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Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 2:32 pm
by Sachi
So how do you think each BO member will end up?
This is what I think will happen
Anokata: Is revealed to have been already dead and the one pulling the strings from the shadows was Vermouth. Anokata is revealed to be some unimportant old geezer from the land down under
Vermouth: She fakes her death inside a burning building with assistance from Conan, hands him the antidote in the process and reappears few days later as Sharon Vineyard
Kir: Also fakes her own death during the heavy fire in 2nd confrontation between the FBI and BO, while in actuality being whisked away to a safe house where she is reunited with her brother and returns as Hidemi and in return 'kills off' Conan when the time comes for him to take the antidote.
Gin: The bastard dies via every possible cause of death.
Tooru: Sissy boy dies from a bullet to his head in his attempt to be of use and bring Sherry back to HQ, courtesy of joint effort between Rye and Sherry herself.
Vodka: Falls in a ditch, breaks both of his arms, has his eyeballs eaten away and is never seen again. This is the punishment for him for causing the butterfly effect and wrecking the lives of so many people in turn.
Akemi: It's revealed that Akemi that died isn't the real Akemi, but was in actuality *drumroll* one of Kaito 1412's many dummies. He happened to be there at that exact moment and did what he had to do *shrugs* Plus, he is the old friend of Conan's family, therefore, it's only natural for him to save the girl Conan desperately wanted to save as the repayment to his 'obasaan' Yukiko Kudo nee Fujimine.
The others: Too unimportant/freaky to address
Your thoughts?
Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 2:42 pm
by Uchiha Shadow
I just want to ask, do you really believe that what you said will happen? Anyway I won't argue except about Akemi and Vermouth, when it comes to Vermouth she can't just go back to being Sharon, since she's supposed to be dead, she should go back to being Chris, as for Akemi, it will be just stupid if it turns out she's alive, she had literally more than 900 chapters to appear yet she didn't, she's dead, and if anything, Kaito kid has nothing to do with it as that happened long before he and Conan met.
Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 2:45 pm
by Sachi
Yes, I really believe that. After all, good guys win, bad guys lose has always been my credo and my mentality.
Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 2:53 pm
by Uchiha Shadow
No I meant the way you described it, it's just not the way Gosho does things, but you can believe whatever you want.
Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 7th, 2015, 3:07 pm
by Mario2000
I hope Vermouth doesn't escape, Jodie's parents have to be avenged, and that guy killed on a ship by the "wolf mask" character should be too.
Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 20th, 2015, 7:45 pm
by Iwamoto Yuri
Already posted this before, but I will again~
This is what I think will happen:
Gin is shot and Vodka will either kill himself due to being cornered with Gin's body or be arrested.
Sherry will most likely not make it to the end (though I wouldn't be surprised if Gosho wouldn't let her die either)
Kir dies before the BO can be brought down. The watch on her is bad as it is.
Vermouth will vanish, as she always does.
Chianti will definitely kill herself, as she won't let herself be cornered by FBI. Korn will most likely do the same.
And Amuro will most likely help Conan in the end.
That and Anokata will turn out to be Genta's dad

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Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 20th, 2015, 8:00 pm
by Mario2000
Iwamoto Yuri wrote:Already posted this before, but I will again~
This is what I think will happen:
Gin is shot and Vodka will either kill himself due to being cornered with Gin's body or be arrested.
Sherry will most likely not make it to the end (though I wouldn't be surprised if Gosho wouldn't let her die either)
Kir dies before the BO can be brought down. The watch on her is bad as it is.
Vermouth will vanish, as she always does.
Chianti will definitely kill herself, as she won't let herself be cornered by FBI. Korn will most likely do the same.
And Amuro will most likely help Conan in the end.
That and Anokata will turn out to be Genta's dad

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But what do you think will happen to the boss, whoever he/she is? Suicide, gunned down by the police or jail?
And I still think that hitmen like Vodka, Chianti and Korn will be gunned down or arrested, but suicide will be for high-ranking members. From a literary point of view, usually suicide is considered a too pompous ending for low-level characters who aren't particularly intelligent. Not saying this is right or wrong, but that's the impression I got.
And about Vermouth again: wouldn't it be weird if Gosho allows one of the major guilty parties without redeeming qualities to escape, while he spends so much time through Conan's character to make boring/hypocritical speeches about the law even to the criminals with plenty of extenuating circumstances? I mean, Vermouth escaping would be realistic and I'm afraid that's what indeed is going to happen, since I am always a pessimist, but if we analyze Gosho's morality, wouldn't it be weird if he allows that just because of Vermouth being a too smart and charismatic character to be thrown in a cell handcuffed like a common pick-pocket?
Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 21st, 2015, 12:26 am
by Jecka
I'm offended that Korn (and Chianti, I guess) were missed in the first post. I agree with most of what Yuri, but I'm kinda thinking Korn and Chianti will be arrested. Could go either way tbh.

Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 21st, 2015, 2:55 am
by Shinichi Edogawa
I don't think Vermouth will vanish. It will be disappointing because she's a charismatic and ambiguous character and have an important role in the BO. She's most likely to die at the end, probably by saving Shinichi and Ran, it will be a good way to redeem herself. Anokata is linked to Vermouth and he's probably going to die at the end.
For Gin, I think he'll be killed by Akai during a duel. Kir is in great danger now that Gin is tracking spies but the only good character who died was Akemi, so we have to wait for the next confrontation.
Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 21st, 2015, 6:48 pm
by Iwamoto Yuri
Mario2000 wrote:But what do you think will happen to the boss, whoever he/she is? Suicide, gunned down by the police or jail?
I can't say, if it actually was Genta's dad he'd most likely go with the police out of his own volition... We know too little about Anokata besides him liking a kids song and alcohol names.
Mario2000 wrote:And about Vermouth again: wouldn't it be weird if Gosho allows one of the major guilty parties without redeeming qualities to escape, while he spends so much time through Conan's character to make boring/hypocritical speeches about the law even to the criminals with plenty of extenuating circumstances? I mean, Vermouth escaping would be realistic and I'm afraid that's what indeed is going to happen, since I am always a pessimist, but if we analyze Gosho's morality, wouldn't it be weird if he allows that just because of Vermouth being a too smart and charismatic character to be thrown in a cell handcuffed like a common pick-pocket?
But at the same time we learn how everybody deserves to live. Plus we hardly know what Gosho actually thinks about the law, or his morality. What we read are his work of fiction, possibly influenced by his editor. I still think Vermouth will vanish. Not out of the blue though, maybe she helps Conan with things first, we all know she hates what she got caught up in and helping Conan and then escaping would probably a great way for her to start again. Just as long as she's sure no one searches for immortality (I think she hates Sherry because she was the main researcher and doesn't want her to spread the word. She didn't seem to like anyone involved with that, if I remember correctly.)
Shinichi Edogawa wrote:I don't think Vermouth will vanish. It will be disappointing because she's a charismatic and ambiguous character and have an important role in the BO. She's most likely to die at the end, probably by saving Shinichi and Ran, it will be a good way to redeem herself.
But she's also charismatic enough to slip through the cracks and go poof in the end.
Shinichi Edogawa wrote:Kir is in great danger now that Gin is tracking spies but the only good character who died was Akemi, so we have to wait for the next confrontation.
But when she actually died (when she disguised herself with braids and glasses to get Kogorou to track down her loot) we didn't know she was important. It's why the anime kept her alive and messed that up, so they had to kill her again.
Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 22nd, 2015, 7:14 am
by Shinichi Edogawa
Iwamoto Yuri wrote:
But at the same time we learn how everybody deserves to live. Plus we hardly know what Gosho actually thinks about the law, or his morality. What we read are his work of fiction, possibly influenced by his editor. I still think Vermouth will vanish. Not out of the blue though, maybe she helps Conan with things first, we all know she hates what she got caught up in and helping Conan and then escaping would probably a great way for her to start again. Just as long as she's sure no one searches for immortality (I think she hates Sherry because she was the main researcher and doesn't want her to spread the word. She didn't seem to like anyone involved with that, if I remember correctly.)
Shinichi Edogawa wrote:I don't think Vermouth will vanish. It will be disappointing because she's a charismatic and ambiguous character and have an important role in the BO. She's most likely to die at the end, probably by saving Shinichi and Ran, it will be a good way to redeem herself.
But she's also charismatic enough to slip through the cracks and go poof in the end.
Your point of view is interesting and it can happens, but I doubt Conan will let her vanish like that. She killed Jodie's parents and wanted to killed her by burning the house, will Jodie let Conan help her to leave? I don't think. And she killed many people (she may have been the serial killer in New York and manipulated a guy in volume 42 to kill someone), she can redeem herself if she die trying to save Shinichi and Ran.
Re: Black Organization Fates
Posted: July 22nd, 2015, 12:49 pm
by Iwamoto Yuri
I didn't say Conan would like her to not that he will help. She's just too sneaky, anyway.