[Files 775-777] Target on Tape

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Who are the kidnappers and what were they after?

Gin and Vodka - in Vodka's car. They were after Haibara and mistook Ayumi for her
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Two random B.O. members who were after Haibara and mistook Ayumi for her
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Two random criminals who were after the carpet, but took Ayumi as well for some reason
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Two random criminals who were after what was inside the vase, but took Ayumi as well for some reason
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Two random criminals who wanted to kidnap the "girl who was living with Agasa" in order to demand a ransom
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Two criminals who were referred to in Chiba's First Love Case
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Two criminals who had something to do with a former case in which Haibara wore those clothes, and for some reason, they are after her, but they mistook Ayumi for her
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Billy and Fusae have gone wild!
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THESE TWO!
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Toichi wrote: I think Ayumi's kidnapping is just a  red herring as the real target is that rag. I don't know how they got the info or how they knew that the rag is expensive(as a reason why they stole it). But from what I have seen so far it is leading to a BO case.
But wasn't the vase the only one in the video. How would they have known about the rug?
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1Kaito wrote:
Toichi wrote: I think Ayumi's kidnapping is just a  red herring as the real target is that rag. I don't know how they got the info or how they knew that the rag is expensive(as a reason why they stole it). But from what I have seen so far it is leading to a BO case.
But wasn't the vase the only one in the video. How would they have known about the rug?
If you pay more attention, the rug is also on the video, Ai probably recorded from a higher position.
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dk wrote:
1Kaito wrote:
Toichi wrote: I think Ayumi's kidnapping is just a  red herring as the real target is that rag. I don't know how they got the info or how they knew that the rag is expensive(as a reason why they stole it). But from what I have seen so far it is leading to a BO case.
But wasn't the vase the only one in the video. How would they have known about the rug?
If you pay more attention, the rug is also on the video, Ai probably recorded from a higher position.
Anyway the target is not Haibara since other than BO nobody is interested in her.

Like what dk it is pretty much recorded. And I am fairly certain the target is the rug.  In next chapter much to the surprise of the detective boys she will be back telling them that she was released or that Okiya Subaru who was also watching that car probably would give  a hint or two regarding the kidnapping.
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And a poll is up  ;D

I do wonder though if the clothes have something to do with it. In what cases have we seen Haibara wearing that jacket? iirc, she wore that in the mysterious passanger case with Araide/Vermouth and Jodie on the bus.

But yeah, as it seems, this isn't going to be a B.O. case. Since every little clue matters, both the vase and the carpet might have something to do with it.

Assuming Okiya is Akai, I wonder how he feels about being such a stalker.......after kids no less  :-X
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And I think it is obvious now (for better or for worse), that AyuAi is official! One party obviously feels "something" for the other, so this one qualifies!  :P
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OH. I didn't notice before. Conan> i will go get a meat(yea right, hehe.)

then on the next page> okiya stalking them, then leaving.

Maybe they went to do something else?


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oh. @Edit: on the poll i voted : Two random criminals who were after what was inside the vase, but took Ayumi as well for some reason.

[Kor - fixed the edit for you. The way to edit your post is to click on "modify" which is in the right corner, above your post]

OH, Sorry... I'm used to "Edit" instead of modify. Thanks ^^
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The thread leading to this case already begin back to File 765, Ran sleeps over at school for preparing karate championship, at the same time the proprietor of Poirot invited by the neighborhood association going to an onsen, also the same day while Conan and Kogoro go eating Yama Ramen.

One month later, a sign changed from "So Good, It’s to Die For - Ramen Ogura" to “For Real! Ramen So Wicked, It’s To Die for - Ramen Oguraâ€
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Spoiler:
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It's not the same car.  But then again Billy said they would meet again.
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RedPoppy wrote:
Abs. wrote: Here's something no one has mentioned yet that I thought was odd about the case:

For no real apparent reason, Conan goes off on his own to "buy the meat"
Yeah, and he didn't buy it after all. XD It seems like Conan went off and then came back to the others, but they didn't have any shopping bag in market. :P
Huh. No shopping bag IS indeed strange. I wanted to say that Conan didn't know about the meeting with Sera nor Haibara's appearance on the internet back then, but the lack of meat afterwards still makes the situation weird. Then what did he do? Paying Okiya a visit doesn't sound too far-fetched I guess, but why? Did he have any reason to? And Okiya followed the kids immediately after Conan left, isn't that a bit too fast? There's no decent reason for Conan to send him after the group either.
Other weird things:
1) Ai in Professor's glassses - highly improbable. I don't think you can see person who's holding camera in someone's glasses (normal glasses), not that clearly at least.
I'm not sure about videos, but it's pretty easy to get such a reflection while making photos. You really have to beware for any possible reflections, unless you intentionally want one. It's got a lot to do with angles and stuff. I once made a photo of our pet cat from a pretty close distance, and if you just zoomed in on it without enhancing the photo, you could (obviously a bit distorted because of the eye shape) see me and my surrounding environment reflected in one of his eyes. My face was covered by a digital camera 'though. ^^
2) Ayumi wasn't hurt after spilling the curry on her. Omg, this curry should have been hot as hell and she just took a shower?!
It's a kid's manga, what do you expect? Gosho drawing nasty burns and later on scars on her?
3) Genta's talk about Sera's breast - O_o Since when children became that insolent?
Uhhh ... you've never heard such things come out of a kid's mouth? It's mostly innocently intended. My own nephew asked me what those "big bulges" were on my chest when he was about 4-5 years or so. Nothing weird about it. Isn't it already kind of a definition for a little kid as someone who can flatly say the hard truths with an innocent face? Insolence is their second nature.
Funny moment - Ayumi got Ai's clothes and was like "Yey~!! Ai's scent~!!" XD Dunno what to think about it.
I can understand her excitement for wearing the clothes of a friend as a small kid, but talking about her scent ... That was kinda creeping me out. Like the member in this thread who said the scene of Ayumi taking a bath was "spicy". I mean, SERIOUSLY? It's a small kid taking a bath! Please explain to me what's so spicy about THAT. Not that I will understand it any better, but hey.
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It's not the same car.  But then again Billy said they would meet again.
Nah. I don't believe Agasa's first love would suddenly taser him, and kidnap one of his "grandchildren". Unless she's mad with jealousy and is trying to make him get together with her. IF they have something to do with the BO-FBI-CIA triangle, I'd place my bets on them working together with Akai.

The car is pretty noticeable 'though, in the sense that it's drawn very detailed. Also, it doesn't seem to be a normal car either. Well, I have no knowledge about car exteriors or brands, so maybe it's just me.
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i also think that the carpet is worth more than the vase. the vase ay be quite worthless, actually. but how did the robbers/kidnappers knew that the carpet was also in hakase's possession? it was't shown in the video... or maybe it was a spur of the moment thing

"oh f**k it this vase is worthless but look at that carpet isn't that worth millions?"

maybe the liquid spilling on it had something to do with them finding out it may be worth a lot.

and ayumi..... was collateral damage  :|

"hey we can make a profilt selling this kid in the black market"

no i kid. conan's theory that they may just disguise as movers makes sense, actually. but it can be that they wanted the carpet and kidnapped ayumi bec she saw their faces
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dk wrote:
1Kaito wrote:
Toichi wrote: I think Ayumi's kidnapping is just a  red herring as the real target is that rag. I don't know how they got the info or how they knew that the rag is expensive(as a reason why they stole it). But from what I have seen so far it is leading to a BO case.
But wasn't the vase the only one in the video. How would they have known about the rug?
If you pay more attention, the rug is also on the video, Ai probably recorded from a higher position.
Ah now I see it
Kor wrote:
Spoiler:
And I think it is obvious now (for better or for worse), that AyuAi is official! One party obviously feels "something" for the other, so this one qualifies!  :P
Spoiler:
That "something" seems like a sick obession/fetish
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queen misanagi wrote: i also think that the carpet is worth more than the vase. the vase ay be quite worthless, actually. but how did the robbers/kidnappers knew that the carpet was also in hakase's possession? it was't shown in the video... or maybe it was a spur of the moment thing

"oh f**k it this vase is worthless but look at that carpet isn't that worth millions?"

maybe the liquid spilling on it had something to do with them finding out it may be worth a lot.

and ayumi..... was collateral damage  :|

"hey we can make a profilt selling this kid in the black market"

no i kid. conan's theory that they may just disguise as movers makes sense, actually. but it can be that they wanted the carpet and kidnapped ayumi bec she saw their faces
Maybe that carpet is the evidence to some crime they committed earlier, something they sold without noticing. When they saw Agasa showing it in the video they got afraid and wanted to get rid of it.
Ayumi saw their faces, so since they had to be afraid that they might be recognized (for example by Agasa remembering that they were the ones who sold it which would show where they lived when they sold in on the flee market since they probably lived nearby) they had to take her with them.
This would also explain why they weren't afraid of possible coffee strains when putting Ayumi into the rug despite her being soaked in coffee. Poor Ayumi, first splashed by hot curry, now pressed down in a puddle of hot coffee. And also abduced to make things worse.

Well, we will have Conan save her for sure. They question is how much Okiya and Sera get involved in her rescue and if they will meet face-to-face.
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@schillok.
Ayumi is in love with Ai.. so it went into Yuri path.. not harem path!!!

btw.. dont you guys feel strange that Sera keep pointing her nose around Conan life?
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xpon wrote: btw.. dont you guys feel strange that Sera keep pointing her nose around Conan life?
Because no one has ever done that before, right?  :P
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i mean... she is just a normal student who like to play detective..... but why she look like she is obsessed with Conan?
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xpon wrote: she is just a normal student who like to play detective.....
Says who?
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