Has the theory of akai = subaru been confirmed?

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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
RoboG55 wrote:But still, that doesn't change the fact that there should be a sign of a mask somewhere there? ???
Why does Subaru need a mask? Isn't a wig, glasses, and high collar shirt to hide the voice changer enough?
Oh, good point. It's just that something's bothering me, but I can't quite figure it out... :\
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RoboG55 wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
RoboG55 wrote:But still, that doesn't change the fact that there should be a sign of a mask somewhere there? ???
Why does Subaru need a mask? Isn't a wig, glasses, and high collar shirt to hide the voice changer enough?
Oh, good point. It's just that something's bothering me, but I can't quite figure it out... :\
If it because Akai and Subaru have different skin tones, that's the anime's fault. Akai was supposed to be a bit on the pale side, but he was given a darker skin. Otherwise their faces match up pretty well.

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he still not yet reveal himself to haibara yet, that he is akai... if haibara know who he really is from the case foam, smoke, steam case, it will blow up his cover?
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shinouray91 wrote:he still not yet reveal himself to haibara yet, that he is akai... if haibara know who he really is from the case foam, smoke, steam case, it will blow up his cover?
I'm waiting for that^^
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shinouray91 wrote:he still not yet reveal himself to haibara yet, that he is akai... if haibara know who he really is from the case foam, smoke, steam case, it will blow up his cover?
Haibara would never tell the Black Organization, Bourbon, the FBI, or Masumi Sera who Okiya is. Why does it matter if she knows?
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
shinouray91 wrote:he still not yet reveal himself to haibara yet, that he is akai... if haibara know who he really is from the case foam, smoke, steam case, it will blow up his cover?
Haibara would never tell the Black Organization, Bourbon, the FBI, or Masumi Sera who Okiya is. Why does it matter if she knows?
oh,if haibara knows that okiya is akai, she would ask question about akemi...on Ep 503 Shiranpuri case haibara said to conan he want to see the akai person..
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shinouray91 wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
shinouray91 wrote:he still not yet reveal himself to haibara yet, that he is akai... if haibara know who he really is from the case foam, smoke, steam case, it will blow up his cover?
Haibara would never tell the Black Organization, Bourbon, the FBI, or Masumi Sera who Okiya is. Why does it matter if she knows?
oh,if haibara knows that okiya is akai, she would ask question about akemi...on Ep 503 Shiranpuri case haibara said to conan he want to see the akai person..
Even though Conan said Subaru was an ally, Ai still has some doubts about Subaru because she doesn't know his real intentions and Conan refuses to tell her. If Ai was that desperate to ask Subaru about Akemi, she could have walked next door at any time. Ai hasn't, probably because isn't brave enough to do so without the right circumstances. In the information-based relationship between Subaru and Ai, Subaru still has the initiative and he's going to delay because that suits him.
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shinouray91 wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
shinouray91 wrote:he still not yet reveal himself to haibara yet, that he is akai... if haibara know who he really is from the case foam, smoke, steam case, it will blow up his cover?
Haibara would never tell the Black Organization, Bourbon, the FBI, or Masumi Sera who Okiya is. Why does it matter if she knows?
oh,if haibara knows that okiya is akai, she would ask question about akemi...on Ep 503 Shiranpuri case haibara said to conan he want to see the akai person..
Haibara want to meet Akai regarding his action in saving Mouri Kogoro and involved Conan in fake patient (Kusuda Rikumichi) case. She has no idea this Akai is the same as Moroboshi Dai, however, Conan know. So he refuse.

Akai refuse to tell Ai probably because he avoiding question about Akemi, of cause.
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shinouray91 wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
shinouray91 wrote:he still not yet reveal himself to haibara yet, that he is akai... if haibara know who he really is from the case foam, smoke, steam case, it will blow up his cover?
Haibara would never tell the Black Organization, Bourbon, the FBI, or Masumi Sera who Okiya is. Why does it matter if she knows?
oh,if haibara knows that okiya is akai, she would ask question about akemi...on Ep 503 Shiranpuri case haibara said to conan he want to see the akai person..
Haibara want to meet Akai regarding his action in saving Mouri Kogoro and involved Conan in fake patient (Kusuda Rikumichi) case. She has no idea this Akai is the same as Moroboshi Dai, however, Conan know. So he refuse.

Akai refuse to tell Ai probably because he avoiding question about Akemi, of cause.
Akai obviously felt really really sad when Akemi died. He was probably guilty that he'd failed to protect her, as he'd promised Haibara. He knows it isn't time for him to face her, because Haibara is probably seriously pissed.
Conan acknowledges that too. He can just imagine what'd happen if they were to meet. So he apparently says no, and then Haibara demands a reason. XD
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yeah considering that Akemi only died a few month ago,it's too early for Akai to face Ai,because she'll really be mad when she'll know the truth about Akemi's death.
I'm just wondering if Akai will reveal by himself the truth,or will Haibara discover everything by herself(by confronting Sera for example...I remember Gosho said once that Ai and Sera will confront and that'll be spectacular)
And I'm also thinking,if Amuro discovers that Akai is alive,and report that to the BO,then Kir will be in danger and she'll have to escape...That'll be sad because she still hasn't done,or discovered anything about the BO since Akai's "death".I hope she'll have a more important role as an undercover CIA agent.
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AICHAN wrote: And I'm also thinking,if Amuro discovers that Akai is alive,and report that to the BO,then Kir will be in danger and she'll have to escape...That'll be sad because she still hasn't done,or discovered anything about the BO since Akai's "death".I hope she'll have a more important role as an undercover CIA agent.
She warned Jodie about Bourbon.

Kir is a pretty disposable character really after all the Eisuke plot ended (and thanks god that it did) so I don't expect major things of her.
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I mean,Akai risked his life for her to be able to come back into the BO,so I'm expecting more action from her...
I hope Gosho will find a way for her to stay undercover even if Bourbon discovers the truth about Akai.
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AICHAN wrote:I mean,Akai risked his life for her to be able to come back into the BO,so I'm expecting more action from her...
I hope Gosho will find a way for her to stay undercover even if Bourbon discovers the truth about Akai.
I sure hope to as well. But I'm a bit worried, since we haven't heard or seen her every since she reported about Bourbon. Except it seems Bourbon was exactly a new member, seeing as he's met Sherry's mom, dad, and sister before.
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Sorry to dig up a topic
If you ever wonder again if his identity is confirmed. Look at this (Taking from cbox)
Fujiwara: Gosho's New Year greetings (source: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2836355853 )
Fujiwara: You'll get to know Okiya's identity in the movie … maybe (laughs)
Conclusion: Gosho himself think it is not confirmed.
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Yeah i'm starting to have some last minute doubts now after reading cheks thread about it'
Subaru also has the same phone model as the 2nd oldest brother. . .
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