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not really, I pretty much expected that chris vineyard was vermouth the entire time

however, I was still wrong anyway, because I thought jodie was a disguised chris vineyard, so oh well.

no but Araide being shown after they show Jodie and Shuichi is funny in retrospect

kkslider5552000 wrote: no but Araide being shown after they show Jodie and Shuichi is funny in retrospect

yeah lol

same with me, I thought Jodie was Vermouth.


But, dude after I rewatched 340,

Conan324 wrote: Did the opening spoil anything about vermouth to you?

because there is a scene where they show chris along with gin and vodka, maybe this spoiled stuff for some people.

so...did you get spoiled?

But at that point we know that Chris Vinyard is Vermouth (we're actually told that around the time of the Desperate Revival, I think, certainly long before this part). We just don't know who Vermouth is disguised as--we're led to believe that she's Jodie (thus the High School Teacher vs Great Western Detective case). Part of this is Jodie quoting her "A secret makes a woman, woman" catchphrase. So seeing Chris Vinyard with Gin and Vodka isn't a spoiler. Seeing Araide-sensei with them would be.

It is weird seeing a spoiler in the opening...luckily,it didn't spoiled me 
Also,in opening 5,they show Haibara before she appeared in chapter 129.
Gosho should stop doing that,someone can get hurt/spoiled 

yeah the Kir thing was the only one that actually spoiled anything.

I was pratically rooting for Araide once he started following Jodie so I assumed he was going to be a hero or something crazy until the plot twists started.

No. I'm an episode-skipper. I don't watch Dc continuously.

Conan324 wrote: Did the opening spoil anything about vermouth to you?

because there is a scene where they show chris along with gin and vodka, maybe this spoiled stuff for some people.

so...did you get spoiled?

How exactly could it spoil if after the "meeting with the black organization" we saw Chris sitting in Gin's car and she spoke with Gin and Vodka? It was like 150 episodes before that opening that we knew that Chris was in the black organization.

Conan324 wrote: but dr.araid was shown after tha, , normally, we would think that he has a role in the story.

There are a minor characters that are in the OPs and have no roles in the story. like Yumi or Chiba. Just because someone appears in the OP doesn't mean they are so important.
Since Araide was with Jodie and Akai in the OP we were probably meant to think that he has some kind of role, but Gosho also wanted us to believe that Jodie is Vermouth and that Akai is also someone suspicious. But we couldn't really guess that Araide was actually Vermouth. More to that, in that OP, they both appear so if it does something, it's the opposite of spoiling.

Anyway OPs shouldn't be taken much into thoughts. Just because in OP 25 there was a picture that showed Shinchi along with all the B.O. members, mean that he is part of the B.O.? Why not actually? he could be Bourbon...great detective skills indeed.  ;D