Shukichi Haneda's relative(?) on the APTX list

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@Elixir: just a bit of advice. Posting images from external sites is frowned upon: whenever possible, try to post them from the DCTP Manga Viewer.

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Spimer wrote:@Elixir: just a bit of advice. Posting images from external sites is frowned upon: whenever possible, try to post them from the DCTP Manga Viewer.

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Elixir wrote:]
On the other hand, Chuu means middle, hence Chuukichi!
Which could also be a red haring because Chuu is also the onomatopoeia for kissing
With Yumi and Shuukichi being ex-lovers and all that is a possibility as well

honestly the possibilities are endlesssssssssss

I just thought it was really interesting that in the chapter that he is first mentioned
that Yumi is talking about "Chuukin" which sounds really similar to her pet name for him.
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@Elixir: "chuu" can mean many things, apart from middle. It depends on the Kanji used although the "chuu" that jimmy_kud0_tv2 suggested isn't Kanji.

In short: we can't jump to conclusions too quickly. The name might have no relation whatsoever: it might be just a random name Gosho made up to fill up the list.

The list wasn't intended to be that important or to reveal anything important save that Gin's words in chapter 1 had been retconned by then: if you look at the list you'll see that we are shown just a bit of it: it presumably contains many more names on it.

That means that APTX4869 had been used as poison several times before and after.

My point: it's higly probable that the name here (that could be read as Haneta, Hatane, Hata, Hada) is just a filler name with no relevance to the plot.
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Spimer wrote:@Elixir: "chuu" can mean many things, apart from middle. It depends on the Kanji used although the "chuu" that jimmy_kud0_tv2 suggested isn't Kanji.
thats the beauty of it all, the chuu in the word bubble that Yumi speaks it in, isn't in kanji either
チュウ吉
where the first three symbols are the "chuu" and the kanji after it is the "kichi"
Which leaves it up to interpretation. It technically can be any of the meanings.

(thats how it appears on page 4 of chapter 899 raw in the flashback of yumi and shuukichi talking at the restaurant)
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Yep I know that.
The thing is, jimmy_kud0_tv2 gave his interpretation of the nickname, I gave mine. And it's related the popular theory that he is the middle brother, (which I oppose). But, as you said, it could be anything. Why does giving an example seem bad?

To be honest, I think it's just name/term of endearment. It's understandable that jimmy_kud0_tv2 relates it to chuukin, with Yumi being a traffic officer and all.

People here find it interesting that the name Haneda was on the mermaid list. I also find it interesting that Shuukichi was mentioned, or rather existed way beyond his introduction.

It might just a filler name, highly possible, but it's interesting, and a lot of other details. That's why they are talked about.
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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:This thread hasn't been posted in for a while but I find it interesting!

The first name of the character on the list with the family name Haneda can be read as follows (according to dictionaries)
Koushi, Kouji, Goushi, Gouji, Hiroshi, Hiroji

We know that of the three siblings, that Akai was the fathers family name and that Sera was the mothers family name. I think that Masumi implied that she and the middle brother were both born with the last name Akai and then changed them to Sera when the father died. Then the middle brother changed his name to something else after graduating high school, meaning they all have different family names. Its incredibly unlikely that the mother would ever need to use the family name Haneda for any reason and unlikely that she would that name on the list, because Gin says that the drug he uses in the first episode has never been tested on humans which makes Shinichi the first human victim of the drug. Those people on the list would therefore all be victims that have occurred since the first episode of the series, but before Haibara appears since she has seen that part of the list.

That would mean that the BO went after the Akai mother while she was in America and that she was using the name Haneda at the time for a reason that is unknown, while Masumi was using the name Sera. The only way that could work out like that so that Shuukichi could be the middle brother is that both Shuukichi and the mother changed family names at the same time when Shuukichi graduated from high school, but Masumi kept her's as it is now. Why would the mother need to change her family name again to the same thing as the middle brother? Thats what doesnt make sense to me.

I find it far more likely that either the family name is a coincidence, or that Shuukichi has a relative that happened to be connected to the BO in someway but that he is not aware of the connection and that he is not the middle brother.



The reason that the chapter and episode "Secret path to the school" is marked as a BO related case in the wiki is because Conan and Haibara spend the first part of that case in the chapter of the manga talking about the events from BO vs FBI. Many of the cases on the Detective Conan World Wiki are marked as BO cases simply because the BO are talked about at the beginning of that case and nothing more. In that case specifically, there is a missing girl who supposedly looks similar to Haibara and a new teacher who looks really menacing due to his constant squinting. At first Conan and Haibara think that it has something to do with the BO and Haibara walks around with a hat to hide her hair for part of the story. They think that the new teacher is one of the BO and kidnapped a girl that looked like Haibara by mistake. It turns out very different by the end of the story.
Those given names are male, so the victim wouldn't be anyone's mother.
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Subaru n MG likely known Shukichi from somewhere, I think?
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