE ASKS, I'M DEAD, NO EXCEPTIONS". It's the best bet he has.
Also, Kaito would likely tell Conan "hey, you're the one who owes me here" if Conan tries to convince him of helping out again.
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Jep, it is getting a bit uncomfortable for our little detective.
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- Amuro seems to know that he is the "real sleeping Kogoro". That doesn't mean he will deduce automaticly that he is Shinichi Kudo, since Conan is already known as a smart kid on the media. (Because he defeated Kaito Kid several times.) But he made Amuro curious and that is not good.
- Sera will most likely also start to investigate more intense to find out what really happend to her brother and we can be that her main target will be once again Conan.
- And there is Ran, who's suspicion might also increase again...
If Amuro gets involved with the Kaito Kid case, it will be awesome, since Kid knows him. Highly unlikely, I know(if Gosho will involve someone it will be Sera) but still it's cool to hope.
KnightusMaximus wrote:
Here's a page 16 English scan (temporary but... probably close to our Japanese-based final version thanks HADAA!).
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Spoiler: use spoiler tags
OMG eventhough Amuro and Vermouth are working closely together to try and find Sherry and as much as Vermouth wants Sherry dead she even LIED to Amuro that she's dead. What's more is that Amuro who we all know as 'Bourbon' is going to start investigating Conan from a very close distance. And I can't wait for the next KID File its going to be epic!
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I know it's fanservice and that fanservice doesn't have to make sense
But really Vermouth? Using your phone while in the tub? What if you dropped it?
That aside, I'm really curious what it was that Conan said (while his arms were up, ala the pose he has when Amuro is thinking of him) to make him sound suspicious. I mean, I'm aware that everything he would say would be a hint, but I have to know what it was about that one time (his arms being up) that stuck out.
...Yeah, making Kogoro look dumb wasn't one of your better decisions Conan... ...Not that he really had many other options .3.
KnightusMaximus wrote:
Here's a page 16 English scan (temporary but... probably close to our Japanese-based final version thanks HADAA!).
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It's surprising that Sherry, not Akai, was the reason Bourbon was hanging around Kogoro. Kir and Shiho had no clear connection before, unless something happened we don't know about, so I was wondering how Amuro came to that conclusion. Did he think Shiho being helped by Akai who is partnered with Kir?
sonoci wrote:
I know it's fanservice and that fanservice doesn't have to make sense
But really Vermouth? Using your phone while in the tub? What if you dropped it?
Stop and I were discussing at #DCspoilers how Vermouth is gradually tending towards appearing in less clothes. I'm not sure how it can go more downhill from here, but I am sure Gosho will manage. :-\
It's surprising that Sherry, not Akai, was the reason Bourbon was hanging around Kogoro. Kir and Shiho had no clear connection before, unless something happened we don't know about, so I was wondering how Amuro came to that conclusion. Did he think Shiho being helped by Akai who is partnered with Kir?
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IIRC, Gin noticed that the bug on his Porsche and the bug on Kir was the same, that's how he got suspicious of Kogoro and Sherry being connected (suspicious enough to want to snipe him, even), and let's also remember Gin's suspicion of Kogoro wasn't shaken off even when Akai showed up conveniently.
IMO, the files the BO has on Akai would likely point out how Kogoro, Akai, and Sherry are most likely connected (which, in a way, is absolutely right! They're just missing the very thing that connects the 3: Conan). If my hunch is correct, then that's the thing that motivated Bourbon to investigate Kogoro.
And now, he's arrived at the final step on his deduction: Conan. If he figures out he's the one pulling the strings behind the Sleeping Kogoro act, then that's it. He'll have solved the mystery, even if only superficially. Then he'd only have to dig a little bit deeper and find out a little bit more, but I don't suppose Vermouth would let that development go any further. Hell, Bourbon himself might notice Vermouth is trying to keep the Mouri Detective Agency out of trouble after a while. My guess is that a confrontation between Bourbon and Vermouth is totally guaranteed.
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
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Stop and I were discussing at #DCspoilers how Vermouth is gradually tending towards appearing in less clothes. I'm not sure how it can go more downhill from here, but I am sure Gosho will manage.
Next would be a shower scene. It wouldn't make any sense but fanservice never does.
Also, well, it could simply be a hotel room. Judging by the money Vermouth may have because of her two Vineyard identities, not to mention that man's wealth as well, it might be a penthouse.
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It's surprising that Sherry, not Akai, was the reason Bourbon was hanging around Kogoro. Kir and Shiho had no clear connection before, unless something happened we don't know about, so I was wondering how Amuro came to that conclusion. Did he think Shiho being helped by Akai who is partnered with Kir?
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I think that after 2 times having approached the FBI, Bourbon seemed to be sure that Akai's dead. Therefore his only concern when checking Kogoro was to find Sherry, not Akai anymore. Since in his logic, if Akai's death was true, then the only one left that might have some connection with Sherry was Kogoro (because of Conan's bug). Had he done "Sherry hunting" first by approaching Kogoro, I think both Sherry and Akai would have been his target.
However Sera's appearance might have changed his direction, and he decided to give a try and disguise as SA in order to test her.
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It's surprising that Sherry, not Akai, was the reason Bourbon was hanging around Kogoro. Kir and Shiho had no clear connection before, unless something happened we don't know about, so I was wondering how Amuro came to that conclusion. Did he think Shiho being helped by Akai who is partnered with Kir?
Spoiler:
I think that after 2 times having approached the FBI, Bourbon seemed to be sure that Akai's dead. Therefore his only concern when checking Kogoro was to find Sherry, not Akai anymore. Since in his logic, if Akai's death was true, then the only one left that might have some connection with Sherry was Kogoro (because of Conan's bug). Had he done "Sherry hunting" first by approaching Kogoro, I think both Sherry and Akai would have been his target.
However Sera's appearance might have changed his direction, and he decided to give a try and disguise as SA in order to test her.
Spoiler:
Bourbon did ask Vermouth for Akai's file after the train incident. He began casting doubt on his death by then. Moreover, it would only be a matter of time before he realizes that the connection between Kogoro and FBI is Conan. And if he looks back into Kogoro's history, the time he became famous also happened to be when Shinichi disappeared.
thanks HADAA!).
