Cases you liked the LEAST
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Cases you liked the LEAST
There's a topic for the best cases, so here's one for the cases that are really lame, or wouldn't actually work. (Or whatever other reason you might hate them.)
Please list a specific reason that you don't like the case, preferably more thought out than "it features a character I don't like".
For me, it's the Eri's Testimony case (files 610 to 612, episodes 505&506).
Why?: Aoyama-sensei Did Not Do The Research. Ok, it only sticks out to me because I work in a salon, but...
File 611, page 8, second panel: (Eri is speaking) "I came at 8 o'clock, and had a shampoo for 10 min. Next a coloring for 20 min. Afterward a shampoo again for 10 min. Then I had a perm for 10 min. Then once again a shampoo for 10 min. And then I had my hair cut for 15 min. Finally I had my last shampoo for 10 min, and got my hair blow-dried and cut which took another 10 min. Which makes it almost an hour and a half, right?" Now, it could be argued that some of that is translation, but it shows up in the anime version exactly the same. There are a number of things wrong with the timeline given. An hour and a half is a reasonable length of time for a color, but the description doesn't match. Also, you can't do a color and a perm on the same day (too many chemicals all at once will damage the hair, I think--I'm not a stylist so I'm not entirely sure, but I have heard my coworkers explaining to clients that you need to space out perms and colors by about 2 weeks). Color is usually applied to dry hair, so she wouldn't've been shampooed when she first came in. Color usually takes about 20-30 min to process (the "drying" Eri refers to later) during which time the stylist can leave to take care of whatever else needs doing (several of my coworkers regularly use the processing time to grab lunch, or they'll fit in another client). She also lists having her hair cut twice, and way too many shampoos. It just doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, I'm being picky. Then again, this is about stuff I see daily at work. I get even pickier about muscles/anatomy. (That being what I actually deal with in my line of work.)
Please list a specific reason that you don't like the case, preferably more thought out than "it features a character I don't like".
For me, it's the Eri's Testimony case (files 610 to 612, episodes 505&506).
Why?: Aoyama-sensei Did Not Do The Research. Ok, it only sticks out to me because I work in a salon, but...
File 611, page 8, second panel: (Eri is speaking) "I came at 8 o'clock, and had a shampoo for 10 min. Next a coloring for 20 min. Afterward a shampoo again for 10 min. Then I had a perm for 10 min. Then once again a shampoo for 10 min. And then I had my hair cut for 15 min. Finally I had my last shampoo for 10 min, and got my hair blow-dried and cut which took another 10 min. Which makes it almost an hour and a half, right?" Now, it could be argued that some of that is translation, but it shows up in the anime version exactly the same. There are a number of things wrong with the timeline given. An hour and a half is a reasonable length of time for a color, but the description doesn't match. Also, you can't do a color and a perm on the same day (too many chemicals all at once will damage the hair, I think--I'm not a stylist so I'm not entirely sure, but I have heard my coworkers explaining to clients that you need to space out perms and colors by about 2 weeks). Color is usually applied to dry hair, so she wouldn't've been shampooed when she first came in. Color usually takes about 20-30 min to process (the "drying" Eri refers to later) during which time the stylist can leave to take care of whatever else needs doing (several of my coworkers regularly use the processing time to grab lunch, or they'll fit in another client). She also lists having her hair cut twice, and way too many shampoos. It just doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, I'm being picky. Then again, this is about stuff I see daily at work. I get even pickier about muscles/anatomy. (That being what I actually deal with in my line of work.)
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The Case of the Midnight Channel
"When a strange letter summons the Mouri family to Inaba, Ran is expecting a case. She's not expecting it to involve the TV, though.
If Naoto investigated everyone who came to visit Inaba, she'd have little time for real cases. When Yukiko reports that the Midnight Channel is back, however, she starts to wonder if the visitors are connected. Especially when the image clears, unveiling yet another mystery."
If Naoto investigated everyone who came to visit Inaba, she'd have little time for real cases. When Yukiko reports that the Midnight Channel is back, however, she starts to wonder if the visitors are connected. Especially when the image clears, unveiling yet another mystery."
Short version: I'm taking various DC/MK characters to Inaba (where Persona 4 takes place) and dropping them through the TV to face their Shadows!
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I approve of this topic. However, I can't think of anything to contribute to it, as after 544 episodes my brain has pretty much thrown out my easily recallable memories of any case that I didn't categorize as "totally sweet".
Um, uh...
*looks at the sub list*
I guess "the dissonance of the stradivarius" wasn't that good of a case. It was alright, but I don't think it was really warranting of being a 3-part episode, so it sort of dragged on for me.
Um, uh...
*looks at the sub list*
I guess "the dissonance of the stradivarius" wasn't that good of a case. It was alright, but I don't think it was really warranting of being a 3-part episode, so it sort of dragged on for me.
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meh, i just hate most cases with ran in it...she messes up everything
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Outside of cases I doubt anyone likes that much (recent 1 ep. AOs, 383) and my hatred of Blue Spark of Hate aside (it's the dumbest Haibara "character development" ever that made me hate it more than anything), it would have to be The Evil Spirit Appears on an Unlucky Day (you might remember it as that 3 part case that has both of the Yokomizo brothers and a really cool security door thing). And I don't even think it's that bad of a case. It's just really boring.
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I have seen up to 194 but the case I hate the most is what the funi dub titled "shopping can be murder" it the detective boys episode where they are at a shopping day for little kids type thing.it was the most annoying thing I have ever seen in an anime, and I do not find the DB episodes to be that bad or annoying.
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Shiragami-sama case.
Just thinking about it makes me irritated
And generally speaking the movies though I wouldn't call them cases.
Just thinking about it makes me irritated
And generally speaking the movies though I wouldn't call them cases.
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Um....this was sort of supposed to be about cases you don't like and WHY you don't like them.
"Ran messes everything up" is not really an explaination. Neither is "It makes me irritated" without explaining what part is irritating. An episode being "annoying" isn't quite what I ment either. I was mostly looking for cases in which there's a detail that just doesn't fit or wouldn't actually work that way.
"Ran messes everything up" is not really an explaination. Neither is "It makes me irritated" without explaining what part is irritating. An episode being "annoying" isn't quite what I ment either. I was mostly looking for cases in which there's a detail that just doesn't fit or wouldn't actually work that way.
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The Case of the Midnight Channel
"When a strange letter summons the Mouri family to Inaba, Ran is expecting a case. She's not expecting it to involve the TV, though.
If Naoto investigated everyone who came to visit Inaba, she'd have little time for real cases. When Yukiko reports that the Midnight Channel is back, however, she starts to wonder if the visitors are connected. Especially when the image clears, unveiling yet another mystery."
If Naoto investigated everyone who came to visit Inaba, she'd have little time for real cases. When Yukiko reports that the Midnight Channel is back, however, she starts to wonder if the visitors are connected. Especially when the image clears, unveiling yet another mystery."
Short version: I'm taking various DC/MK characters to Inaba (where Persona 4 takes place) and dropping them through the TV to face their Shadows!
Cross-posted:Case of the Midnight Channel at Archive of our Own.- Chekhov MacGuffin
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The Red Wall case is the one that comes to mind first. It hasn't been animated yet so the reason why it irritated me is in spoilers.
I'll forgive the contributing writers, so long as they don't produce another wallbanger for a while...
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I don't like the episodes where Sonoko is the one being the detective, I never liked her. lol
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Ah my bad, it's just that I ranted about this everywhere already. I'll make it short.miakakiri wrote: Um....this was sort of supposed to be about cases you don't like and WHY you don't like them.
"Ran messes everything up" is not really an explaination. Neither is "It makes me irritated" without explaining what part is irritating. An episode being "annoying" isn't quite what I ment either. I was mostly looking for cases in which there's a detail that just doesn't fit or wouldn't actually work that way.
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I assumed that Makoto was shocked to such a ridiculous level that his mind...I dunno...subconsciously blocked out the true explanation of what happened in that case because that was what shocked him in the first place?kirite wrote:Ah my bad, it's just that I ranted about this everywhere already. I'll make it short.miakakiri wrote: Um....this was sort of supposed to be about cases you don't like and WHY you don't like them.
"Ran messes everything up" is not really an explaination. Neither is "It makes me irritated" without explaining what part is irritating. An episode being "annoying" isn't quite what I ment either. I was mostly looking for cases in which there's a detail that just doesn't fit or wouldn't actually work that way.
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And the only coincidence was the prototype antidote being accidently used. I think.
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Meh.Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: The Red Wall case is the one that comes to mind first. It hasn't been animated yet so the reason why it irritated me is in spoilers.I'll forgive the contributing writers, so long as they don't produce another wallbanger for a while...Spoiler:
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So...75% of the cases then?KaitoKid0 wrote: meh, i just hate most cases with ran in it...she messes up everything
Also, I agree with Nyarl on that Shiragami case. It felt like it was going to be a fun case with potential. It got me very excited, but four chapters in it became very obvious how it was going to play out. White-haired Monkeyman in the trees was the biggest indicator. Gee, a mysterious costumed character lurks around and shows up unannounced during the peak of the resolution. Hmm. I wonder who that could be. Sounds familiar, amirite guys?
I felt like the case could have been handled a lot better. As it's been said, a lot of it hinged on coincidence far too much and some general idiocy (WAIT, HE ACTUALLY DID FIGURE IT OUT AND I TOTALLY WIPED IT FROM MEMORY OUT OF SHOCK AND TOTALLY LOST MY FANBOY FEELINGS WITHOUT THIS KNOWLEDGE AND JOINED THE UNINITIATED PUBLIC, BRB PLASTIC SURGERY). A lot of mysteries have a coincidence or two (breaks in real-life cases often are coincidental), but this case was so bogged down in it that it fell flat on its face.
The way the temporary transformation was handled after the case felt hamfisted with its 'wait, what the hell was supposed to happen here?' tone and contained a lot of clumsiness in writing and the way the characters interacted. I know Ran was supposed to act worried and upset that something was wrong, but it was terribly overplayed and made her out to be a weepy worry-wart ninny, to the point that she lived up a lot of fan exaggerations about her sensitive personality flaws. I didn't like the way she was written at all. Though in retrospect, she may have been as confused and flustered as I was reading it.
I know I sound very pissy with my Capslock Abuse and profanity when talking about it, but I'm THAT annoyed with what resulted, which is unusual since I can easily suspend disbelief quite easily in DC. I was expecting this to be a great "you just blew my mind, holy cow" case, kept close tabs on spoilers whenever they came out, waited anxiously for raws, and...ugh. Not to get all Butthurt Fan Self-Entitlement on this (more than I already have), but it felt like a real slap in the face in the end. Just a real stinker of an arc; every comic series has at least one.
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KaitoKid0 wrote: meh, i just hate most cases with ran in it...she messes up everything
I usually don't like any of the detective boy cases w/o haibara in it. It's like...why have a detective boy cases if shes not even going to be in, seriously....like that one momotaro one or w/e.

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It seems that the episodes are almost the same thing..
Conan Cases (with Mouri in it):
1.) Go somewhere on vacation
2.) Someone you know is there
3.) Meet up, have a fun time
4.) Someone gets killed
5.) Mouri is (most of the time) an idiot and has no idea what is going on
6.) Conan finds evidence
7.) Conan knows who did it
8.) Conan makes Mouri sleep
9.) Conan accuses
10.) The end
However, ones with Kaito Kid and the Black Organization are different, they are more exciting, and thrilling.
If you added some kind of Black Organization plot to each of the episodes, it's better that way.
I don't really like the Detective Boys case because it's normally weird stuff that they look too hard on and end up finding something that leads to a murder/kidnap/dog killing spree. IMHO, kinda pointless. Nothing about Black Organization is found, etc.
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Conan Cases (with Mouri in it):
1.) Go somewhere on vacation
2.) Someone you know is there
3.) Meet up, have a fun time
4.) Someone gets killed
5.) Mouri is (most of the time) an idiot and has no idea what is going on
6.) Conan finds evidence
7.) Conan knows who did it
8.) Conan makes Mouri sleep
9.) Conan accuses
10.) The end
However, ones with Kaito Kid and the Black Organization are different, they are more exciting, and thrilling.
If you added some kind of Black Organization plot to each of the episodes, it's better that way.
I don't really like the Detective Boys case because it's normally weird stuff that they look too hard on and end up finding something that leads to a murder/kidnap/dog killing spree. IMHO, kinda pointless. Nothing about Black Organization is found, etc.
My 3 and a half cents,
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