what if okiya is........

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Kor wrote:
still.looking wrote: You gave me another idea.

IDK if this has been suggested before, but...
What of the BO and the MK org are two really big underworld rival orgs? :o
it has been said. I honesty don't know why people think the two organizations are the same. no evidance, no refrence and no Gosho.
This is basically my ultimate wish, because I really don't want Kaito Kid to get involved. Kaito Kid already had his manga. combining the two would be confuzing and force conan fans to read it as well (that is unless Gosho will explain in Conan about Kaito's motives, but again, this is Detective Conan, and not Magic Kaito)
But they're so alike! Let's count the ways...

1) Kaito Kid's enemies are named after animals (more than likely animals that are frequently described in myth as being immortal or can ressurect themselves). Conan's are named after alchoholic drinks.
2) Kaito Kid's enemies entrust in myth and magic for their ultimate victory. Conan's enemies recruit scientists and computer programmers to get them what they want.
3) Kaito Kid's enemies are seeking a magical jewel that can apparently grant them immortality. Conan's enemies want to kill the scientist who could bottle the Fountain of Youth for them (with sufficient ... motivation ... of course).

How could they not be the same! ;)

Seriously though, while I don't think that Conan and Kaito Kid are fighting the same enemy (Kaito's enemies seem more like a cult than a syndicate to me), I think that Conan will have to help Kaito Kid with his problem before Conan can deal with the BO. I mean, he is protecting the scientist who could bottle the Fountain of Youth after all...
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Re: what if okiya is........

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In regards to the starting post...

What if... Okiya is another member of Akai's team (maybe the fellow seen in the last panel during the 2nd part of the developer's murder)...
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... assigned by Akai to keep an eye on Conan and Ai while he stays under deep cover, waiting for the BO to get sloppy?
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Re: what if okiya is........

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Oruncrest wrote:
Kor wrote:
still.looking wrote: You gave me another idea.

IDK if this has been suggested before, but...
What of the BO and the MK org are two really big underworld rival orgs? :o
it has been said. I honesty don't know why people think the two organizations are the same. no evidance, no refrence and no Gosho.
This is basically my ultimate wish, because I really don't want Kaito Kid to get involved. Kaito Kid already had his manga. combining the two would be confuzing and force conan fans to read it as well (that is unless Gosho will explain in Conan about Kaito's motives, but again, this is Detective Conan, and not Magic Kaito)
But they're so alike! Let's count the ways...

1) Kaito Kid's enemies are named after animals (more than likely animals that are frequently described in myth as being immortal or can ressurect themselves). Conan's are named after alchoholic drinks.
2) Kaito Kid's enemies entrust in myth and magic for their ultimate victory. Conan's enemies recruit scientists and computer programmers to get them what they want.
3) Kaito Kid's enemies are seeking a magical jewel that can apparently grant them immortality. Conan's enemies want to kill the scientist who could bottle the Fountain of Youth for them (with sufficient ... motivation ... of course).

How could they not be the same! ;)

Seriously though, while I don't think that Conan and Kaito Kid are fighting the same enemy (Kaito's enemies seem more like a cult than a syndicate to me), I think that Conan will have to help Kaito Kid with his problem before Conan can deal with the BO. I mean, he is protecting the scientist who could bottle the Fountain of Youth after all...
You r counting the ways that they r different ;D
Oruncrest wrote: In regards to the starting post...

What if... Okiya is another member of Akai's team (maybe the fellow seen in the last panel during the 2nd part of the developer's murder)...
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... assigned by Akai to keep an eye on Conan and Ai while he stays under deep cover, waiting for the BO to get sloppy?
Nice theory, actually. There are so many possibilities to choose from.  :-\
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My opinion is that, given that there are massive indicators that Okiya is Bourbon- Kir said that Bourbon was a detective genius and hey presto, so is Okiya, his comments about black, him saying that he'd know Shuuichi's face anywhere (Gin comments that Bourbon is obsessed with killing Shuu) and of course him drinking Bourbon- well, with that much evidence... he's not Bourbon  :D seriously, though, remember how much Aoyama-sensei made it look like Jodie was Vermouth at first, then he pulled a headmess by making it turn out to be Araide? Also, the Shuu we've seen, I'd say, isn't Shuu. He wouldn't be that stupid. It's possibly Bourbon, trying to lure Shuu out because he suspects he's alive. Okiya's probably Shuu, IMO.

I've also been watching out for background, unassuming characters like Araide. I'm praying that Aoyama-sensei won't be so predictable as to pull the same trick twice, but the one thing that i'm certain of is that Okiya is not Bourbon.

... if he is, Aoyama-sensei is SERIOUSLY messing with us.  :D
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mangaluva wrote: My opinion is that, given that there are massive indicators that Okiya is Bourbon- Kir said that Bourbon was a detective genius and hey presto, so is Okiya, his comments about black, him saying that he'd know Shuuichi's face anywhere (Gin comments that Bourbon is obsessed with killing Shuu) and of course him drinking Bourbon- well, with that much evidence... he's not Bourbon  :D seriously, though, remember how much Aoyama-sensei made it look like Jodie was Vermouth at first, then he pulled a headmess by making it turn out to be Araide? Also, the Shuu we've seen, I'd say, isn't Shuu. He wouldn't be that stupid. It's possibly Bourbon, trying to lure Shuu out because he suspects he's alive. Okiya's probably Shuu, IMO.

I've also been watching out for background, unassuming characters like Araide. I'm praying that Aoyama-sensei won't be so predictable as to pull the same trick twice, but the one thing that i'm certain of is that Okiya is not Bourbon.

... if he is, Aoyama-sensei is SERIOUSLY messing with us.  :D

That's the theory I'm going with.

BTW, Okiya didn't say that it was Shuu's face he saw, it was "a face that he had know for a very long time." Probably means that this "was" his face and he knows very well. (Obviously) But that theory is the best IMO. But if Akai turns out  to be really dead, I don't know what I'll do with myself.  :-\

Scar Akai = Bourbon | Okiya Subaru = Akai
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Mizzicco wrote: That's the theory I'm going with.

BTW, Okiya didn't say that it was Shuu's face he saw, it was "a face that he had know for a very long time." Probably means that this "was" his face and he knows very well. (Obviously) But that theory is the best IMO. But if Akai turns out  to be really dead, I don't know what I'll do with myself.   :-\

Scar Akai = Bourbon | Okiya Subaru = Akai
Of course, that also lends many, many ominous other possibilities... such as Conan or Jodie... or Genta... XDXDXD well, you never know.

Don't worry. Due to the Reiha Falls thing, I find it incredibly unlikely that Akai is dead. I kinda think he's Okiya, because i'm sure as hell that he's not Scar Akai.
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Question: What if Okiya is........Andre Camel?
Answer: The world will explode from the awesomeness of it all.
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kkslider5552000 wrote: Question: What if Okiya is........Andre Camel?
Answer: The world will explode from the awesomeness of it all.
then we've got two (Andre) Camels ... they met each other in the toilets after all. Ultra-mega-giga-tera story twist! Yeah! Let the crazy theories come!

And since the members on this board really seem to get the weirdest ideas about same-sex couples lately, I'll say it beforehand: NO, not in that way ... -_-
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It's because the slash fandom is hot and growing, and this pleases the fangirls of the KaiShin Army  ;D

Perhaps he's shrunk too and in a few days some creepy emo kid is going to transfer to Teitan Elementary.
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mangaluva wrote: It's because the slash fandom is hot and growing, and this pleases the fangirls of the KaiShin Army  ;D

Perhaps he's shrunk too and in a few days some creepy emo kid is going to transfer to Teitan Elementary.
Not necessarily Teitan Elementary, but funny. ;D
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