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Kor wrote:
Not only that, but we still have the Bourbon thing going on right now. Why to try to insert more B.O. when he still haven't resolved that long arc. Considering that for more than a year now there wasn't a B.O. case, making a B.O. related case which is not related to Okiya/Akai/Bourbon, is just stupid.
To be fair, the dark footprint/contact with the Black Org case (Conan in the locker) was pretty much unrelated to Vermouth despite being in the middle of that arc. Akai had a cameo or two, but it was nothing very plot substantial. (Conan learned from Ran Akai was FBI but the readers learned that in golden apple)
Yes. I know.
However back then, I believe fans had a little more patience than now, and then the Vermouth thing was flowing better because we had Jodie, Akai, Vermouth, and Haibara was still important.
However, what did the dark foot print case ever involved into? Nothing. I don't see the point in yet another case that comes out of nowhere and turns into nothing more that something that will (or won't) be resolved at the very end.
Kor wrote:
Not only that, but we still have the Bourbon thing going on right now. Why to try to insert more B.O. when he still haven't resolved that long arc. Considering that for more than a year now there wasn't a B.O. case, making a B.O. related case which is not related to Okiya/Akai/Bourbon, is just stupid.
To be fair, the dark footprint/contact with the Black Org case (Conan in the locker) was pretty much unrelated to Vermouth despite being in the middle of that arc. Akai had a cameo or two, but it was nothing very plot substantial. (Conan learned from Ran Akai was FBI but the readers learned that in golden apple)
Yes. I know.
However back then, I believe fans had a little more patience than now, and then the Vermouth thing was flowing better because we had Jodie, Akai, Vermouth, and Haibara was still important.
However, what did the dark foot print case ever involved into? Nothing. I don't see the point in yet another case that comes out of nowhere and turns into nothing more that something that will (or won't) be resolved at the very end.
Actually, that dark foot print gave:
- Some understanding about Vodka not being as cunning as aniki
- Gin ragingly opening lockers by simply feeling the disk then smiled and said he was being silly - no really, I think he was always soooooooooooo close to killing/getting Conan like the "kill the kid" phrase
- And most importantly, there might have been a reference to Vermouth in that case, the "women" and "cat" thing, then some Bo's purpose
Kor wrote:
Not only that, but we still have the Bourbon thing going on right now. Why to try to insert more B.O. when he still haven't resolved that long arc. Considering that for more than a year now there wasn't a B.O. case, making a B.O. related case which is not related to Okiya/Akai/Bourbon, is just stupid.
To be fair, the dark footprint/contact with the Black Org case (Conan in the locker) was pretty much unrelated to Vermouth despite being in the middle of that arc. Akai had a cameo or two, but it was nothing very plot substantial. (Conan learned from Ran Akai was FBI but the readers learned that in golden apple)
Yes. I know.
However back then, I believe fans had a little more patience than now, and then the Vermouth thing was flowing better because we had Jodie, Akai, Vermouth, and Haibara was still important.
However, what did the dark foot print case ever involved into? Nothing. I don't see the point in yet another case that comes out of nowhere and turns into nothing more that something that will (or won't) be resolved at the very end.
Actually, that dark foot print gave:
- Some understanding about Vodka not being as cunning as aniki
- Gin ragingly opening lockers by simply feeling the disk then smiled and said he was being silly - no really, I think he was always soooooooooooo close to killing/getting Conan like the "kill the kid" phrase
- And most importantly, there might have been a reference to Vermouth in that case, the "women" and "cat" thing, then some Bo's purpose
My bad. I confused with the words "involve" and "develop". What I meant to say was "However, what did the dark foot print case ever develop into? Nothing."
If the question was "What we got?" then you forgot to note that the case also gave us the impression that this series is much more sci-fi than what we previously thought.
Kor wrote:
Not only that, but we still have the Bourbon thing going on right now. Why to try to insert more B.O. when he still haven't resolved that long arc. Considering that for more than a year now there wasn't a B.O. case, making a B.O. related case which is not related to Okiya/Akai/Bourbon, is just stupid.
To be fair, the dark footprint/contact with the Black Org case (Conan in the locker) was pretty much unrelated to Vermouth despite being in the middle of that arc. Akai had a cameo or two, but it was nothing very plot substantial. (Conan learned from Ran Akai was FBI but the readers learned that in golden apple)
Yes. I know.
However back then, I believe fans had a little more patience than now, and then the Vermouth thing was flowing better because we had Jodie, Akai, Vermouth, and Haibara was still important.
However, what did the dark foot print case ever involved into? Nothing. I don't see the point in yet another case that comes out of nowhere and turns into nothing more that something that will (or won't) be resolved at the very end.
Actually, that dark foot print gave:
- Some understanding about Vodka not being as cunning as aniki
- Gin ragingly opening lockers by simply feeling the disk then smiled and said he was being silly - no really, I think he was always soooooooooooo close to killing/getting Conan like the "kill the kid" phrase
- And most importantly, there might have been a reference to Vermouth in that case, the "women" and "cat" thing, then some Bo's purpose
My bad. I confused with the words "involve" and "develop". What I meant to say was "However, what did the dark foot print case ever develop into? Nothing."
If the question was "What we got?" then you forgot to note that the case also gave us the impression that this series is much more sci-fi than what we previously thought.
When the Shinichi shrunk, it automatically became a sci-fi to me and that's more than a decade ago lol
Kor wrote:
Not only that, but we still have the Bourbon thing going on right now. Why to try to insert more B.O. when he still haven't resolved that long arc. Considering that for more than a year now there wasn't a B.O. case, making a B.O. related case which is not related to Okiya/Akai/Bourbon, is just stupid.
To be fair, the dark footprint/contact with the Black Org case (Conan in the locker) was pretty much unrelated to Vermouth despite being in the middle of that arc. Akai had a cameo or two, but it was nothing very plot substantial. (Conan learned from Ran Akai was FBI but the readers learned that in golden apple)
Yes. I know.
However back then, I believe fans had a little more patience than now, and then the Vermouth thing was flowing better because we had Jodie, Akai, Vermouth, and Haibara was still important.
However, what did the dark foot print case ever involved into? Nothing. I don't see the point in yet another case that comes out of nowhere and turns into nothing more that something that will (or won't) be resolved at the very end.
Actually, that dark foot print gave:
- Some understanding about Vodka not being as cunning as aniki
- Gin ragingly opening lockers by simply feeling the disk then smiled and said he was being silly - no really, I think he was always soooooooooooo close to killing/getting Conan like the "kill the kid" phrase
- And most importantly, there might have been a reference to Vermouth in that case, the "women" and "cat" thing, then some Bo's purpose
My bad. I confused with the words "involve" and "develop". What I meant to say was "However, what did the dark foot print case ever develop into? Nothing."
If the question was "What we got?" then you forgot to note that the case also gave us the impression that this series is much more sci-fi than what we previously thought.
When the Shinichi shrunk, it automatically became a sci-fi to me and that's more than a decade ago lol
This time you're the one who has made the mistake
The sentence doesn't say that it wasn't sci-fi before. It says that the case made it even more sci-fi than before.
Kor wrote:
Not only that, but we still have the Bourbon thing going on right now. Why to try to insert more B.O. when he still haven't resolved that long arc. Considering that for more than a year now there wasn't a B.O. case, making a B.O. related case which is not related to Okiya/Akai/Bourbon, is just stupid.
To be fair, the dark footprint/contact with the Black Org case (Conan in the locker) was pretty much unrelated to Vermouth despite being in the middle of that arc. Akai had a cameo or two, but it was nothing very plot substantial. (Conan learned from Ran Akai was FBI but the readers learned that in golden apple)
Yes. I know.
However back then, I believe fans had a little more patience than now, and then the Vermouth thing was flowing better because we had Jodie, Akai, Vermouth, and Haibara was still important.
However, what did the dark foot print case ever involved into? Nothing. I don't see the point in yet another case that comes out of nowhere and turns into nothing more that something that will (or won't) be resolved at the very end.
Actually, that dark foot print gave:
- Some understanding about Vodka not being as cunning as aniki
- Gin ragingly opening lockers by simply feeling the disk then smiled and said he was being silly - no really, I think he was always soooooooooooo close to killing/getting Conan like the "kill the kid" phrase
- And most importantly, there might have been a reference to Vermouth in that case, the "women" and "cat" thing, then some Bo's purpose
My bad. I confused with the words "involve" and "develop". What I meant to say was "However, what did the dark foot print case ever develop into? Nothing."
If the question was "What we got?" then you forgot to note that the case also gave us the impression that this series is much more sci-fi than what we previously thought.
When the Shinichi shrunk, it automatically became a sci-fi to me and that's more than a decade ago lol
This time you're the one who has made the mistake
The sentence doesn't say that it wasn't sci-fi before. It says that the case made it even more sci-fi than before.
You're right, I totally skimmed your post there XD LOL
But yes, this series is a scifi, next things to know Anokata is an alien ! He's Abs.!
So.... Diana was just the "average" old rich lady.
Spoiler:
I certainly hope not. I hope there's still something behind it, so we can later, when a new BO arc has just been finished, look back at it and say: "Ahh, of course, there was this and that hinting at it." I'm still hoping she'll play some role, maybe as an informant or something along those lines to either Bourbon or the BO.
So.... Diana was just the "average" old rich lady.
Spoiler:
I certainly hope not. I hope there's still something behind it, so we can later, when a new BO arc has just been finished, look back at it and say: "Ahh, of course, there was this and that hinting at it." I'm still hoping she'll play some role, maybe as an informant or something along those lines to either Bourbon or the BO.
Spoiler:
Since I haven't seen the spoilers of 753, is there still a possibility that she is Vermouth?
So.... Diana was just the "average" old rich lady.
Spoiler:
I certainly hope not. I hope there's still something behind it, so we can later, when a new BO arc has just been finished, look back at it and say: "Ahh, of course, there was this and that hinting at it." I'm still hoping she'll play some role, maybe as an informant or something along those lines to either Bourbon or the BO.
Spoiler:
Since I haven't seen the spoilers of 753, is there still a possibility that she is Vermouth?
Spoiler:
Unless Gosho can give me a clear explanation of why Vermouth would want to approach the family this way of all way, - flying to London, getting them to see a tennis match, etc. I really won't consider the possibility of her being Vermouth as high
then smiled and said he was being silly 
