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I tried investigating that too but found no info on who was renamed Tsutomu. Insofar it seems those changes were made in some versions of "A Study in Scarlet" but two or three versions had anonymous translators. At least one was revamped to make it happen in Japan instead of England.
So if we assume it's a major character it could be Lestrade or the other police officer or the culprit of the case.
Moriarty doesn't have a "localized" name because by the time his name came out it'd seem the books respected the original English names.
Nevertheless there's not much info on that. Guess those editions are so old that there are only a few left and must be very hard to obtain.
I tried investigating that too but found no info on who was renamed Tsutomu. Insofar it seems those changes were made in some versions of "A Study in Scarlet" but two or three versions had anonymous translators. At least one was revamped to make it happen in Japan instead of England.
So if we assume it's a major character it could be Lestrade or the other police officer or the culprit of the case.
Moriarty doesn't have a "localized" name because by the time his name came out it'd seem the books respected the original English names.
Nevertheless there's not much info on that. Guess those editions are so old that there are only a few left and must be very hard to obtain.
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I agree that 富安力 might be a major character in A Study in Scarlet. As far as I could find, that tweet was the original source mentioned 富安力. https://twitter.com/221BJxxxSxxxx/statu ... 5459250176
The name list seemed to be a repo on the 3 volumes set "明治期シャーロック・ホームズ翻訳集成" (a collection of translation of Sherlock Holmes in Meiji Time), which came out in 2001 and contains different Japanese versions of A Study in Scarlet and The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes.
According to a brief intro, http://nada.c.ooco.jp/page017.html there were only two anonymous translators, one for A Study in Scarlet(血染の壁), another for The Adventure of the Copper Beeches(秘密の扉). Since two anonymous appeared in that tweet above, I guess either corresponds to one anonymous translator. So 富安力, just as 関戸礼造, was probably a character in Scarlet. I don't know exact pronunciations of both names. Maybe 富安力Tomiyasu Tsutomu and 関戸礼造Sekid(/t)o Raizou. The latter one sounds a little like Lestrade to me, while the former, Tobias Gregson?
Of course, this deduction is based on condition that Tsutomu Akai was named after 富安力. I really wonder if Mr. Akai would be designed as a non-Holmes/non-Watson character.
Could be. I stumbled upon the same source as you but any other searches led me back to this source and I was unable to find a source saying which character in Scarlet it was supposed to be.
Maybe Gosho's inspiration for "Tsutomu" actually comes from the word [務め], "tsutome" or "duty".
Maybe the whole Wada Shinichi thing is making us look in the wrong direction to begin with.
Could be. I stumbled upon the same source as you but any other searches led me back to this source and I was unable to find a source saying which character in Scarlet it was supposed to be.
Maybe Gosho's inspiration for "Tsutomu" actually comes from the word [務め], "tsutome" or "duty".
Maybe the whole Wada Shinichi thing is making us look in the wrong direction to begin with.
I thought there was a connection between "Tsutomu" name ("Tsu" - "To" - "Mu") and "Zumu", Char Aznable's(Akai inspiration) father... since "Zumu" is pronounced "Tsu" - "Mu" (missing only the "To")...
DC's Awesome Qoutes:
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common'' Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman'' Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...'' Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself'' Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
Spoiler pics have leaked, so I'm going to write a summary of the info we got
BREAK NEXT WEEK
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. Heiji uses the poem Wada chanted to explain that the culprit used a gap to see where all members were seated at
. Ran and Kazuha go to Ginza 4th district to see the Christmas lights: she doesn't mind that Heiji isn't here because she suspected he'd get flustered up
. Momiji talks over the phone with "Wada" as he removes the glasses and a wig to reveal he's actually her family's butler, Iori Muga (30 years old). It'd seem Momiji used him to evalutate Heiji 's skills and he seems satisfied with the end result. He mentions Kazuha but guesses Momiji will be able to handle things nevertheless.
and here I thought Wada would be an important character, and that Momiji would be a one-time character only appearing in the film..
Gosho you are confusing me
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I had the same thoughts but now I doubt it this butler design is really interesting and one of few characters having something like an evil aura at least to me he is to be feared and if gosho had in mind that wada shinichi was watson then the one who solved this is holmes and as far aa I got from the spoilers pics momiji solved this case faster than the three detectives in the crime scene maybe the whole Rum arc will be connected to heiji in a way or another
Too bad the well designed character serves as Momiji's butler while the terribly designed character, Wakita, serves as a Rum suspect.
Also, we're in issue 5-6 (http://www.websunday.net/) and the teaser says next file is in issue 8 so we're actually having two weeks of break (one magazine, one author).
"I wonder if there really is a God...
If such an entity really existed, wouldn't all honest, hard-working people be happy?"
and here I thought Wada would be an important character, and that Momiji would be a one-time character only appearing in the film..
Gosho you are confusing me
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I had the same thoughts but now I doubt it this butler design is really interesting and one of few characters having something like an evil aura at least to me he is to be feared and if gosho had in mind that wada shinichi was watson then the one who solved this is holmes and as far aa I got from the spoilers pics momiji solved this case faster than the three detectives in the crime scene maybe the whole Rum arc will be connected to heiji in a way or another
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if that's the thing i won't mind heiji's father being RUM Should I .Damn, Gosho A butler Duh ! Bro get some sleep !
In my opinoin this series was so confusing , all my thoughts turned out to be wrong , just what is gosho planning for ? Icant Guess at all .
Note: sorry not good at english
Now it seems that whole Shinichi Wada thing is a red herring.
What shocked me was that in one spoiler pic, Conan regarded the one behind Iori as a Holmes-like exsitence. As far as I can remember, he seldom think so highly of the others.
Since Shuukichi turned out to be a plot-related character, I wonder if that will be Iroi and Momiji's case.
Gosho got everyone hype for this thing. Momiji is supposed to just be in a love triangle right? Is it necessary for her to have one hell of a butler who can solve case faster than 3 detectives? That type of character should be used for plot. It will be a waste if he only functions as some kind of sidekick for Momiji's love. Or Gosho plans Momiji to be plot-related? Then Conan should got to know her and we don't know when will that happen in manga canon.
I wonder for it the same way. Momiji is a important character. Probably her father maybe theAnokata and thus she is being considered for the plot. And besides she will also star in the 21st as well so i don;t think gosho will add a love interest and a butler for No reason.
