GinRei wrote:
Didn't happen. Try again.
Also, pretty sure even the FBI needs evidence to just abduct someone. They can't just flash their badge and take whoever they want. Not in the story, at least.
El Huesudo II wrote:
sstimson wrote:However, in this case, that is not true. Attempted Murder is a crime. Holding someone at gun point is a crime. There is only one good reason to maybe let Bourbon go - to help the BO believe that Sherry is Dead. But Vermouth KNOWS that is not true and it is possible (How much did Vermouth tell Bourbon) Bourbon also knows that is a lie.
Attempted murder is a crime, yes; however, no one should know what transpired in the train after the fire, apart from the ones involved. Not to mention there's no evidence to prove what happened; at most, they could surmise someone faked a fire and blew up the cargo.
And: Vermouth knows Sherry is alive, but can't say it. She has very powerful reasons not to say it. And Bourbon shouldn't know unless Vermouth told him, and Vermouth has no reason to tell him.
You're kinda confused here. The one who appeared as Akai was Akai himself, Kid just disguised as Sherry.
sstimson wrote:In this case the BO moved, and revealed all - A move in my mind very out of character. A better way IMO is to make haibara 'disappear' after the train has arrived by using the getting 'separated in the crowd'.
No one in the BO knows Haibara is Sherry, except for Vermouth, who can't reveal this fact.
sstimson wrote:While letting Bourbon go might seem like a good idea, the BO already know that Conan gang BUG everything
The BO has absolutely no idea about Conan and his team, what makes you think otherwise? The fact that Conan is unknown to the BO is part of the driving force of the show so far.
Also: There's no indication that Bourbon suspects Conan.
Kor wrote:
@Sstimson - the FBI can't just go to the police and say "We need the blonde woman and the metrosexual dude". Remember that they don't even operate legally in Japan. Not to mention that the police can't just take people without any evidence.
Questions might be asked, but the probability that the local police is going to get involved isn't high. Conan has the upper hand, so there's no reason to do anything rush. If anyone in the B.O. (besides Vermouth) knows that Bourbon worked as Kogoro's apprentice, if anything happens to Bourbon, where do you think the B.O. is going to look first?
ShinRan4ver wrote:
Thanks a lot El Huesudo II and Kor for agreeing with me on how police can't just arrest Bourbon/Amuro without evidence, and for the entire FBI cell(who DO NOT HAVE AUTHORIZATION from Japanese police to operate in Japan to begin with) to show up and corner them at the station would be silly. What evidence do you have of Amuro holding Sherry at gun point? First of all "Sherry"=KID and can't show up to testify, second Amuro definitely tossed the gun off the train(he be silly not to) after the explosion so you don't have evidence on that front. Give me one solid evidence for the police to hold either Amuro or Vermouth(don't say gun possession, they definitely already took care of that before undergoing police questioning)? Plus Kor already mentioned, if something happens to Bourbon, the first place BO looks at is Mouri Detective Agency, way too dangerous for Conan to even try that idea.
Lets tackle all of you at once.
First. Why I am almost sure that KID appeared as Akai - Timing. After this a few seconds, and then the car they were in blew up. Remember the Train they are on is moving over a bridge at the time. You can not just jump off, unless you flew like KID. Also note no one left by taking the route Bourbon took to escape. If it was Akai then he is either dead for real; he was never there, Bourbon only thought he saw him; or IMO KID appeared as him. KID escaped but barely. He can fly off the train. Again if Akai, how he get away?
Second. You suggest Bourbon does not know about Haibara. Why not. Vermouth, even though she is sure she is right, is not going to let a chance like this get away. If Haibara did not appear like Sherry, you think that Vermouth did not have a backup plan? I sure she also told Bourbon to grab Haibara if she should appear. After all Haibara might have been cut off from the drug, and even though she can not act as Sherry, she would stiill try to end the BO's threat to her friends. Look at the haunted ship if you want proof.
Third. With Yukiko being there, we can be sure Conan called in the troops, and that would include the FBI. I almost sure that while they are behind the scene, they know what is going on. We know Conan was listening in to His Mom and Vermouth. He might have made a conference call to Jodie so she call also listen in. After all that call must be recorded if his mom were to have been shot. I can not see him or his mom take such chances without being very prepared. Again Look at the haunted ship if you want proof.
Fourth. The FBI can ask the Japanese Police to detail suspects through OFFICIAL CHANNELS. BO members are without question terrorist. That kind of crime is international and if Washington ask for Tom and Jane to be detained, why do you think that Tom and Jane will not be detained. All the FBI needs to do is talk to their higher ups in Washington to make that happen. I sure that Vermouth is wanted by the FBI and the Japanese police for Child Endangerment, Shooting a officer in the line of duty, and Kidnapping. Remember Jodie was told to tell the Police she got caught up in a kidnapping case. Vermouth being arrested is No problem.
Fourth A. Bourbon threatening Kidnapping should also have been recorded. After all another conference call almost for sure to have happened with KID as well. Why send KID into such danger unless to make sure that if KID gets killed, his murdered is caught. That should also be grounds for detainment.
The question becomes will the FBI take advantage of having two BO members in Police custody, or will they allow such dangerous people to escape?
And finally this question. This whole train case screams FBI trap. Why would the BO walk willing into such a trap? If I was BO, I would find it funny that after a long while, Sherry by chance just shows up with a special train ring. Yes It might be our best chance to get her, but I make sure my agents know it is likely they are walking into a trap and to be extra careful. Evidence of this is shown by Gin and Vodka taking a hands off role during an very important assignment.
