How much of the series counts as "old school" for you?

Brekclub85 · Post by **Brekclub85** » August 10th, 2014, 2:22 am

Since the manga has been going for a good 20 years now and the anime's at almost 750 episodes, when you think back on it, what is, in your minds, the cutoff for what you count as old-school DC? (This isn't a question of "do you think it's gone downhill", it's more like, it's more like how a case from 2010 is technically older, something from say 1999 would definitely be far in the past)

For me, I would say the showdown with Vermouth in volume 42 it what serves as the cutoff between old-school DC and just simply older DC stories. While I still enjoy the later part of the series very much, once the FBI became more heavily involved in the plot, for some reason the world of DC felt different after this arc, at least IMO

kkslider5552000 · Post by **kkslider5552000** » August 10th, 2014, 2:51 am

the pre-Haibara stuff and maybe the pre-Vermouth arc proper (so early 200s is the cutoff date)

The Vermouth arc is the actual point where the cases stopped being (as) consistently great and all the crazy plot turns just don't feel "old" to me.

Nemomon · Post by **Nemomon** » August 10th, 2014, 6:59 am

Hard to say, but I think I can count everything with old drawing style as "old school".

But to be more precise I would say that everything before Rei announced that he's Bourbon is "old school". He's the newest BO member so far and he announced that already a while ago.

usotsuki · Post by **usotsuki** » August 10th, 2014, 7:33 am

283, the last cel episode

Wakarimashita · Post by **Wakarimashita** » August 10th, 2014, 8:51 am

usotsuki wrote:283, the last cel episode

This.

dilbertschalter · Post by **dilbertschalter** » August 10th, 2014, 11:38 am

Pre-Vermouth. Alternatively, pre-Desperate Revival.

Wakarimashita · Post by **Wakarimashita** » August 10th, 2014, 12:12 pm

Wakarimashita wrote:
usotsuki wrote:283, the last cel episode
This.

I'll add that there are basically three phases imo :
1-283 : Old school (round art and darker colours)
284-504 : Intermediate (lots of variations during this phase, comes off as a slow transition from the old school to the modern phase)
505-Present : Modern (HD, angular, very bright colors)

Juzagal · Post by **Juzagal** » August 10th, 2014, 1:02 pm

Wakarimashita wrote:
I'll add that there are basically three phases imo :
1-283 : Old school (round art and darker colours)
284-504 : Intermediate (lots of variations during this phase, comes of as a slow transition from the old school to the modern phase)
505-Present : Modern (HD, angular, very bright colors)

k11chi · Post by **k11chi** » August 10th, 2014, 5:50 pm

Yeah I think it has 3 parts too and after 504 it's been pretty much the same minus the darker lines they started using recently.

Wakarimashita · Post by **Wakarimashita** » August 10th, 2014, 5:58 pm

k11chi wrote:Yeah I think it has 3 parts too and after 504 it's been pretty much the same minus the darker lines they started using recently.

The upcoming day where phase 3 has more episodes than phase 1 will be the darkest day in Conan's history.

usotsuki · Post by **usotsuki** » August 10th, 2014, 8:24 pm

AFAICT there were switches at 284 (digital switch), 453 (HD switch) and 694 (resolution increase)... not aware of any others

Jecka · Post by **Jecka** » August 10th, 2014, 8:48 pm

I actually didn't like the resolution increase at first, but it's grown on me,I guess

As for old school, some time before the end of the 200's...so I'd probably go with 283 in terms of the animation change after it.

brycec · Post by **brycec** » August 17th, 2014, 11:37 am

kkslider5552000 wrote:the pre-Haibara stuff and maybe the pre-Vermouth arc proper (so early 200s is the cutoff date)

The Vermouth arc is the actual point where the cases stopped being (as) consistently great and all the crazy plot turns just don't feel "old" to me.

I would pretty much agree with this statement, but there were still plenty of terrible cases between volumes 1-42.

CodeName:900hrs · Post by **CodeName:900hrs** » August 19th, 2014, 10:35 pm

When Conan still had big ears

Osaka Detective · Post by **Osaka Detective** » August 20th, 2014, 5:55 am

Hard to define but I'm going to go with Pre-Haibara for really old school. Then again I'm also tempted to say pre-360s (?) which they stopped making people die with their eyes open. It makes a bigger impact in the murders and can really be chilly sometimes. Then there's 283 which things started to brighten a bit.

So yeah, shrug?

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