Teeny-tiny questions on DC#30

[samcurt]

Got CC#30 in the mail, and re-ran the stories-- and then these teeny-tiny questions that IIRC are translation-independent.
Twlight MansionSunset Manor
1. Who actually owned that manor? Granny Senma? I'm sure Marple didn't have that much money.
2. How thick can the gold covering on the manor be? If it's just a layer of gold leaves, I think the historical preservation have to be called in.

Genta's Misfortunes
1. Appreantly that whisper Conan gave to Genta contained the entire detailed script for the else of 30:9. How long can that be?
2. In the eyes of a person steeped in the Common Law tradition, I found the scene inside the lift elevator a bit... unorthodox, in terms of criminal procedures. So the set up was that Sato and the hairdresser were both in the lift, and after the kids and the criminal came in, the hairdresser said "It's Him," Conan solves the case, criminal tried to kill Genta, Sato knocked the criminal down and arrested him. Would the entire thing be scripted a bit to well for the Fifth? (Of course I know the Japanese law operates differently, but still...

[caribou]

ah, isn't the new owner of the mansion

Spoiler:

the plump detective that was poisoned first? it was explained later in the granny's confession, that he was broke after buying the mansion, and decided to get detectives to come in and find the treasure...

i don't know about the gold leafing and such though. i had the impression that it was entirely made of gold, or at least a pretty thick layer of gold on top of the foundations, or it wouldn't be such a great treasure...? :S

lol. that's a good point you made but i think it's possible. the kids were all listening in to Conan's whispering for some time after all.

andd I'm not very familiar with criminal procedures, but this is still just a manga after all. and like what you said possibly japanese law allows for this kind of set-up.

[TheBlind]

Got CC#30 in the mail, and re-ran the stories-- and then these teeny-tiny questions that IIRC are translation-independent.
Twlight MansionSunset Manor
1. Who actually owned that manor? Granny Senma? I'm sure Marple didn't have that much money.
2. How thick can the gold covering on the manor be? If it's just a layer of gold leaves, I think the historical preservation have to be called in.

Genta's Misfortunes
1. Appreantly that whisper Conan gave to Genta contained the entire detailed script for the else of 30:9. How long can that be?
2. In the eyes of a person steeped in the Common Law tradition, I found the scene inside the lift elevator a bit... unorthodox, in terms of criminal procedures. So the set up was that Sato and the hairdresser were both in the lift, and after the kids and the criminal came in, the hairdresser said "It's Him," Conan solves the case, criminal tried to kill Genta, Sato knocked the criminal down and arrested him. Would the entire thing be scripted a bit to well for the Fifth? (Of course I know the Japanese law operates differently, but still...

I don't know much of Japanese law as somethings are completely different from American law but I'll take a shot at the second one. Neither did the police or Conan have enough evidence to catch the culprit on his original crime, which is why the set up the bait on the elevator. The culprit pulling out his knife with the intent of harming Genta was an all new crime all together(which is why Sato didn't intervene up to the point Genta was in immediate danger) which had various witness, including a police officer. So in a American court room, they basically conceited the original crime(due to lack of evidence) and now are going after him for attempted murder on a child and this opens the door for the prosecution to introduce facts and testimony about the original crime(robbery) to sway the jury & judge as it's relevant to the current case( but either way, he's still in custody and on trail for attempted murder on Genta not the robbery and would get the max for that unless the police/prosecution found evidence to attach the robbery during the "attempted murder" sentencing but that would be unnecessary as the judge would most likely rule for concurrent sentencing anyway(meaning he would serve both sentences for each crime at the same time and the one they have strongest evidence for is the one he's already going to do the most time for).

Also by the fifth, did you mean entrapment?
Criminal was using his fifth by lying in response to all of Conan's deductions and gave up the right the moment he pulled the knife on Genta. Moment he pulled the knife he incriminated himself because he essentially admitted with that action that they were right about their deductions even though they didn't have strong evidence against him. Yeah, he could of kept his cool, walked out of the elevator and with a good lawyer beat the case but him trying to kill Genta, a kid, for an entire episode using things like giant letters shows you he wasn't a bright individual.

[samcurt]

I don't know much of Japanese law as somethings are completely different from American law but I'll take a shot at the second one. Neither did the police or Conan have enough evidence to catch the culprit on his original crime, which is why the set up the bait on the elevator. The culprit pulling out his knife with the intent of harming Genta was an all new crime all together(which is why Sato didn't intervene up to the point Genta was in immediate danger) which had various witness, including a police officer. So in a American court room, they basically conceited the original crime(due to lack of evidence) and now are going after him for attempted murder on a child and this opens the door for the prosecution to introduce facts and testimony about the original crime(robbery) to sway the jury & judge as it's relevant to the current case( but either way, he's still in custody and on trail for attempted murder on Genta not the robbery and would get the max for that unless the police/prosecution found evidence to attach the robbery during the "attempted murder" sentencing but that would be unnecessary as the judge would most likely rule for concurrent sentencing anyway(meaning he would serve both sentences for each crime at the same time and the one they have strongest evidence for is the one he's already going to do the most time for).

Also by the fifth, did you mean entrapment?
Criminal was using his fifth by lying in response to all of Conan's deductions and gave up the right the moment he pulled the knife on Genta. Moment he pulled the knife he incriminated himself because he essentially admitted with that action that they were right about their deductions even though they didn't have strong evidence against him. Yeah, he could of kept his cool, walked out of the elevator and with a good lawyer beat the case but him trying to kill Genta, a kid, for an entire episode using things like giant letters shows you he wasn't a bright individual.

I have no problem about the attempted murder thing. Sato saw all that, and that's not my point. My thing is whether can they still pursue the snatching case on the court.

[TheBlind]

I don't know much of Japanese law as somethings are completely different from American law but I'll take a shot at the second one. Neither did the police or Conan have enough evidence to catch the culprit on his original crime, which is why the set up the bait on the elevator. The culprit pulling out his knife with the intent of harming Genta was an all new crime all together(which is why Sato didn't intervene up to the point Genta was in immediate danger) which had various witness, including a police officer. So in a American court room, they basically conceited the original crime(due to lack of evidence) and now are going after him for attempted murder on a child and this opens the door for the prosecution to introduce facts and testimony about the original crime(robbery) to sway the jury & judge as it's relevant to the current case( but either way, he's still in custody and on trail for attempted murder on Genta not the robbery and would get the max for that unless the police/prosecution found evidence to attach the robbery during the "attempted murder" sentencing but that would be unnecessary as the judge would most likely rule for concurrent sentencing anyway(meaning he would serve both sentences for each crime at the same time and the one they have strongest evidence for is the one he's already going to do the most time for).

Also by the fifth, did you mean entrapment?
Criminal was using his fifth by lying in response to all of Conan's deductions and gave up the right the moment he pulled the knife on Genta. Moment he pulled the knife he incriminated himself because he essentially admitted with that action that they were right about their deductions even though they didn't have strong evidence against him. Yeah, he could of kept his cool, walked out of the elevator and with a good lawyer beat the case but him trying to kill Genta, a kid, for an entire episode using things like giant letters shows you he wasn't a bright individual.

I have no problem about the attempted murder thing. Sato saw all that, and that's not my point. My thing is whether can they still pursue the snatching case on the court.

....you missed my point, they have NO reason to prioritize the robbery case and can put it on the back burner as they have him for a much larger crime that covers the time he would of done for the robber anyway. Yes they can still go after him for the robbery indirectly via the attempted murder case because Genta seeing him do the robbery would be the motive(something they have to establish to sway the jury and judge) for that case anyway. It scares me that you are worried more about a crime that has minimal jail time over one that can have you in jail for the majority of your life  .

[samcurt]

....you missed my point, they have NO reason to prioritize the robbery case and can put it on the back burner as they have him for a much larger crime that covers the time he would of done for the robber anyway. Yes they can still go after him for the robbery indirectly via the attempted murder case because Genta seeing him do the robbery would be the motive(something they have to establish to sway the jury and judge) for that case anyway. It scares me that you are worried more about a crime that has minimal jail time over one that can have you in jail for the majority of your life  .

Well, I didn't really finished reading your reply when I typed the reply...