Where is it said that The Black Organization’s main research project was created >50 years ago ?

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Where is it said that The Black Organization’s main research project was created >50 years ago ?

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Hi guys. I've just read on the wiki that the Org's main research project, which will become the APTX project, was created >50 years ago, and the source is file 189, page 6. But on this page, Haibara only says :

Haibara : Kudo ? You would probably never dream... that you're already a part of... the BO's project...

So, is there a mistake, or...?
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Puto's sub of the corresponding episode, 130:

Kudō-kun...
You can't even imagine in your dreams...
You're already deeply connected to the secret project our Organisation's been working on
for half a century.

I don't have the English manga, might need to ask one of my friends.
The Japanese manga:
工藤君…?
あんたは夢にも思っていないでしょうね…
あなたはすでに…
我々組織が半世紀前から進めていた極秘プロジェクトに…
深く関わってしまっているなんて…
which, apart from saying "top secret" instead of "secret" is identical to the anime line. (Edited to replace the manga translation with a note and add the missing last line.)
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Re: Where is it said that The Black Organization’s main research project was created >50 years ago ?

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Here's Naoko Amemiya's translation from Viz Media's official release of the manga:
Case Closed volume 19, page 150 wrote:Kudo...
You have absolutely no inkling...
...that you're already involved...
... in the syndicate's top-secret project, 50 years in the making.
Deeply involved.
Lesson of the day:
Don't take for granted that ANY translation, official or unofficial, is correct, rather make sure they are.
In the case of Detective Conan, I dare say you're safe if you go with Viz Media's translation for the manga, and in the case of the anime in subtitled form, if you go with FUNimation, Baaro, M-L, and the majority of the DCTP fansubs. Though needless to say, every translation is prone to errors, so there's that, too.
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Thanks, that's what I needed. So yeah. The manga does explicitly mention the 50 years thing - OP prolly read some random scanlation, some of those aren't all that great.
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Then if it's true that the project was created more than 50 years ago, it means that the BO's boss might be aged by more than 50 years O.o
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OK, thanks. ^^
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Detective Doroshi wrote:Then if it's true that the project was created more than 50 years ago, it means that the BO's boss might be aged by more than 50 years O.o
Or there are two bosses. Could it be that the current boss is the son/acquaintance of the previous boss who started the BO.
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Nemomon wrote:
Detective Doroshi wrote:Then if it's true that the project was created more than 50 years ago, it means that the BO's boss might be aged by more than 50 years O.o
Or there are two bosses. Could it be that the current boss is the son/acquaintance of the previous boss who started the BO.
Maybe it's Renya Karasuma's son.
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