Shouldn't Kogoro have figured out Conan's identity by now?

[Quiet Lurker]

Ventriloquism actually requires partially open lips... But well, aside from that anyone could notice that the "voice" does not really come from his mouth (even if Conan uses a speaker on Kogoro's collar. Anyone should have noticed that, it's just unnatural not to... really.

Actually, characters DO notice if they get close enough (The further away the observers, the less likely they are to notice):
- Ran actually noticed that Kogoro's voice did not come from his mouth in one case but didn't think much of it.
- As I pointed out in another thread, Inspector Satou may have already figured out that Conan is behind "Sleeping Kogoro" and "Deduction Queen Sonoko"

Of course, of all people, Kogoro should be the most aware that the voice did not originate from his own mouth. 

[Rellik]

it's most likely ur common sense and logic that denies the fact the voice is coming from some1 else and ur brain just thinks it has got to hav come from that person.

[Raso]

He suspects something is different about conan but I dont think he has or can put 2 and 2 together

http://www.dctp.ws/V43-Reader/V43-5Read/A2.html
http://www.dctp.ws/V43-Reader/V43-5Read/A3.html

those 2 pages pretty much sum up what he thinks about conan

[Pocky]

I totally agree. He should've figured it out.
Unless, he's faking that he doesn't know for some reason.
I highly doubt that he is faking it.
The first episode he showed up, he's still hopeless.  8)

[ten]

Seriously: he is aware of his memory loss (this is repeated several times) but he seems to do nothing about it.  Maybe later on we will learn he has sadly and unfortunately spent much his money visiting a doctor/neurologist trying to figure out the source of his memory loss....

However,

I've always felt that he knows it and he's exploiting it to the hilt.

I really like entertaining that idea in my head =D: Short fan fic below:

[We learn later on that Kogoro has long ago become immune to the sleeping effects of the tranquilizer in Conan's bowtie-dart ; flashback to Kogoro's original discovery of this:]

Kogoro: "Oh so that brat Conan has been knocking me asleep and solving all the cases for me, and because of it I've become a famous detective and received a ton of money (which I can spend on booze and horse race bets) ... Hmm.. what's the downside of this again?  Let's see: I get to nap while someone else does my job for me, and I get all the respect, money, and fame.  Hmm...doesn't seem to be a downside =D I'll just prented -- no... better yet I will just actually fall asleep whenever I feel a bite/prick on my neck from a needle (why should I pretend to nap when I can actually take a nap)."

[The ending of the series:] Kogoro becomes conditionally trained to fall asleep when he feels a sting on his neck and ends up falling asleep whenever being bitten by a mosquito on the neck: (Comedy of threes): Kogoro first 1) Gets bitten by mosquito on during a case and falls asleep while talking directly face to face to Megure, and is rescued by Conan again 2) Gets bitten by mosquito while driving Eri, Conan, and Ran back, and crashes the car into the window of the rental shop he got the car from 3) After recovering from the crash, Eri finally agrees to makeup with Kogoro and pronounces her love to him once again. immediately after he gets bitten again by a mosquito and falls asleep.  Eri and Ran both "demonstrate" some karate moves on his head but are unable to rouse him from his sleep. =D

[SkyVenger]

Hell, I can't even imagine Kogoro's life if Conan finally turns back to Shinichi... Where'd all those reputation go?

[Rellik]

to the drain?

[ten]

Hell, I can't even imagine Kogoro's life if Conan finally turns back to Shinichi... Where'd all those reputation go?

I would like to see him rejoin the police force as a detective -- if he's not going to get back with Eri and get some of that lawyer money ( ...do lawyers in Japan make a ton of money like lawyers in the US? )

[Raso]

Hell, I can't even imagine Kogoro's life if Conan finally turns back to Shinichi... Where'd all those reputation go?

I would like to see him rejoin the police force as a detective -- if he's not going to get back with Eri and get some of that lawyer money ( ...do lawyers in Japan make a ton of money like lawyers in the US? )

if you look at her office and the fact that she is a high profile Defense attorney yeah she probably makes Bank

[Rio Nagava]

( ...do lawyers in Japan make a ton of money like lawyers in the US? )

Well the only lawyer i know aside from Eri is Phoenix Wright... And he's a poor man =)

There is a flaw, probably taken from american movies. And a certain flaw, probably due some fillers.
1. Person DON'T fall asleep immediatlly after dosing with tranquliser (forgive my bad english). I can assure about that, i was dosed when i was in the surgery, and yeah i felt like a spinning wheel but i didn't turn off until i get some *funny gas*. But Kogorou turned off like a lightbulb. Only exception is Gin, he felt it and shot himself, which brought him to senses. Well maybe it's not a flaw, it's just a little ease up on logic there...
2. T-needle. It has been shown that needle destroyes itself after dosing everyone. I don't remember where tho. This would explain WHY noone even noticed that there is a needle in their neck\butt\nose. BUT at one time Conan misses and instead hitting Kogorou he shot Ran's butt. He tries to take needle back, maybe to reload it. Different needles? Or needles doesn't evaporate?
That would meant, that Conan take it with him. But there was a lot of times, when he simply forget about Kogorou, so needle stays?

And there is another thing arises. Side-effects...
I meant it! Constant dosing, should give some...

Kogorou could realise that Conan is messing up with him. And that could explain why he's hitting him everytime. Or Kogorou still have no idea what is wrong with him.
But then again, there is something that keeps bugging me. In second movie, there was some info on Kogorou - sure it's a Filler probably but still.
What if Kogorou is a good detective? The reason his not working right, because he lost his inspiration. His wife. Sure he maybe a naughty when it comes to girls. But what is it's all just a show off. He act this way, so noone get his sadness =) Sorry that was an offtop =)
He can put 2 and 2 together and get 4. Exept that he don't know these 2 numbers. When Conan isn't getting his hands on T-watch, he pushing everyone towards the answer, and they get it. Is it just Conan, or?

[baka1412]

Don't forget the Immunity / Body resistance  Factor !

If you kept giving some person a certain dose of tranquilizer (drug) on regular / daily basis, someday that person body would gained some immunity toward the drug or at the very least should become more resistance...

Count it, how many times does Conan drugged Kogoro ? 

Even Gosho gave us some hint, i remember in some case, Conan was wondering why Kogoro didn't go to sleep after he shot him, and Kogoro fell asleep a few second after that.. which is odd since Kogoro had been shown to went sleep as soon as the T.needle poke him..

[SkyVenger]

They (Kogoro etc.) don't actually fall asleep in an instant like a bulb; they do some sort of a "dance" (haha, can't find other terms ) until they reach a wall or chair for them to sit properly and look intelligent in front of the others (DC is really fictional, hahaha )

About the disappearing needle, no comment. Even the voice-changer shouldn't be that perfect in open surroundings; you must hear two voices (original + distorted) at the same time. Or maybe Agasa's gadgets are really high-tech... cool 8)

[Pocky]

They (Kogoro etc.) don't actually fall asleep in an instant like a bulb; they do some sort of a "dance" (haha, can't find other terms ) until they reach a wall or chair for them to sit properly and look intelligent in front of the others (DC is really fictional, hahaha )

About the disappearing needle, no comment. Even the voice-changer shouldn't be that perfect in open surroundings; you must hear two voices (original + distorted) at the same time. Or maybe Agasa's gadgets are really high-tech... cool 8)

Exactly.
His "dance" as Megure (or who ever else) calls it is adorably funny. xD

[Pocky]

( ...do lawyers in Japan make a ton of money like lawyers in the US? )

Well the only lawyer i know aside from Eri is Phoenix Wright... And he's a poor man =)

There is a flaw, probably taken from american movies. And a certain flaw, probably due some fillers.
1. Person DON'T fall asleep immediatlly after dosing with tranquliser (forgive my bad english). I can assure about that, i was dosed when i was in the surgery, and yeah i felt like a spinning wheel but i didn't turn off until i get some *funny gas*. But Kogorou turned off like a lightbulb. Only exception is Gin, he felt it and shot himself, which brought him to senses. Well maybe it's not a flaw, it's just a little ease up on logic there...
2. T-needle. It has been shown that needle destroyes itself after dosing everyone. I don't remember where tho. This would explain WHY noone even noticed that there is a needle in their neck\butt\nose. BUT at one time Conan misses and instead hitting Kogorou he shot Ran's butt. He tries to take needle back, maybe to reload it. Different needles? Or needles doesn't evaporate?
That would meant, that Conan take it with him. But there was a lot of times, when he simply forget about Kogorou, so needle stays?

And there is another thing arises. Side-effects...
I meant it! Constant dosing, should give some...

Kogorou could realise that Conan is messing up with him. And that could explain why he's hitting him everytime. Or Kogorou still have no idea what is wrong with him.
But then again, there is something that keeps bugging me. In second movie, there was some info on Kogorou - sure it's a Filler probably but still.
What if Kogorou is a good detective? The reason his not working right, because he lost his inspiration. His wife. Sure he maybe a naughty when it comes to girls. But what is it's all just a show off. He act this way, so noone get his sadness =) Sorry that was an offtop =)
He can put 2 and 2 together and get 4. Exept that he don't know these 2 numbers. When Conan isn't getting his hands on T-watch, he pushing everyone towards the answer, and they get it. Is it just Conan, or?

He only has one needle.
Proof: http://img42.onemanga.com/mangas/000001 ... 184/04.jpg

[Aluecard]

omg that just epic XD