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Has anyone ever read these cases? I can't find them. Please help!

Posted: October 4th, 2009, 6:04 pm
by DTH10
I posted this over in the other DC forum but nobody has heard of these manga cases or know what I'm talking about so I'm just reposting them over here, hoping someone would remember reading these before. I only remember the general plot of them so I gave a description, any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

"I started reading Detective Conan in Vietnam when the manga was being translated and sold over there. I borrowed them from my friend so I don't have the actual manga books but I remember clearly that there were many murder cases in the books that I just couldn't find them anywhere. I'm pretty sure I didn't imagine these up. Here are a few example cases with plot like below (just general story of how they went, not detailed since it was 8 years ago that I read them)

1/ The victim was riding the train and he fell asleep on it. He has a fear of earthquake due to him experiencing it in the past, where he would run outside if he felt it. So the culprit put some colored paper on the window and pulled the emergency brake right when the train was going across a bridge. The sudden stopped woke the victim up and startled him so he got scared and jump out the window since he thought he was still in his house due to the color paper(?) He fell down to the river below and died. One of the clue has something to do with broken window and the fact that the glass were cleaned up I think.

2/ A company president was planning to put the blame on one the the employee for his corruptions when things go bad, so he was murdered by the employee. During a speech, he accidentally spilled some tea on his sleeve. During the speech, he was shot. The trick was that the employee put sleeping pills in his drink and prepared his vest with blood packs that will explode, making people think he was shot. After he fell unconscious, the culprit yelled out he saw the shooter in the purple jacket in the back to get everyone away. It was then that he shot the president point blank then change his vest and shirt, hid them in the curtain of the stage. The reason Conan saw through the trick was because there was no way anyone could see the color of the jacket of someone in the back of the room since it was pitch dark and far away. He also noticed the stain of the tea on the victim's cuff was gone.

3/ This one I don't remember much but two gamers duel each other. One died due to electrocution. The light went out when he was electrocuted. The trick was the sole of his shoes were metal so they conduct electricity. He died in front of a tournament style arena of tons of people.

4/ This case I only remember vaguely. It has something to do with firecracker and a warehouse with no roof. The victim was dropped from a crane high above down to the middle of the warehouse with no roof. Everyone has alibis.

5/ A writer got shot. The culprit was his wife(?) and the revolver was found. However Conan noticed that the hammer of the revolver was cocked when it shouldn't be because the mechanics of the revolver is single action. It was assumed that the culprit left it at the scene after the shooting so it should be de-cocked. The trick was that the culprit use a beam of sunlight, reflecting off a mirror of the wall and shine it onto the primer of the bullet, which is why the hammer has to be cocked to expose the back of the bullet for the sun beam. One of the clue was the mirror on the wall, it was moved to aim the beam. There was an area of the wall fit with the size of the mirror that was whiter than the rest, suggesting that it was moved from its original place.

Now that I think about it, these cases are so far fetched that its kinda ridiculous, but Gosho also wrote some bizarre cases too. I'm just wondering if these aren't his work? Who drew these and wrote the stories? I remember that the art style for these cases are not at all different from the others, which made me think they weren't fan made stuff. Plus it was translated by the books printing company at the time. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please help because I'm going crazy not able to find these. Thank you and sorry for the super long post.

If I remember any more of these, I will update with the outline of the story to the best of my memory."

Re: Has anyone ever read these cases? I can't find them. Please help!

Posted: October 4th, 2009, 6:22 pm
by kkslider5552000
I would assume they are from the infamous fan "Special Volumes" (2 of the cases were used in the anime...somehow).

Re: Has anyone ever read these cases? I can't find them. Please help!

Posted: October 4th, 2009, 6:23 pm
by sexysmirk
I'm up to volume 30 and haven't heard of any of these, so if they are from DC then it's in the books higher than that. Sorry I can't be of any more help. :-\

Re: Has anyone ever read these cases? I can't find them. Ple

Posted: October 4th, 2009, 6:35 pm
by DTH10
The weird thing is that I remember the drawing style was exactly the same at that time so I didn't think it was any different at the time. I have already finished and kept up with the latest file but I haven't seen any of these cases yet. However I also remember a lot of the actual cases by Gosho with details years later on like the triplet case, the bus hijacking, the twins sister in the locked bathroom, the camp hunt, poison needle in the game room, appearance of Haibara and the soccer stadium, the mermaid case, Osaka 3K, the guy who kills women with baseball bats... to mention a few, so I'm sure I didn't make them up or just imagining these cases. I know for sure I have read #1,2, and 5 before since as you can see, I can still recall a lot of details from them.

To kkslider: Do you happen to know where I can find scans for those special volumes? Or just pages of them? Or if you have them, would you mind uploading them?

Re: Has anyone ever read these cases? I can't find them. Ple

Posted: October 4th, 2009, 6:40 pm
by kkslider5552000
DTH10 wrote: To kkslider: Do you happen to know where I can find scans for those special volumes? Or just pages of them? Or if you have them, would you mind uploading them?
I have no idea where they are.

Re: Has anyone ever read these cases? I can't find them. Ple

Posted: October 4th, 2009, 6:42 pm
by Schillok
Yes, they are the "special cases" which were not drawn by Gosho but by his assistant instead. I recognize the 1st, 4th and 5th case at least.
They are considered as inferior to the regular cases... shorter, simpler and without relevance to the storyline.

Actually I enjoyed reading some of them. {They were released here - or at  least some of them, it was canceld after a while... no idea about other countrys though}

Re: Has anyone ever read these cases? I can't find them. Ple

Posted: October 4th, 2009, 6:45 pm
by DTH10
Schillok wrote: Yes, they are the "special cases" which were not drawn by Gosho but by his assistant instead. I recognize the 1st, 4th and 5th case at least.
They are considered as inferior to the regular cases... shorter, simpler and without relevance to the storyline.

Actually I enjoyed reading some of them. {They were released here - or at  least some of them, it was canceld after a while... no idea about other countrys though}
Do you happen to know where I can find them? Or any traces of them? I searched all over Google but still see no signs of them.

Re: Has anyone ever read these cases? I can't find them. Ple

Posted: October 4th, 2009, 7:46 pm
by Abs.
Seriously, your best bet is to find a local bookshop that sells Japanese books.  I've no idea where you're at, but in California they'd be Book-Off, Kinokuniya, etc...

I gave up on reading those because I didn't want to be confused.  Also, I've come to strongly dislike non-canon...

Re: Has anyone ever read these cases? I can't find them. Ple

Posted: October 4th, 2009, 11:36 pm
by Eve
Abs. wrote: Seriously, your best bet is to find a local bookshop that sells Japanese books.  I've no idea where you're at, but in California they'd be Book-Off, Kinokuniya, etc...

I gave up on reading those because I didn't want to be confused.  Also, I've come to strongly dislike non-canon...
Yeah, they are in Kino, ^_^

Re: Has anyone ever read these cases? I can't find them. Ple

Posted: October 5th, 2009, 12:29 am
by DTH10
Do they have them in English?