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THIS THREAD CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR MOVIE 20. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED, DO NOT READ THIS THREAD.



If you have any spoilers to report, feel free to post them here and only here. Even though this thread is titled and has a warning, USE SPOILER TAGS REGARDLESS.




Do not leak any of the spoilers you see here into the main movie discussion thread
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Potential Movie 20 Spoilers! Not guaranteed for accuracy, proceed with caution
Spoiler: Regarding the third handsome man
He is Jinpei Matsuda. Apparently he was friend with Amuro in the Police Academy. He taught Amuro how to disable bombs.
Spoiler: Regarding the heterochromatic woman
Her codename is Curacao. She most likely died at the end.
Spoiler: Regarding Rum
He/She was computer-voiced. At the end of the movie, the cast list either didn't include him or have his/her VA.
Spoiler: Regarding Bourbon and Kir
The movie ended before their identities were discovered.
Spoiler: Regarding the ending
Similar to M18. Conan kicked a soccer ball to illuminate the setting so that Akai can aim and shoot.
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Spoiler:
As expected, nothing will actually happen. Those who were hoping for some impact on canon were wrong for the 20th time. :P
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Feel like the appearance of Matsuda is popularity-motivated. I remember in one interview, Gosho mentioned that his editors want him to draw more Matsuda story because he is so popular (Gosho prob wants him to stay dead as the way it is. Some stories are best left untempered, like he said about Fusae Campbell's story)...I guess that spilled over to the movie.
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cchanged wrote:
Spoiler: Regarding the third handsome man
He is Jinpei Matsuda. Apparently he was friend with Amuro in the Police Academy. He taught Amuro how to disable bombs.
Spoiler:
Ohhhhhhhhh!...

I did not expect that, but if this is true, then that's great! ;D
cchanged wrote:
Spoiler: Regarding the heterochromatic woman
Her codename is Curacao. She most likely died at the end.
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Curacao—"a liqueur flavored with the peel of bitter oranges."

Died? No surprise there...
cchanged wrote:
Spoiler: Regarding Rum
He/She was computer-voiced. At the end of the movie, the cast list either didn't include him or have his/her VA.
Spoiler:
...or there...
cchanged wrote:
Spoiler: Regarding Bourbon and Kir
The movie ended before their identities were discovered.
Spoiler:
...or there...
cchanged wrote:
Spoiler: Regarding the ending
Similar to M18. Conan kicked a soccer ball to illuminate the setting so that Akai could aim and shoot.
Spoiler:
Cue disappointment for repetition.
Wakarimashita wrote:
Spoiler:
As expected, nothing will actually happen. Those who were hoping for some impact on canon were wrong for the 20th time. :P
Spoiler:
I expected the manga canon to influence the movie, not the other way around.
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I clicked on the spoilers, I don't even care anymore

it's always the same thing,
Spoiler:
they make us think something epic is gonna happen in the movies
, but as waka said it's not the case
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I bet the Kir and Bourbon thing ended in some sort of a cliff-hanger to get people to read the manga X(

Also isn't Curacao a liquor? Naming convention ruined!
Wow.
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MrDetective wrote:I clicked on the spoilers, I don't even care anymore

it's always the same thing,
Spoiler:
they make us think something epic is gonna happen in the movies
, but as waka said it's not the case
Spoiler:
And this is why movies should not be bound by canon—it would give so much more license for all kinds of possibilities.

But, again, manga influences the movies—not the other way around.
LadyCider wrote:
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I bet the Kir and Bourbon thing ended in some sort of a cliff-hanger to get people to read the manga X(

Also isn't Curacao a liquor? Naming convention ruined!
Spoiler:
We'll have to see if the current manga case is a three-file one, as many think. If so, then 957, the file that will come out alongside the movie (in terms of the text spoilers coming out on the same day), will be the first file of a new case.

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Spoiler:
Meh, I don't care at this point, all I wanted to see is Akai vs Amuro.
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Uchiha Shadow wrote:
Spoiler:
Meh, I don't care at this point, all I wanted to see is Akai vs Amuro.
Spoiler:
Then you're gonna be waiting until October to November, unless you live someplace where you can see Movie 20 in theaters.
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
Uchiha Shadow wrote:
Spoiler:
Meh, I don't care at this point, all I wanted to see is Akai vs Amuro.
Spoiler:
Then you're gonna be waiting until October to November, unless you live someplace where you can see Movie 20 in theaters.
Spoiler:
Yeah that is true, but it's better late than never.
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A write-up of the storyline until almost the half-way point from tumblr http://yuzujapan.tumblr.com/post/142896 ... e-plot-and
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Out of all the movies, this one has the most badass opening and introduction. It starts with the “Odd eye” woman (I’ll call her “Odd Eye” until the actual name is revealed) in a disguise looking over a large computer database in a building. It flips through several names: Stout, Aquavit, Riesling, Rye, Bourbon…A NOC list. Everyone’s cover is being blown. The Public Security Bureau busts in and tries to capture Odd Eye. She flees and escape by stealing a car.

Amuro chases after her in his RX-7 into the highway. Akai sees them and follows. Amuro isn’t having it and the two agressively drive and drift with Odd Eye hitting cars. She gets out her phone and type out a text about the NOC list. Those cars are turned into obstacles and nearly hit the fighting duo. She hits a large truck and it flips and flies over the rails (they’re over water at this point). She jumps as well and the car lands from truck to a lower part of the highway. She curses (in English!) as the path in front of her is a traffic jam. Akai backs off and Amuro, thinking he’s won, chases after her.

Odd Eye isn’t going to get herself captured so she drives into oncoming traffic…the other way. She’s speeding, dodging, and back towards Amuro and Akai. Akai has different plans and has set up his rifle to shoot at Odd Eye. She speeds the maximum the car can go and hides beneath the dashboard. Akai shoots at a front tire making it fly into the waters below them. Amuro, at this point, returns back to Akai and the two proclaim they’re the ones to have her. Amuro leaves when he hears the police sirens and Akai gets a call.

Odd Eye emerges onto land and as she sees the fireworks and bright lights of the Touto Aquarium’s Ferris Wheel, she blanks out into a scream.

Character introduction starts and the story begins. The next day, Conan and the Detective Boys are heading to Touto Aquarium’s newly constructed theme park (So many theme parks in this series that I swear it feels like Anokata is the owner of all these parks. Unfortunately, it’s owned by the Suzuki Financial Group. This is important for later). Conan’s watching the news about the crash from last night and everyone else is excited for the Aquarium’s new ferris wheel. The news switches stories to the Touto Aquarium and everyone (except Genta and Agasa) is watching. The reporter explains the the renewal of the Aquarium and it’s expansion.

They finally get there and the Detective Boys want to ride the ferris wheel. Agasa, remarks that he’ll buy the tickets for both the ferris wheels if they answer the quiz.
Quiz Time! : “What color changes when it’s heavily mixed?”
1. Red 2. Blue 3. Brown 4. Black.
Answer: Brown. It’s a Japanese pun on the colors. majirikkenashi means to make the color concentrated or darker. So red (aka) would turn deep red (makka), blue (ao) would turn deep blue (massao), black (kuro) would turn pitch black (makkuro), and brown (chairo) would turn into maccha, not dark brown but instead matcha, the color of green tea. Conan and Haibara remarks that he’s childish for bringing out this quiz. The three Detective Boys make a dash to the ticket counter for the ferris wheel with Agasa trying to chase them. Conan notices a bruised and battered woman sitting on the bench, spacing out.

Conan remarks about her heterochromatic eyes and Haibara comes over. Odd Eye has amnesia. They ask her all sorts of questions but she doesn’t remember. Next to her is a nearly destroyed smart phone and broken glass from a windshield of a car (Conan remarks: This is from an older car model. Newer cars have a film to keep a broken windshield from splattering glass fragments all over the place.) Conan takes the broken smart phone and the Detective Boys show up with tickets. Ayumi remarks about Odd Eye’s pretty eye colors and the two explain to the group about her. Conan takes pictures of Odd Eye but she gets up to leave as police was mentioned in the group. Conan remarks that they won’t contact the police and only took a picture so they can find people connected to her.

Of course, Conan sends it to Ran and asks for Mouri Kogorou to find out about her. At the detective agency, Ran shows the picture of Odd Eye to her dad, who is hungover. He didn’t catch everything Ran said as he was more than happy to meet the beautiful woman. “I’ll take the case!!” and runs off to Touto Aquarium. Ran also sends the photo to Takagi to investigate (causing Megure, Chiba, and Sato to follow thinking she’s the reason for the crash last night).

After receiving no contact after the text sent from last night, Vermouth tries to trace back a certain someone’s movements. She finds a jacket which belonged to Odd Eye and sees Touto Aquarium across the way. She ducks into one of the Aquarium’s restaurants and sets up a face recognition program to find Odd Eye. As soon as she’s found, Vermouth reports to Gin that she found Odd Eye. Gin tells her to quickly get her and get back to base.

Back to Conan, the Detective Boys decides to help Odd Eye recover her memories. Ayumi, Mitsuhiko, and Genta takes Odd Eye to a darts game and she throws a perfect score. She wins three dolphin keychains which the kids take. Conan yells at them when they find the group and Agasa gets their attention that the line to the ferris wheel isn’t busy. The kids pull Odd Eye towards the ferris wheel. Conan asks the staff of the darts game if they ever seen her before but with no luck. They give Conan a pure white dolphin to give to Odd Eye; saying that it’s actually an incomplete dolphin because it has no color. Haibara starts to question if she’s in the Black Organisation. Conan realises this as he looks at the perfect triple bullseye Odd Eye threw. They make their way to the ferris wheel.

Odd Eye lines up with the Detective Boys and Agasa (Conan and Haibara still haven’t reached anywhere near yet.). Vermouth walks up and leaning against the rail, tells Odd Eye to follow her. Odd Eye ignores it and follows Agasa, saying she thought someone was calling her out. Vermouth realises something is wrong and reports it to Gin. She leaves for now. Conan and Haibara show up and they find the group already far into the line around the third floor (they’re on a conveyor belt like they use for airports). Genta yells for them but loses balance and grabs the edge of the open floor; about to fall. Odd Eye tries to save him and as Genta falls from losing his grip, she does an acrobatic performance saving Genta. In the end, Agasa was the one who receives the most damage as Genta kicked him as he was falling off the edge. After seeing that performance, Haibara starts freaking out as her Black Organisation senses are going wild. She drags Conan for a private chat and says that she might be Rum. Conan isn’t completely certain yet but it’s highly likely she is.

Agasa, who was supposed to watch the group, is playing with the birds by feeding them popcorn and them getting attached to him like a fairy tale princess (This scene is probably the cutest thing ever. Imagine him just in his own little world with pigeons on his head and shoulders.). Ayumi, Mitsuhiko, and Genta plot to get into the ferris wheel with Odd Eye and leave when everyone else is busy. Once they get on and get near the top, Odd Eye is in pain as she starts to remember. She mumbles NOC, Stout, Aquavit, and Riesling. Ayumi contacts Conan and in turn Conan contacts the police and ambulance. Conan, Satou, Megure, and Takagi listen to the doctor about her amnesia and her color contact was found in her eye. Vermouth listens outside the door as they talk about transferring her to the police hospital.

Meanwhile in London, Stout gets on a open top sightseeing bus as instructed by the Black Organisation. He reports it then is sniped by Korn. In Toronto, Aquavit is leading an edge walk tour on the CN Tower. A helicopter comes near the CN Tower and Chianti snipes Aquavit. In Berlin, Riesling is being shot and being chased by Vodka. Gin comes from the front of her and shoots her dead as she tries to escape into the river. Gin announces that they’re going back to Japan and to finish killing off the remaining people from the NOC list: Kir and Bourbon!

Back in Japan, James received news that the three members are dead. Conan is in the car with James, Jodie, and Camel. James explains that if Odd Eye regains her memories and spills about the NOC list, the world will go into a panic. Agasa received the broken smart phone from Conan earlier and trying to recover any data.

As much as I want to continue writing, this is not even halfway through the movie. I will finish the rest tomorrow in another post as I’m quite exhausted.
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Translation :
Spoiler:
Man : That's enough.
Man : You're surrounded.
Man : Give up. We've finally caught you.
Man : Furuya-san, are you all right ?
Furuya : Yes.
Furuya : These eyes...Is it possible that... ?
Man : Furuya-san, take cover.
Man : Don't move.
Furuya : Wait !
Police man : Wait !
Police man : Stop it. It's dangerous.
Furuya : Who are you ?
Furuya : Akai ?!
Fukuya : Go away Akai. She's for the Japanese police.
Woman : Shit.
Furuya : If we don't stop her. The world will tumble into chaos.
Furuya : No way !
Furuya : In reverse ?
Woman : Rye !
Woman : Interesting. You'll see.
Furuya : Akai...You bastard.
Akai : It's me. We've lost her. I'll call back later.
Person on the phone : Got it.
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Don't post in this forum illegally uploaded footage from the film.
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