proof that okiya is not bourbon (volume 67) ?

Forum reserved for discussing specific points of the story—mostly from the manga. Be warned, these discussions will be current with the manga and will spoil many plot lines for anime-centric fans.
Post Reply
moon600

Posts:
3

proof that okiya is not bourbon (volume 67) ?

Post by moon600 »

VOLUME 67
chapter 703
page 5

Okiya said "for those holding their breath, waiting with impatience in this heat,.. I'd like to treat them to some hot, bitter coffee"
He is talking about Gin and the others.
What's your opinion ?





Sorry, I don't speak english very well[img]http://[/img]
Last edited by moon600 on December 29th, 2010, 1:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Feb914

Posts:
95

Re: proof that okiya is not bourbon (volume 67) ?

Post by Feb914 »

Yea, this is a possible proof that Okiya is not a BO member, he's an enemy of one. But maybe Bourbon doesn't get along with other BO members like Gin, and thus having bitter cooperation, and this statement is made to satirize Gin.
sstimson
Everyone a Critic

Posts:
2588
Contact:

Re: proof that okiya is not bourbon (volume 67) ?

Post by sstimson »

But he has another statement  like 'wolf lose their prey'. Also he seem happy about that. That would suggest that scar and him are not emenies but rivals and both not BO.
Later

Invisible Member
Spoiler: SS Present from PT
Image
User avatar
Conan 48:69

Posts:
1228

Re: proof that okiya is not bourbon (volume 67) ?

Post by Conan 48:69 »

Both Akai and Okiya used a word "wolf" to mention BO, is that another hint to say Akai and Okiya are the same person or another connection for Jodie and Vermouth, Jodie used Vermouth quote "The Secret Makes A Woman, Woman" in order not to forget Vermouth. So Okiya (if he is Bourbon) uses wolf in order not to forget Akai.

But I prefer Okiya is BO member Bourbon more than Okiya is Akai, this story will be much better.
Last edited by Conan 48:69 on January 1st, 2011, 6:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image
Welcome To DCTP Radio Show! From DJ Conan!
sstimson
Everyone a Critic

Posts:
2588
Contact:

Re: proof that okiya is not bourbon (volume 67) ?

Post by sstimson »

    You might have miss my second point. Since he saw both Scar and the Bo , and acted happy about the BO not being able to get "wolf's prey", that strongly suggest he dislikes the BO and it goals. That suggest He is not BO and your second idea is wrong.

    As for the First, that would be too obvious and I do not think Gosho would use the same trick twice. Age and face structure look wrong. Scar has his scar, Okiya does not. Ran kick proved it was not a mask. And the Personality is wrong for Akai to be Okiya.

    And I still think "bourbon does not exist but as a test code phase to find the spy in their organization.  The Bo has found Spies in the member before. Examples are Rye and Kir's Father.
Later

Invisible Member
Spoiler: SS Present from PT
Image
doublemoonlight
I am such a fool...

Posts:
744

Re: proof that okiya is not bourbon (volume 67) ?

Post by doublemoonlight »

sstimson wrote:     You might have miss my second point. Since he saw both Scar and the Bo , and acted happy about the BO not being able to get "wolf's prey", that strongly suggest he dislikes the BO and it goals. That suggest He is not BO and your second idea is wrong.

    As for the First, that would be too obvious and I do not think Gosho would use the same trick twice. Age and face structure look wrong. Scar has his scar, Okiya does not. Ran kick proved it was not a mask. And the Personality is wrong for Akai to be Okiya.

    And I still think "bourbon does not exist but as a test code phase to find the spy in their organization.  The Bo has found Spies in the member before. Examples are Rye and Kir's Father.



so what you are saying is that Okia is ordinary uni student. Well I don't think so as this episode shows that he can recongise who BO is and as far as DC universe is concedrend anyone who has link to BO is anything but normal.
FANFICTION:http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2489646/doublegengar05
1 Timothy 3:9- They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with clear conscience
xpon wrote: Almost all police is Detective Conan is less importance than the Detectives.....
Image

1st Doctor: One day I shall come back, yes I shall come back. Till then there shall be no fears, no tears and no anxieties, just go forward in your beliefs and prove to me I am not mistaken in mine. Good bye Susan. Good bye  my Dear.
sstimson
Everyone a Critic

Posts:
2588
Contact:

Re: proof that okiya is not bourbon (volume 67) ?

Post by sstimson »

Okiya is likely to be FbI and has been very well briefed. As for the Bo in the window, note other person saw that as well. His see the Bo is down to seeing the Car Gin drives and then smiling or reacting. Otherwise none.
Later

Invisible Member
Spoiler: SS Present from PT
Image
User 4869

Posts:
597

Re: proof that okiya is not bourbon (volume 67) ?

Post by User 4869 »

sstimson wrote: Okiya is likely to be FbI and has been very well briefed. As for the Bo in the window, note other person saw that as well. His see the Bo is down to seeing the Car Gin drives and then smiling or reacting. Otherwise none.
So he know Jodie but don't want Jodie to recognize him (and she did not). They don't work together. If Okiya Subaru is actually exist and is FBI. He probably take care of Haibara right now. But that mean he also put Haibara in danger because it easy for BO to tell he's FBI and they will know she is Sherry. But if he's Akai it didn't increase the risk. Akai disguse as Okiya, Sherry disguise as Haibara, same risk (actual double it for poor Conan who also in disguse)
User avatar
Shuusgirl
Sweet revenge...

Posts:
312

Re: proof that okiya is not bourbon (volume 67) ?

Post by Shuusgirl »

User 4869 wrote:
sstimson wrote: Okiya is likely to be FbI and has been very well briefed. As for the Bo in the window, note other person saw that as well. His see the Bo is down to seeing the Car Gin drives and then smiling or reacting. Otherwise none.
So he know Jodie but don't want Jodie to recognize him (and she did not). They don't work together. If Okiya Subaru is actually exist and is FBI. He probably take care of Haibara right now. But that mean he also put Haibara in danger because it easy for BO to tell he's FBI and they will know she is Sherry. But if he's Akai it didn't increase the risk. Akai disguse as Okiya, Sherry disguise as Haibara, same risk (actual double it for poor Conan who also in disguse)
Yeah, he can't be a new FBI agent.  Besides, then there'd be more FBI agents in Japan than America!!!  ;)
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." --Sherlock Holmes
Yeah Kogoro, did you read this one?
Post Reply