File 652 Spoiler (Close Call)

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Every time he take a antidote-pill, his body fabricates ''anitbodie's''..... so each time he takes a pill, his time-limit shortens.... so if he took them each day, he would probably end up taking one in each second.....hehehe.. atleast this is stated in the new file...

[aimforksc]

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Every time he take a antidote-pill, his body fabricates ''anitbodie's''..... so each time he takes a pill, his time-limit shortens.... so if he took them each day, he would probably end up taking one in each second.....hehehe.. atleast this is stated in the new file...

Reading this, suddenly the story of Dr.Jekyll&Mr.Hyde just comes into my mind…
Can he really come back at the end of the manga (I mean at the very end when there is no more files out)? This seems a very interesting question…

[jelly_Ace]

*sigh* I'm gonna kill somebody if the whole Ran/Shinichi thing doesn't go anywhere with this case. Aoyama-sensei, the whole love-confession-being-aborted-in-the-end-of-the-case-after-being-delegated-to-the-last-page is becoming old. We fangirls need some closure!!! It's been 12 years!!! *SCREAMS in frustration*

I've been wondering what the heck is up with Shinichi's face while he was talking to Ran. Was he annoyed, was he pretending to be annoyed so as to stop any romantic notions to form in Ran's mind, was he just tired, etc.

[GinRei]

He's probably just tired.  I doubt he slept much while keeping an eye on the fake Shinichi.

[Steel]

Later Knightus.

Well, we know that the question Ran wanted to ask wasn't if he saw the panties. I think I know the REAL question she wanted to ask... "D-did... you like it?"

[ten]

this is a weird file...but some weirdness is explainable... All boring speculation on the murder:

Kudo says he was killed within the closed car while driving, but what is obvious is the window of the guy's car is and was open.

Accounting for some of the file's weirdness... the conversation with Sato that Mouri had is a hint of how the murder was executed..

The victim and the criminal were having a conversation just like Sato and Mouri (Except of course in Sato's case Takagi was driving and was driving a car with the steering wheel on the right side). 

So if the murder wasn't elaborate...and the criminal killed the victim while they were having a conversation (each in their separate cars) with their windows down..

The murderer had to have had a car with the wheel on the right side so the two drivers could be close enough to talk, and so the criminal could pull off his trick.

The first person to reach the victim and also the first person to touch (shake) the victim through the window, appears to have a car with the wheel on the right side (he is likely the driver and exited from the right door), and most importantly of all, with quite a coincidence, he knows the victim.

So...Shinichi has his first suspect

Something to note: the rope marks were mostly (hidden) underneath the victims collar.

Also, I want to know:

1)is it as simple as the victim was choked using his own necktie somehow? (this seems .. too simple)
2)what business did Sato and Takagi have earlier? (is it related to this murder..?)
3)what trick did he use to keep the car from veering off immediately after strangling him (if they were right next to each other and all of a sudden it veered off to hit the guard rail it would be too suspicious...)

Last, will the next files get even weirder?: =P when Shinichi reveals the crime, the criminal will try to strangle him, and in that moment, Shinichi shrinks back to Conan to escape the criminals grip =P ... then in soon to be classic Conan, a soccer ball to the criminals crotch?

[EdogawaConanTantei]

[glow=red,2,300]This new case is supremely intriguing. I can't wait for this one. [/glow]

[RedPoppy]

*sigh* I'm gonna kill somebody if the whole Ran/Shinichi thing doesn't go anywhere with this case. Aoyama-sensei, the whole love-confession-being-aborted-in-the-end-of-the-case-after-being-delegated-to-the-last-page is becoming old. We fangirls need some closure!!! It's been 12 years!!! *SCREAMS in frustration*

Eh, I keep waiting for that beautiful moment too. I guess something will must happen between Shinichi and Ran, if not, Gosho wouldn't have put that much stuff about them, I mean Shinichi's thoughts while turning back that he couldn't tell her anything again and mysterious Ran's thoughts that she would want to ask him about something else. I hope in later chapters we will see something nice and romantic... <3 <3 <3

Anyway, about the story. Did anybody has noticed that Gosho was inconsistent in that file? First thing - borrowing Heiji's clothes. Normal guy when he leaves somewhere for couple of day doesn't bring with him more clothes than one extra shirt, pair of socks and boxers (or any other underwear). Heiji has in his bag full wardrobe!!! How come he brought with him 2 pairs of trousers, 2 shirts, 2 jackets??? It's a weird thing. If Heiji likes to change clothes every day, why he didn't do it next day after finding Makoto in the lake? Yeah, it's a silly detail, but it drives me crazy.
I wonder if Shinichi in file 652 has shoes? Heiji had to buy Makoto shoes, because he hadn't any to lend him, but what with Shinichi? He's walking only with socks?? Heiji didn't seem to be surprised about Shinichi's clothes, so he probably got them from Heiji's bag.
Next thing - Shinichi told Ran he felt better after doing that. WHAT? What did he do? It's not any explanation. He felt better after taking a medicine from Hattori? After changing clothes? If I were Ran I wouldn't believe in such a explanation that fast.
Another thing - why on the hell nobody asked Shinichi why he screamed so loud?! I would be curious about it, in one moment he suffers from fever and a minute ago he feels fine. What's with Kogoro, Kazuha and Ran? They're really that naive???
I also don't get it how Ran could ask Shinichi about her panties in front of everyone? If it was so embarrassing thing for her, she would do it when they're alone or wouldn't as at all. Weird, weird, weird. How come Shinichi is so honest? Wouldn't it be better if he told her he didn't see anything? But then, we didn't get funny moment in file.

Okay, then let's see what's about next case. Man was strangled by the neck inside his car while driving... We don't know much now, but we can think about what could have happened. First thing - this man didn't DRIVE the car. He sat on the passenger's seat, not driver's seat. As I see he even didn't fasten his seatbelt. However it would be useless to kill him from driver's seat, because he would notice it and easy take off the rope. It would be much easier to strangle him from back seats. In that way even a woman could do that. But there're no dirty marks on the collar, no blood, no evidence which make us sure he tried to keep his life. Normally the collar and tie would be in mess. It's suspicious. Somebody must have had change his clothes or improve them at least. That person put killed man on the passenger's seat (that's why the seatbelt wasn't fastened), put something heavy on treadle to make car driving itself and get out of the car. First suspect is of course that woman who touched the man from the open window. Why did she do that? Maybe she wanted to get something fast from the car. I don't think it's a rope or any other thing which strangled him, but it's still suspicious. What do you think, guys? :-)

[Misztina]

1. First thing - borrowing Heiji's clothes. Normal guy when he leaves somewhere for couple of day doesn't bring with him more clothes than one extra shirt, pair of socks and boxers (or any other underwear). Heiji has in his bag full wardrobe!!! How come he brought with him 2 pairs of trousers, 2 shirts, 2 jackets???

2. I also don't get it how Ran could ask Shinichi about her panties in front of everyone? If it was so embarrassing thing for her, she would do it when they're alone or wouldn't as at all. Weird, weird, weird. How come Shinichi is so honest? Wouldn't it be better if he told her he didn't see anything? But then, we didn't get funny moment in file.

1. Maybe Heiji's mom was persistent. Moms tend to pack you too much from everything. XD I just know that. And maybe Heiji is spoiled enough that his mother would pack for him. lol

2.Maybe Shinichi thought too, that is was a stupid question, so he answered honestly to tease Ran for being stupid.

[Shin-chan]

Man, this arc just keeps going.  And I'm loving every minute of it.

On Heiji's clothes, the guy brought his school uniform on the mermaid case.  He probably does have the whole wardrobe hidden in that bag.    Or for a more serious possibility, Makoto might have got his own clothes back and then returned Heiji's gear off-screeen.

On what Ran wants to ask, she might want to confirm his stance on Okiya but that wouldn't require her nervousness so it looks like she is suspicious about Conan again.  But Ran, if that is the case then you know you have stripped down in front of him on more than one occasion.  Your panties are old news by now.

With the way things have going, we had better get some progression on the Ran/Shinichi plotline before he goes back to being Conan.

[ten]

Okay, then let's see what's about next case. Man was strangled by the neck inside his car while driving... We don't know much now, but we can think about what could have happened. First thing - this man didn't DRIVE the car. He sat on the passenger's seat, not driver's seat. As I see he even didn't fasten his seatbelt. However it would be useless to kill him from driver's seat, because he would notice it and easy take off the rope. It would be much easier to strangle him from back seats. In that way even a woman could do that. But there're no dirty marks on the collar, no blood, no evidence which make us sure he tried to keep his life. Normally the collar and tie would be in mess. It's suspicious. Somebody must have had change his clothes or improve them at least. That person put killed man on the passenger's seat (that's why the seatbelt wasn't fastened), put something heavy on treadle to make car driving itself and get out of the car. First suspect is of course that woman who touched the man from the open window. Why did she do that? Maybe she wanted to get something fast from the car. I don't think it's a rope or any other thing which strangled him, but it's still suspicious. What do you think, guys? :-)

What led you to believe the victim wasn't driving and that he was actually sitting in the passenger seat??

The victim was in the left seat, but the steering wheel is not shown in any of the pictures clearly to indicate whether the car is left hand drive or right hand drive.

The victim's car is obviously a Mercedes Benz.  Although you could find a right hand drive Mercedes Benz, it is simply more likely that it is left hand drive because of the manufacturer, which means it is more likely he was driving since he was in the left seat.

It isn't clear whether he was wearing a seatbelt or not (hard to tell from just the two panels of when the car was in motion), but even if he wasn't he could have just as well been driving without a seatbelt.

[GinRei]

Look at the panel where Shinichi is examining him the first time.  Behind Shinichi you can see there's no steering wheel, unless it's ridiculously low and centered.  As for the seatbelt, look at where the strap is on Heiji.  On the other guy, it would be easily visible on his chest (hard to notice on jacket, but his shirt would show it).  On the last page, you can see he isn't wearing a standard seat belt.  It's possible that car uses an older "lap only" belt though.

[jason]

Since I haven't actually looked at it yet, does Haibara's new extension pill have some sort of usage limit or diminishing return effect?  If not, couldn't he just stay as Shinichi by taking one everytime he has a bone-melting heart spasm?

No, she said that if he takes one too frequently, antibodies will start getting use to the antidote and will decrease the time on how long he'll stay as Shinichi.

[RedPoppy]

[quote="KnightusMaximus"]
About "doing that". Miyano's translation said that 出ã

[Liz]

*sigh* I'm gonna kill somebody if the whole Ran/Shinichi thing doesn't go anywhere with this case. Aoyama-sensei, the whole love-confession-being-aborted-in-the-end-of-the-case-after-being-delegated-to-the-last-page is becoming old. We fangirls need some closure!!! It's been 12 years!!! *SCREAMS in frustration*

Eh, I keep waiting for that beautiful moment too. I guess something will must happen between Shinichi and Ran, if not, Gosho wouldn't have put that much stuff about them, I mean Shinichi's thoughts while turning back that he couldn't tell her anything again and mysterious Ran's thoughts that she would want to ask him about something else. I hope in later chapters we will see something nice and romantic... <3 <3 <3

Anyway, about the story. Did anybody has noticed that Gosho was inconsistent in that file? First thing - borrowing Heiji's clothes. Normal guy when he leaves somewhere for couple of day doesn't bring with him more clothes than one extra shirt, pair of socks and boxers (or any other underwear). Heiji has in his bag full wardrobe!!! How come he brought with him 2 pairs of trousers, 2 shirts, 2 jackets??? It's a weird thing. If Heiji likes to change clothes every day, why he didn't do it next day after finding Makoto in the lake? Yeah, it's a silly detail, but it drives me crazy.
I wonder if Shinichi in file 652 has shoes? Heiji had to buy Makoto shoes, because he hadn't any to lend him, but what with Shinichi? He's walking only with socks?? Heiji didn't seem to be surprised about Shinichi's clothes, so he probably got them from Heiji's bag.
Next thing - Shinichi told Ran he felt better after doing that. WHAT? What did he do? It's not any explanation. He felt better after taking a medicine from Hattori? After changing clothes? If I were Ran I wouldn't believe in such a explanation that fast.
Another thing - why on the hell nobody asked Shinichi why he screamed so loud?! I would be curious about it, in one moment he suffers from fever and a minute ago he feels fine. What's with Kogoro, Kazuha and Ran? They're really that naive???
I also don't get it how Ran could ask Shinichi about her panties in front of everyone? If it was so embarrassing thing for her, she would do it when they're alone or wouldn't as at all. Weird, weird, weird. How come Shinichi is so honest? Wouldn't it be better if he told her he didn't see anything? But then, we didn't get funny moment in file.

Okay, then let's see what's about next case. Man was strangled by the neck inside his car while driving... We don't know much now, but we can think about what could have happened. First thing - this man didn't DRIVE the car. He sat on the passenger's seat, not driver's seat. As I see he even didn't fasten his seatbelt. However it would be useless to kill him from driver's seat, because he would notice it and easy take off the rope. It would be much easier to strangle him from back seats. In that way even a woman could do that. But there're no dirty marks on the collar, no blood, no evidence which make us sure he tried to keep his life. Normally the collar and tie would be in mess. It's suspicious. Somebody must have had change his clothes or improve them at least. That person put killed man on the passenger's seat (that's why the seatbelt wasn't fastened), put something heavy on treadle to make car driving itself and get out of the car. First suspect is of course that woman who touched the man from the open window. Why did she do that? Maybe she wanted to get something fast from the car. I don't think it's a rope or any other thing which strangled him, but it's still suspicious. What do you think, guys? :-)

I agree with you
I don't know why Gosho make
all this mistake in the file
it's weird 
I dislike the file ..