* theories about Okiya - Akai- scar Akai- Tooru Amuro -Bou

[User 4869]

No one want to use google translate if they can use the language themselve. As non-native English I encounter some of word-to-word translate and can understand them sometime (just sometime lol). So go easy on her.

[M.Holmes]

I personally think this is a refreshing theory, and while I don't exactly believe it's the correct one, I'd much prefer it to be over the Okiya-is-Akai theory. I liked Akai, don't get me wrong, but the way he went out was perfect and I think his story should have ended there.

I don't know, maybe I'm just tired of the overuse of death-faking in plots. I'm 99% sure it won't come to pass, but I think that Okiya being the brother Miyano and Bourbon would be a much better development. Him joining forces and becoming Conan and Ai's 'mole' in the BO would be great plot development seeing as, realistically, Conan couldn't possibly hope to take down Gin let alone Anokata and the entire BO without double agents on the inside (like Bourbon, Vermouth, Kir).

[doublemoonlight]

please if you are making something important as plot theory, please for the love of Gallifrey, write senseable sentence. I am actually having a headache just from trying to make sence what you are saying and now I feel like I've been on shakey boat. Gosh I am by no means grammer nazi but even I can't stand way you write.

[PT]

please if you are making something important as plot theory, please for the love of Gallifrey, write senseable sentence. I am actually having a headache just from trying to make sence what you are saying and now I feel like I've been on shakey boat. Gosh I am by no means grammer nazi but even I can't stand way you write.

Just dropping into say 1) English is obviously not cute ran's first language, so maybe go a little easier on her? (assuming her by username, could be wrong); and 2) Grammar Nazi is kind of a yucky term Making light of Hitler and his regime is not a good thing.


on topic:
As for the theory itself - if I'm understanding it correctly... you think Bourbon might be Ai's brother? Interesting thought. If this isn't what you're trying to say then I think I'm confused.

[Wakarimashita]

I agree with PT. It's certainly very imperfect english but most of it is still somewhat understandable. I think we should be tolerant towards those who's first or even second language obviously isn't english and who, despite that, take the time to come and share their thoughts and theories with us...

[doublemoonlight]

@ cute ran: from conan wiki : Okiya is probably NOT a third party or new character
Okiya is unlikely to be a third party because he knows about Conan's tracking glasses and the detective badges.[38] Conan has never used the tracking glasses in front of Okiya. A third party would not be privy to Conan's gadgets. The mechanism to operate Conan's glasses isn't obvious, so only someone who knows about their existence beforehand could recognize the glasses at Agasa's and figure out how to activate the tracking function. Shuichi Akai could have heard about the glasses in several ways. The first source is when James Black was kidnapped while he had Ayumi's detective badge. Conan used the badge to track down James Black. James was waiting to meet with Akai before he was kidnapped and drove away with Akai after he was rescued. Akai could have also heard about the tracking function from Jodie when Conan chased after Kir to prevent an assassination. Finally, Akai may also know about them from when Haibara borrowed the glasses to find Conan at the shipping yards at the climax of the Vermouth arc. He was present at the time and would have seen Haibara wearing them even though she has never worn glasses when Akai had seen her previously.

according to this theory it kinda removes Okiya being Ai's brother. If He was isolated from the word ( apart from BO) and never made any contect untill his mission. Speaking of which if he never made contect with her sister and lived in world of BO why would he care for his sister. Unless you are saying Okiya is well trained BO agent who's real motive is to kill Haibara, you got to remember at this point nearly all members of BO ( apart from Vermouth but that is only because of her deal with Conan during her arc) think of Haibara as traitor. If he had been isolated from Haibara's family enough so that haibara herself could not recongise him, Why on earth would he feel some sort of kindness to haibara?

[cute Ran]

I'm sorry My language English Bad ,  

Finally, What I want  access to it is

okiya = Bourbon=  Brother Ai = A good person wants to protect Ai from organization

hates Akai  Because it is the cause in death  Akemi    

Akai = death !!!!

Please treat me well !!

Put this topic Because I feel angry from theory okiya = Akai  This is not true !! okiya and Aki  Different character

[doublemoonlight]

here is thing : anything is possible in world of DC.

seriously if Gosho all of sudden decided to put rainbow unicorns in DC, it can be considered true.

and you just ignored my previous post.

here is another point even Gin who actually would be happy to believe akai is dead ( remember they HATE each other) acutally bothers to question this and even goses as far as holding to gun point. Also if akai died who is scar Akai?  I just want you to know that anything is possible in this world. You need to give check some credit. She did her research and if you read it and read recent manga, there is some hints that even haibara begins to think that Akai is Okiya.

[cute Ran]

here is thing : anything is possible in world of DC.

seriously if Gosho all of sudden decided to put rainbow unicorns in DC, it can be considered true.

and you just ignored my previous post.

here is another point even Gin who actually would be happy to believe akai is dead ( remember they HATE each other) acutally bothers to question this and even goses as far as holding to gun point. Also if akai died who is scar Akai?  I just want you to know that anything is possible in this world. You need to give check some credit. She did her research and if you read it and read recent manga, there is some hints that even haibara begins to think that Akai is Okiya.

This is not a hint , This  "  Shading " From Gosho  To make us believe Okaya =  Akai while Akai  in fact  is dead

Do you understand  ;D

[KainTheVampire]

I'm pretty sure we'd know if there was a brother
And the reason Akemi died was because she wanted to leave with her sister (and leaving at all) , I don't think they care if she'd go to Akai or not so he has nothing to do with it

[Citan]

here is thing : anything is possible in world of DC.

seriously if Gosho all of sudden decided to put rainbow unicorns in DC, it can be considered true.

and you just ignored my previous post.

here is another point even Gin who actually would be happy to believe akai is dead ( remember they HATE each other) acutally bothers to question this and even goses as far as holding to gun point. Also if akai died who is scar Akai?  I just want you to know that anything is possible in this world. You need to give check some credit. She did her research and if you read it and read recent manga, there is some hints that even haibara begins to think that Akai is Okiya.

This is not a hint , This  "  Shading " From Gosho  To make us believe Okaya =  Akai while Akai  in fact  is dead

Do you understand  ;D

You still didn't answer the question about Scar Akai. If you're right and Okiya is not Akai then Scar Akai is the real deal and is alive. This invalidates your "Akai is dead" theory. It's unlikely someone else is doing the "Scar Akai" disguise for another reason, because the only people we've been introduced to with reason to perform such a deception would be either the Black Organization (To make sure Akai is really dead, and to draw out any of his remaining allies) or Akai himself (To draw out the Black Organization). In short either Scar Akai or Okiya must be Akai, and therefore Akai is actually alive.

[doublemoonlight]

here is thing : anything is possible in world of DC.

seriously if Gosho all of sudden decided to put rainbow unicorns in DC, it can be considered true.

and you just ignored my previous post.

here is another point even Gin who actually would be happy to believe akai is dead ( remember they HATE each other) acutally bothers to question this and even goses as far as holding to gun point. Also if akai died who is scar Akai?  I just want you to know that anything is possible in this world. You need to give check some credit. She did her research and if you read it and read recent manga, there is some hints that even haibara begins to think that Akai is Okiya.

This is not a hint , This  "  Shading " From Gosho  To make us believe Okaya =  Akai while Akai  in fact  is dead

Do you understand  ;D

errr you mean Gosho faked haibara's memory to mislead us. If it is true... how the slag is he going to explan it to us.  and you ignored my post about Gin and scar Akai >.>

[ProfParanoia]

2) Grammar Nazi is kind of a yucky term Making light of Hitler and his regime is not a good thing.

Agreed, it always struck me as really Khmer Rude.

@Theory: Do we need the lost brother plot with Ai when it's most likely being done with Sera.

[Stopwatch]

2) Grammar Nazi is kind of a yucky term Making light of Hitler and his regime is not a good thing.

Agreed, it always struck me as really Khmer Rude.

@Theory: Do we need the lost brother plot with Ai when it's most likely being done with Sera.

Grammar Roman = better alternative to Grammar Nazi.

...also, to add onto the Sera point. Eisuke was pretty obviously a lost brother plot too, and I seriously doubt Aoyama would reuse that plot three times

[shubhoshinichi]

Gosho is not to be trusted in any way, he turns things like we could never have imagined..