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Since the Karasuma thing isn't 100% for sure, arguably the most important development of the last chapter is Yusaku and Yukiko returning to Japan for good. Do you think it's possible Conan'll go live with them from this point on instead of with Ran and Kogoro? Because THAT would be huge (or, in the words of the great master, YUUUUUGE). Will Okiya have to move out? If so, where will be live? If not, where will Yusaku and Yukiko live? Will the three/four of them just share a place? Would that be wise?
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I don't think Conan will live with them. Despite Conan's parents being back, I think they will still play a limited role, since it's Detective Conan and not Detective Yusaku. Yusaku would take over the story if he's given too much of a role since he's smarter, more experienced and has a lot more resources than Conan.
Also, don't forget that the Kudos are filthy rich (like 0.01% tier rich if not higher), so they likely have multiple houses across Japan and the world.
Someone in another forum just noticed that "time is money" is somehow an anagram
for Wakita Kanenori.
No Joke.
Well, I guess its game over then... wtf....
[ ] Yonehara = Rum
[ ] Kuroda = Amuros Boss
[x] MG = Mrs. Akai
[x] Haneda = Brother Akai
[ ] Rumi = Asaka
[ ] Wakita = Bo-Member Whiskey (aka the RAT)
[ ] Iori = just a butler
dccd wrote:
Warning, superhuge spoiler about Rums identity:
Spoiler:
Someone in another forum just noticed that "time is money" is somehow an anagram
for Wakita Kanenori.
No Joke.
Well, I guess its game over then... wtf....
Spoiler:
Time is Money is "Toki wa kanenari" in Japanese
scramble the letters
Toki wa kanenari - > Kanenori Wakita
this is either a cryptic message to Bourbon, or a catch phrase used by the person in question
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I hope that I can find someway to contribute to the community even if it's just random crack theories and looking things up for people who can't find the information they need.
dccd wrote:
Warning, superhuge spoiler about Rums identity:
Spoiler:
Someone in another forum just noticed that "time is money" is somehow an anagram
for Wakita Kanenori.
No Joke.
Well, I guess its game over then... wtf....
Spoiler:
Time is Money is "Tokei wa kanenari" in Japanese
scramble the letters
Tokei wa kanenari - > Kanenori Wakita
this is either a cryptic message to Bourbon, or a catch phrase used by the person in question
Spoiler:
Since Rum and Wakita are rivals inside the BO (just a theory) maybe he is in a clash against Wakita on who will discover Shinichi first¿?
dccd wrote:
Warning, superhuge spoiler about Rums identity:
Spoiler:
Someone in another forum just noticed that "time is money" is somehow an anagram
for Wakita Kanenori.
No Joke.
Well, I guess its game over then... wtf....
Spoiler:
Time is Money is "Tokei wa kanenari" in Japanese
scramble the letters
Tokei wa kanenari - > Kanenori Wakita
this is either a cryptic message to Bourbon, or a catch phrase used by the person in question
Spoiler:
Since Rum and Wakita are rivals inside the BO (just a theory) maybe he is in a clash against Wakita on who will discover Shinichi first¿?
Spoiler:
Or Wakita used the name "Wakita kanenori" based on the that idiom "Tokiwa Kanenari" that he frequently uses, and Rum used that same idiom in his native language.
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I'm simply speechless by this non-stop bombshell revelations and developments. This has me more worried about Gosho's health, and hoping he is fine.
I agree with what many has said. Karasuma Renya being revealed like this a bit too fast paced and straightforward, and unless Gosho is indeed worried of his future and wanted to hurry up with the developments, this development does give off mixed signals about how true it is. Karasuma Renya is for sure confirmed to be connected to the BO at this point, and he is confirmed to at least have been a boss when he was alive(if he is dead). Anything regarding the current Boss is still up in the air though (but Karasuma Renya is now among the top candidates in the Boss list).
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DC's Awesome Qoutes:
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common'' Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman'' Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...'' Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself'' Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Firstly, go back and put spoiler tags over your last two posts—if for no other reason than just to be safe.
Secondly, I'm increasingly inclined to think that this theory is actually correct. More information is still needed, though.
Okay, fixed and done!
Thank you.
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Has anybody noticed that there's a shogi piece lying on the table next to Rumi? Of course I have no idea what is written on it but it pretty much confirms what was in Rumi's pocket for me or at least that she's connected to shogi.
-And this chapter was really surprising. But it does seem like it was a rushed decision, to reveal a possible identity of Anokata. I don't think we had any build up for this, it just came out of nowhere.
-Another thing, am I the only one that thinks it's weird that Wakita and Kuroda have the same phone model? I would say that they (Gosho/whoever drew this) didn't think too much about it, but few panels below we see that Amuro has a different model. I don't have any idea if that could mean something though. However all of the phones except Amuro's look very similar. Maybe I'm just thinking too much.
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Well, that does look like the writing of 'promoted bishop' if you enlarge the picture~ compare the writing on shogi piece with this http://i.imgur.com/mBpnmrU.png
"one should stick with one's original plan" (初志貫徹 shoshi kantetsu)
Wow such development in one chapter. We get to see the real stuff in Rumi's pocket, a Shogi piece.(not glass shard, since from its inception I thoght it'll give Rumi only a bloody A##) It's an UMA and is the stuff which was in Kohji's palm, the original dying message. Toki Wa Kanenari -> Wakita Kanenori (So an Anagram in Romaji) plus using cryptic language and Idiom and given the theme of this chapter I would say He's Tsutomu. For Kuroda I'm convinced that He's Asaka.(given how he smiles when he saw that desperate attempts being made to make the world think that it wasn't Shinichi. And my Theory was correct too(another one who is interested in Shinichi besides the 3; Rum it was, Points for me as I guess.) On Carasuma front it's a message to the readers that Rum=!Asaka anymore, and BO are very jumpy about the letters "U MASCARA", which is a single name or is very close to a single name. BTW It can be interpreted as A UMA SCAR, to the bruise in Haneda's palm. Personally I think the mirror just broke in the confrontation, somebody in order to make the broken mirror look like a dying message opened the tap. Someone trying to hide the real clue(UMA Piece) possibly Rumi.
Who is the most known "Tim" in the world currently?
Google -> Tim Cook (Boss of Apple)
Cook?
Do we have a cook as a suspect?
There you go..
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Well of course! The sushi chef! Gotta keep him close if you want to enjoy freshly made sushi and have Bourbon the waiter serve them up to your table while making you wonderful sandwich along with fresh coffee. Makes me wonder if the boss is actually a driver, a chauffeur of race\sports cars considering there was an episode: 'The Witch Enshrouded by Fog' about a Silver Witch, a woman who drives a White FD car, and challenges people in a drag race. It is said that when the witch drifts, the tire makes a sound that sound like a woman screaming..." Of course this is not to be taken seriously...
"one should stick with one's original plan" (初志貫徹 shoshi kantetsu)
Dunno about you guys, but if Wakita really happens to be Rum, I will be more then disappointed.
It really would be the
"Today the second in command appears"
"Another disciple"
" copypaste Bourbon-Arc"
-guy.
Whoever will finish up as Rum I think most of us wont be that shocked anymore since we pretty much had
any possible character up the debate atleast once.
Anyways, this kind of lame copypaste-bs, it would really be a unworthy ending to the last years.
Even though the journey is the destination one might expect atleast a little bit of quality.
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I really must say, since he showed up, I expected him to be revealed as Goshos fake-Rum
(Bo-member, but not Rum / Rums helping hand) with him uniting all of the descriptions.
But due to the SMS and the rush of various reveals im really not sure about this anymore.
Well, lets hope the best.
[ ] Yonehara = Rum
[ ] Kuroda = Amuros Boss
[x] MG = Mrs. Akai
[x] Haneda = Brother Akai
[ ] Rumi = Asaka
[ ] Wakita = Bo-Member Whiskey (aka the RAT)
[ ] Iori = just a butler
Japanese people on twitter are hypothesising mitsuhiko = shrunken karasuma
I don't necessarily believe it to be Mitsuhiko, but I'm buying into the idea that Karasuma is disguised as someone Conan knows. Someone should do a study on which recurring characters Haibara has never seen and thus never sensed the BO aura from
