File 648 English Manga (Shinichi The Suspect)

[jelly_Ace]

The poster was so funny! I bet Ran is wanting one (a la Kazuha on episode 490 regarding Heiji's mom's collection). Anyways, I agree that Ran is acting apathetic. I think we'll only know at the end, when the arc ends...and when Shinichi is Conan again...

[ten]

yay english is up!

[EdogawaConanTantei]

yay english is up!

This still does very little for us. Next week is the real peach.. when we get Kudo's explanation for how this all happened.(knowing Gosho he'll like put Kudo in jail for most of the file and then when they are trying to go and talk to him, at the end of the file, he'll be missing from jail!  Hehe, just my guess.)


P.S. If Shiragami-sama=Makoto I'm gonna be so pissed.

[ten]

Of course the policeman Shiroyama seems the most suspicious but, from page 12 "the truth that shouldn't be said" makes this case seem very reminiscent of the case involving Dr Araide (his first appearance) where Conan covered up the truth regarding the manner of death to protect the maid (ep 170-171, vol24 3-6)

It seems like Shinichi conspired with Shiroyama to cover up the truth of the death of Hinohara and his wife to protect someone -- the policeman refuses to even reopen the case despite learning of Shinichi's mistake (which really makes him seem like he is trying to cover something up)...

does anyone else get this impression?

[bright_zero]

Of course the policeman Shiroyama seems the most suspicious but, from page 12 "the truth that shouldn't be said" makes this case seem very reminiscent of the case involving Dr Araide (his first appearance) where Conan covered up the truth regarding the manner of death to protect the maid (ep 170-171, vol24 3-6)

It seems like Shinichi conspired with Shiroyama to cover up the truth of the death of Hinohara and his wife to protect someone -- the policeman refuses to even reopen the case despite learning of Shinichi's mistake (which really makes him seem like he is trying to cover something up)...

does anyone else get this impression?

I was thinking the same, with the flashback of that police officer it all kinda comes into place, if it's the right assumption.....^^

[mysterygirl]

Of course the policeman Shiroyama seems the most suspicious but, from page 12 "the truth that shouldn't be said" makes this case seem very reminiscent of the case involving Dr Araide (his first appearance) where Conan covered up the truth regarding the manner of death to protect the maid (ep 170-171, vol24 3-6)

It seems like Shinichi conspired with Shiroyama to cover up the truth of the death of Hinohara and his wife to protect someone -- the policeman refuses to even reopen the case despite learning of Shinichi's mistake (which really makes him seem like he is trying to cover something up)...

does anyone else get this impression?

I was thinking the same, with the flashback of that police officer it all kinda comes into place, if it's the right assumption.....^^

After going through this chapter, yeah. I agree with all of this too. I am getting some kind of impression that Shinichi agreed to hide something to protect.

I can only imagine how that last scene happened was that he came across the body and found the knife. After picking up the knife, the culprit pushed Shinichi onto the body. That's how he got blood onto his clothing.

I just can't help having the small feeling that Shinichi might actualy be faking even up to this point. The fact that he asked to be left alone in Makoto's room and that expression that he look to the side. >_>

Anyways, if Shinigami = Makoto, I won't be surprised one bit. >_<

[RedPoppy]

Everybody were reflecting on who's white-haired monster in the forest or whether Shinichi is fake or not. Maybe we should think about other things like a stolen statue and missing strings in medals? I certain that everything must be connected. Who stole the jewellery and the statue? If it was normal robber he would have stolen both statues, so he didn't take this for money. I think this stolen statue was a murder weapon, since it hasn't been found. Kogoro said it was pretty heavy, so maybe a murderer hit wife's head with it. Remember, nobody said how the wife was murdered. The policeman just said that the culprit stepped in wife's blood. We don't know if she was murdered by a knife, a pistol or anything else. The head man died jumping for veranda for sure, that's all we know.

The other thing is why Shinichi wanted to stay a while in Makoto's room. After closing the door the expression on his face changed a lot, he seemed to be more confident. He wanted to find something in the room. Maybe there was a secret place with the weapon or something. I still think this Shinichi is really Makoto, but we don't have much information to prove this hypothesis.

[Shakura]

Who stole the jewelery and the statue? If it was normal robber he would have stolen both statues, so he didn't take this for money. I think this stolen statue was a murder weapon, since it hasn't been found. Kogoro said it was pretty heavy, so maybe a murderer hit wife's head with it. Remember, nobody said how the wife was murdered. 

It's interesting that you pointed the statues out.  The missing statue most likely had something to do with the murder, whether it was the desired object of the culprit or the murder weapon (given that the mentioning of the missing statue as well as that the cause of the wife's death wasn't specified).  The robber probably only took one for the reason that it was the murder weapon.  That's the only reason I could think of.  A criminal normally keeps the weapon with them or discards it in a way that the police won't find it.

The other thing is why Shinichi wanted to stay a while in Makoto's room. After closing the door the expression on his face changed a lot, he seemed to be more confident. He wanted to find something in the room. Maybe there was a secret place with the weapon or something. I still think this Shinichi is really Makoto, but we don't have much information to prove this hypothesis.

Makoto's room (or just his own picture, maybe) may have served as some kind of memory trigger, since showing certain things pertaining to the past of retrograde amnesiac can jump-start a recollection, he probably remembered a little something about the crime...or Makoto.

On the idea that the white-haired guy is Shinichi...I think that would only work if he had a wig on or something that whoever is supposedly imitating him left behind (though I don't really support this theory too much, there's a small chance of this being the case).  After all, Moegi mentioned seeing the white-haired guy before this whole thing, right?

[RedPoppy]

I didn't say that I think The Forest Guy is Shinichi. There's no way. Why Shinichi would wear a wig and jump from tree to tree, breathing madly? I certain this Shinichi found in the lake is not real Shinichi. Where is the real one? Don't know, but surly he isn't the Forest Guy. I think he's hiding somewhere and will come out in the latest file to uncover the truth.

Why I think that amnesia Shinichi is fake? Because of Ran and her feeling towards Shinichi. Just think, she has always blushing when somebody mentioned Shinichi, she was jealous about him, she cried missing him many times...now her beloved friend appeared suddenly and she said she didn't feel anything? That's weird. I really believe in her long-lasting love, so it makes me think that this Shinichi is an imposter.

By the way, I noticed that there was another thing about case which we forgot. I'm talking about head man's sport discipline. The reporter knew all about it, but she didn't mention it. I guess this must be important for case. Who knows, maybe this discipline was useful for head man to murder somebody? Reading Detecitve Conan I learned that every detail is important.

[shinichi]

or maybe it will turn out this whole thing was a ploy and that shinichi is really a psychopathic killer. he and agasa  planned for him to change back, knowing shinichi wanted to kill someone for trying to prove him wrong and messing with his ego. he pretended to have amnesia and waited for an opportunity to strike. he then uses his fake amnesia to try and rid himself of the blame using hattori who thinks he knows the real shinichi as an extra defense knowing that he will try to defend him. and in conclusion i need to go to bed before more stuff like this comes out of my head.

[RedPoppy]

Hahaha~!  Awesome! What a funny theory! Hope it's just your imagination, shinichi.