Chekhov MacG Memorial Thread for White Day Murder (Files 725

[Tanner-kun]

i voted for option 5

[Abs.]

I read the File 725 translated to the Spanigh (I can't secure that who translated did a good job because i dont know any Japanese) and in one part says

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"After a dramatic ending, you ll be there in the end with him" .... now i ask, does it mean that one might die in the end? that maybe one of the two sacrifies his/her life to save the other?? (i always thought that if Shinichi was about to die Shiho would sacrifice her life to save him and that would be the ultimate prove about her feelings for him)

..... What u think guys/girls ??

I didn't translate it like that, but I like how you think.

[Abs.]

Re: Title of this thread

IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ZOMBIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

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I have returned for your BRAAAAAIIINNNSSS!!!

[acerola21]

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I have returned for your BRAAAAAIIINNNSSS!!!

That might be the cat the lady over the phone kept - it certainly explains why she hung up the phone when the Itakura heard a cat over the phone. 

[Key-chan]

Chekhov is back! Yay! *shoots confetti and goes off dancing with Abs.--- that is, unless he pushes Key-chan away out of terror*

[mangaluva]

Spoiler:

I have returned for your BRAAAAAIIINNNSSS!!!

I was right, Chekhov's a zombiecat! That said- RUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!

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Anyway... I'd like to see what the victim was doing immediately prior to death. I think the "are you listening?" was to distract him from something. It could be that he faked his death and then the wife put cyanide in his mouth while checking on him, but surely he'd have reacted if she had? He didn't move.
Another thought is that he wasn't poisoned by cyanide- we only assume such because of the almond scent, but what if what his wife was doing was spritzing almond scent or something in his mouth, and he was actually killed by a slower-acting poison? I don't know enough about poisons to back this up, but it's a theory.

On another note... am I the only one who thinks that the spies on the chocolate are vividly reminiscient of MAD magazine's "Spy vs Spy" cartoon?

[Tenken]

I hate cases in which there's only ONE suspect.

[Olive]

Why isn't Zombie!Shuu one of the options?! It would explain so much!

I have to say this case was hilarious. Especially Kogorou's commercial. I have a feeling that he might have found a profession that truly calls him.

@Chu-chan: Hivemind! xD

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I was just thinking that it actually was supposed to be a murder mystery, but then the wife actually poisoned him somehow after he pretended to die. She was awfully close to the body.

It was totally Spy vs Spy! I mean, I recognized it when I saw the picture of the bar of chocolate on like, the first page, but the reference to bombs pretty much confirmed it.
It would be so hilarious if the vice-president was secretly also the Gray Spy. xD

[mangaluva]

I have to say this case was hilarious. Especially Kogorou's commercial. I have a feeling that he might have found a profession that truly calls him.

Absolutely LOVED his face XDXD

@Chu-chan: Hivemind! xD

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I was just thinking that it actually was supposed to be a murder mystery, but then the wife actually poisoned him somehow after he pretended to die. She was awfully close to the body.

Great minds think alike 

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same. It totally reminded me of the case where Heiji first appeared in that respect. The "are you listening" might have been the signal to pretend to die.

It was totally Spy vs Spy! I mean, I recognized it when I saw the picture of the bar of chocolate on like, the first page, but the reference to bombs pretty much confirmed it.
It would be so hilarious if the vice-president was secretly also the Gray Spy. xD

Nah, the BO boss is the Gray Spy. He's going to swing in at the end with plot following behind.[/living in hope]

[acerola21]

Spoiler:

I have returned for your BRAAAAAIIINNNSSS!!!

I was right, Chekhov's a zombiecat! That said- RUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!

Spoiler:

Anyway... I'd like to see what the victim was doing immediately prior to death. I think the "are you listening?" was to distract him from something. It could be that he faked his death and then the wife put cyanide in his mouth while checking on him, but surely he'd have reacted if she had? He didn't move.
Another thought is that he wasn't poisoned by cyanide- we only assume such because of the almond scent, but what if what his wife was doing was spritzing almond scent or something in his mouth, and he was actually killed by a slower-acting poison? I don't know enough about poisons to back this up, but it's a theory.

On another note... am I the only one who thinks that the spies on the chocolate are vividly reminiscient of MAD magazine's "Spy vs Spy" cartoon?

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Brilliant!  That would explain why the wife was touching the hubby's mouth - maybe the almond-scent was on the back of the napkin on the cup?  Now we'll just have to wait for Ran to say something like, "Hmm, my hand smells like almonds" the next chapter . . . er, I hope she does.

Oh wow, that Spy vs. Spy thing is really cool - I didn't know that Gosho knew about the comic.  I mean, I didn't until you guys mentioned it.

[wawan]

I think I have an idea about the place for the poison

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As you can see on the first picture, ther is a glass on the table before Mr Urai, it's probably his wife who put it there


On the following page, there is a small difference about this glass: the round on the edge has disappear


Maybe the cyanide was in this round and Mr Urai eat it.
However one point is weird. Mr Urai say to his wife that he didn't like sour stuf, so I have no idea why he would eat a piece of lemon. But I am quite sure there is a trick about this round.

[Schillok]

Well... let's make some (more or less reasonable) theories now so Abs can change the poll. (I hope those who voted already can revote then...)

The theories would be:

1) The woman poisoned him after her husband acted like he was breaking down (but was actually fine - both of them knew it was an act).
2) The woman managed to smuggle the poison in/on his glass after he started drinking from it.
3) The woman prepared a poisoned glass/object before the party and managed to make her husband take it.
4) The woman poisoned her own drink and managed to exchange it for her husbands.
5) The woman is not the culprit - she had an accomplice to do it for her.
6) It is was an elaborate BO plot to kill the man - and noone will ever figure out the truth.


Any other suggestions? 

[acerola21]

I think I have an idea about the place for the poison

Spoiler:

As you can see on the first picture, ther is a glass on the table before Mr Urai, it's probably his wife who put it there


On the following page, there is a small difference about this glass: the round on the edge has disappear


Maybe the cyanide was in this round and Mr Urai eat it.
However one point is weird. Mr Urai say to his wife that he didn't like sour stuf, so I have no idea why he would eat a piece of lemon. But I am quite sure there is a trick about this round.

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Oh man oh man, that's an awesome catch!  Now my theory about the husband faking his death can go down the toilet ^^;

. . . Unless, the plan was to make a joke about eating something sour killed him, so he ate the lemon and then pretended to die and was later going to joke about how the sour stuff killed him . . . ?  Lol it's hard to say until the next chapter comes out.

It's fully possible that the lemon was poisoned somehow, and that Mr. Urai ate it . . . and it would raise the question of how Mrs. Urai got poison on the lemon.  Maybe she assumed that no one else would eat the lemon, so she got the poison on all of them?  How does it relate to the way Mrs. Urai held the cup, if it does at all?  And there's always the possibility of Gosho/his assistants forgetting to draw the stupid lemon, ha ha.

Well... let's make some (more or less reasonable) theories now so Abs can change the poll. (I hope those who voted already can revote then...)

The theories would be:

1) The woman poisoned him after her husband acted like he was breaking down (but was actually fine - both of them knew it was an act).
2) The woman managed to smuggle the poison in/on his glass after he started drinking from it.
3) The woman prepared a poisoned glass/object before the party and managed to make her husband take it.
4) The woman poisoned her own drink and managed to exchange it for her husbands.
5) The woman is not the culprit - she had an accomplice to do it for her.
6) It is was an elaborate BO plot to kill the man - and noone will ever figure out the truth.


Any other suggestions? 

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I'm not sure #3 would work.  Apparently, people grabbed the drinks buffet-style, so it would be hard to prepare the poison on the wine glass and make her husband take it - I mean, how would she single out that specific wine glass among all the others?  The same goes if Mrs. Urai prepared the poison on her glass - how would she spot it among others?

. . . Although, this is only the first chapter of the series, so a clue might pop up later as to how she might do it, I guess. *shrug*  Also, if the lemon was poisoned, and it turns out that all the lemon has poison on it because Mrs. Urai didn't think that anyone would eat the lemon, and eating the lemon was part of the act they planned and that's how Mrs. Urai killed Mr. Urai, I guess that this theory would fall under #3 . . . lol I don't know.  I guess what I'm saying is that Mrs. Urai couldn't have prepared a poisoned glass, though she may have prepared a poisoned object.

[Misztina]

I still have an alternative, which might eb possible. I came up with it with Redpoppy, although we haven't agree on which method was used.
AS for me I think the lemon was poisoned. The victim prepoared to play dead, and teh best way to do that and make it real is to eat something sour which he, as it is more or less known, hates and gets sick from it. For the sake of the show however he ate some of teh lemon and wanted to play dead, but sthere was poison there, he died. After that the murderer took away the lemon and pinned it back to the glass.

But this theory is a bit wobbly.