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Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 15th, 2009, 5:17 pm
by sstimson
A lot of people like chapter / episodes where Ran suspects Conan being Kudo

My question is this Is it likely that she knows and is just trying to find the proof to force him to tell her what she already knows?

Facts: Great genes ( Lawyer Mom ( A very Good One! ) and Detective Dad ( better when he was with the force )
Has solved a few cases by herself ( though one might say helped by Kudo Teaching )
Knows Heiji like to pretending to be Kudo ( A puzzle piece )
She told Conan Before his real mom Picked him up Almost exactly how he became small.
Last case had Conan disappear when Kudo showed and reappear when Kudo Vanished

Missing Puzzle Pieces:
Conan Tie (she can hear the two different voices. she just needs to figure how how A can sound like B while A )
Ai pretending to be conan (She might figure this one out by seeing Ai with Conan's Hat on )
Then again the reverse has happened. She saw Conan dressed as Ai!

I think it is not a Suspicion any more. Like Conan so many She knows who did it but does not yet have the proof.
when she gets the proof Conan better look out!

Sorry if this has been a topic before. Did not mean to scam if so.

Later

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 15th, 2009, 5:26 pm
by Shinran
Well, right now Ran is suspicious. Before, she just thought that Conan's a smart cookie. Which he is. Shinichi is just smarter than Ran, is all. Ran is pretty bright, but she isn't as fast at solving things like Shinichi is. Part of this might be inherited from her dad, because he wasn't the best policeman/detective ever. And even when her dad was in the force (ie Moon Ghost) he couldn't solve several things like Shinichi's father.

However, Eri is pretty smart, and thus Ran has inherited deduction skills from her, with a little push from Shinichi.

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 15th, 2009, 5:28 pm
by ShinRan36
In the file 695 she gets suspicious again..

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 15th, 2009, 6:33 pm
by kkslider5552000
ShinRan36 wrote: In the file 695 she gets suspicious again..
spoilers  :(

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 15th, 2009, 6:36 pm
by Shinran
kkslider5552000 wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote: In the file 695 she gets suspicious again..
spoilers  :(
It isn't that much of a spoiler, since the file is out in English already. Or am I wrong?

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 15th, 2009, 8:33 pm
by kkslider5552000
Shinran wrote:
kkslider5552000 wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote: In the file 695 she gets suspicious again..
spoilers  :(
It isn't that much of a spoiler, since the file is out in English already. Or am I wrong?
from what I understand, the other forum is for discussing the manga related stuff that hasn't been in the anime yet

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 16th, 2009, 1:22 am
by bluekaitou1412
I bet Ran will only know Conan is Shin'ichi is when the series is about to end.

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 16th, 2009, 1:31 am
by baka1412
bluekaitou1412 wrote: I bet Ran will only know Conan is Shin'ichi is when the series is about to end.
Considering the story did HAVE an ending Image

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 16th, 2009, 1:32 am
by bluekaitou1412
baka1412 wrote:
bluekaitou1412 wrote: I bet Ran will only know Conan is Shin'ichi is when the series is about to end.
Considering the story did HAVE an ending Image
lol.

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 16th, 2009, 3:30 am
by cashman_11
Well I don't know, after 695, Ran seems to be getting suspicious of Conan again, but, I really hope Gosho goes somewhere different with it this time, because I'm getting a little tired of the end to every confession/suspicion case being some stupid joke or lope hole. The series just doesn't seem to be going anywhere main character relationship-wise. It's really annoying to see every Kogoro+Eri/Heiji+Kazuha/Ran+Shinichi case end in disappointment.

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 16th, 2009, 4:08 am
by Nyarl
kkslider5552000 wrote:
Shinran wrote:
kkslider5552000 wrote:
ShinRan36 wrote: In the file 695 she gets suspicious again..
spoilers  :(
It isn't that much of a spoiler, since the file is out in English already. Or am I wrong?
from what I understand, the other forum is for discussing the manga related stuff that hasn't been in the anime yet
If it makes you feel any better it's just speculation about a couple of things she's asked, nothing confirmed or even that strongly implied yet.

As for the general question, Ran seemed to be treating Conan and Shin'ichi as separate persons at the end of his most recent appearance as Shin'ichi (Shiragami. etc.) {spoiler for ep 532-533/file 668-669}
Spoiler:
She was pretty quick to retract her offer to bathe with in the scar case though. Hard to say if it means anything in canon, but she was frowning after Conan's Yaiba excuse in the anime adaptation. She might be quietly suspicious again as early as here.
I do think {673}
Spoiler:
Conan messed up by gloating to the culprit with Ran nearby. She was definitely frowning there... though it could have been directed at the culprit.
{693, 695}
Spoiler:
She's definitely wondering about how Shin'ichi's fingerprints got on the handcuff fragment in Heiji's charm now. I think folks are reading too much into the other bit of dialogue, though. Ran knows by now Conan is smart enough to solve certain things on his own, whether or not he's Shin'ichi. Ran's been shown explicitly noticing when Conan figures something out, even when he doesn't say anything, at least since Eisuke was still around. I guess she might be wondering why he's reluctant to take credit, but Conan was quick to change tactics when it was clear playing dumb wasn't going to work. If she is suspicious though, she's probably thinking about asking someone like Takagi to compare some fingerprint samples by now. Conan can't weasel out of that proof. Heh, I wonder if having Conan's and Shin'ichi's prints matched would draw the Org's attention...

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 16th, 2009, 4:40 am
by baka1412
Takagi is smart enough, and I'm certainly sure he does..  Image

If Ran bring over the fingerprints to Takagi, even thought Takagi would find out about conan = Shinichi, he wouldn't tell Ran and said the fingerprint didn't match.

Reason is, Takagi at least knows that Ran were close with Shinichi, so he must be wondering why did Ran must ask him about this ?
Takagi would come into conclusion, if Conan / Shinichi didn't even told Ran who were close to him, then Shinichi / Conan must be in somewhat dangerous situation where he needed to stay in secret..

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 16th, 2009, 7:28 am
by Found
but would heiji give ran the charm in the first place? he does know that ran can't know.. and that would *probably* make him one of the org's targets. all in all, a beautiful setup for the ending.. (which i'm not ready for yet :()

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 16th, 2009, 7:44 am
by ssjup81
baka1412 wrote: Takagi is smart enough, and I'm certainly sure he does..  Image

If Ran bring over the fingerprints to Takagi, even thought Takagi would find out about conan = Shinichi, he wouldn't tell Ran and said the fingerprint didn't match.
But what logical reason would Takagi have to compare prints in the first place?  Neither committed a crime so they aren't suspected criminals.  Logically, there's no reason for Takagi to have to take Conan prints in the first place, and I doubt saying, "I think Conan is really Shinichi" sounds plausible at all.

Re: Ran's Suspicion?

Posted: June 16th, 2009, 7:49 am
by Nyarl
still.looking wrote: but would heiji give ran the charm in the first place? he does know that ran can't know.. and that would *probably* make him one of the org's targets. all in all, a beautiful setup for the ending.. (which i'm not ready for yet :()
Heiji's actually back to asking why Shin'ichi doesn't just tell Ran the truth, as if he wasn't particularly convinced by what Haibara said. He'd still leave the decision to Shin'ichi though.

But, why would she need Heiji's charm? There must be something she knows Shin'ichi has touched but haven't been cleaned. {movie 13}
Spoiler:
Movie 13 used the prince costume from the play as a source of Shin'ichi's prints.
Certainly she has plenty of access to Conan's prints.

She also wouldn't necessarily tell anyone whose prints she's comparing. She'd just want to know if prints from two different things match. It'd be bad luck if someone decides to compare them with what the police have on file and that leads to the Org. involvement or someone like Takagi deciding to lie for "her own good."