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Worst manga cases

Posted: May 27th, 2014, 2:17 pm
by Adel34
I would like to share my opinion on the worst manga cases (bad/ridiculous/boring cases are not limited to AOs). This is my list of the most ridiculous/illogical/boring manga cases ever.

286-288 (NY case) - I only dislike the anime adaptation of this case, because I find it highly ridiculous and unrealistic that American people in USA would speak random Japanese even when speaking to themselves. I know that in the manga they speak actual English, so no problems here, but I can't bear to watch the anime version, it's just so ridiculous.
333-334 (Similar Princesses) - I dislike this case because of the magical abilities of Eri and Yukiko to solve a murder case. They are not detectives, they are not supposed to be that smart (and they are not in other cases). I just don't get where did they get that magical ability to make a full deductive reasoning.
438 (Fish E-mail Pursuit) - I was surprised to find out this wasn't an AO, because it felt like one. The ridiculous thing in this case is why the heck did that kid not go outside of the car, especially with the door unlocked. I know that his dad told him to stay in the car, but hell, he was almost fainting in that car, any normal person (even if it's a kid) would go out.
454-455 (Overturned Conclusion) - this is a special case, because I can't even understand Conan's explanation at all. This might be mainly because of the low quality subs. Maybe I'll change my opinion on the case when good subs are released for this case.
493-494 (Clash of Red & Black: Exclamation & Hades) - one of the most ridiculous and unrealistic cases and the only episodes from Red & Black I disliked. What makes this case ridiculous is the fact that the victim didn't scream out the murderer's name or shout to Kogoro for help. He knew who was going to kill him, instead of waiting for this death to come he could've shouted who the murderer is a hundred times, his mouth was not obstructed.
589-590 (Worst Birthday) - seriously... why would anyone take a shower only because they spilled cola on their face. You would normally just wash your face, right? There's absolutely no need to take a shower and therefore the trick is overly ridiculous. If Eri actually washed only her face, there was no way for the culprit to make his plan work.
608-609 (White Day of Betrayal) - I can't even explain why I didn't like this case. It was just soooo boring.
710-711 (Everybody Saw) - the absolute winner of the worst manga case in existence. The "trick" was so downright ridiculous and stupid, not to mention completely unrealistic. There's no way in heck a person could get perfect shots of a person in a specific position doing a specific things on four tablets. No way! Not to mention that the detectives didn't show ANY evidence to the culprit, the culprit just admitted to her crime just like that, without any proof.

So, that's all. Do you guys have any of your personal worst manga cases?

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 27th, 2014, 2:36 pm
by irishock
There's a bunch from the beginning where the culprit says "Call the police" instead of "call an ambulance" which Conan says is evidence that the culprit knew the victim was already killed.. Just a complete cop-out.

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 27th, 2014, 6:19 pm
by kkslider5552000
the answer is episode 624

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 27th, 2014, 7:03 pm
by Adel34
Conan324 wrote:
Most cases have flaws in them, one needs only to look at discussion threads to read about them.
but i disagree about this episode because it was one of the darkest cases in conan, the actual plot of the case was well written.
Well, this case would be indeed awesome if it wasn't for the fact that I mentioned. It makes the case go way down in awesomeness.

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 27th, 2014, 8:08 pm
by Ekoyuhale
To the fish email case, I do have to say that that is a real thing which happens with children in the real world. Children have died of heat stroke when parents leave them in the car too long on their own, and they don't understand enough to leave the car, especially when their parents told them to stay put. It seems ridiculous to us, that they won't just get out, but it really is something that happens. I will say that case wasn't very interesting, but it was, unfortunately, realistic enough

As for my own, I really don't like the monkey and rake thing (592-3), boring and just plain stupid with the fortune

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 28th, 2014, 9:21 am
by ssjup81
irishock wrote:There's a bunch from the beginning where the culprit says "Call the police" instead of "call an ambulance" which Conan says is evidence that the culprit knew the victim was already killed.. Just a complete cop-out.
Not really. Here in Japan there are three separate emergency numbers, as opposed to one (in the US's case). That would be strange to say unless you already knew the person was dead and that it was a murder.

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 28th, 2014, 8:21 pm
by viva_cmpunker
For 333-334 (Similar Princesses): I disagree that Eri shouldn't be that smart. She is very intelligent. First off, she's a lawyer, and many lawyers are smart in a variety of things. Secondly, this is not the only time that Eri solved a case. A couple cases that come to my mind is the case where Kogoro was a suspect and the one with Eri's Judo martial artist friend. Also, that case was solved by Conan using Yukiko just like he uses Agasa.

Oh and I would also take a shower if a soda splashes on me like that. It could get in my hair, so it would be easier and cleaner to just take a shower.

As for my least favorite case, like Ekoyuhale mentioned, it's easily 592-593. It was just too boring for me. I couldn't get into it.

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 28th, 2014, 9:23 pm
by Adel34
viva_cmpunker wrote: Oh and I would also take a shower if a soda splashes on me like that. It could get in my hair, so it would be easier and cleaner to just take a shower.
So you could just wash your hair. There's no reason to wash your whole body.

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 28th, 2014, 10:43 pm
by aly_angelflight
Adel34 wrote:
viva_cmpunker wrote: Oh and I would also take a shower if a soda splashes on me like that. It could get in my hair, so it would be easier and cleaner to just take a shower.
So you could just wash your hair. There's no reason to wash your whole body.
It's easier to wash your hair in the shower, though, especially if you have long hair like Eri does. I've taken showers for the sole purpose of getting stuff out of my hair several times myself. :V

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 29th, 2014, 1:45 pm
by frankguo8
gosh so much judging and negativity! I guess once you start the rant you can't stop :P

I will ignore all the anime because that's not the "original" Conan. Just the spin-off.
but here are the cases i don't like. they usually don't have a murder case or is just a short case.

file. 699."Tomorrow is There" 明日があるさ (the case before Gin found out that Scar Akai is sighted)
628.-630 "Coffee of Murderous Intent" 殺意のコーヒー (I just have no interest over this case whatsoever)

582-586 A Clue from the West 西からの手がかり& Company カンパニー (Where they try to find the relationship behind Eisuke, Rena, and the man from "Company" )

538-540 Upside Down Mystery 逆さまミステリ (all the mini cars were turned upside down)

533-534 Suspicious Action 挙動不審!? (a man planning to end his life at a movie premier)

515-517 Exciting Interview ワクワク取材 (reporter killed before his interview with the detective boys)

505-507 The Secret Path to School (the case right after the Kir case)

and there was a case about a lost phone I can't find the file....

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 29th, 2014, 2:22 pm
by kkslider5552000
kkslider5552000 wrote:the answer is episode 624
there has not been a compelling argument for why this isn't true

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 29th, 2014, 4:54 pm
by Adel34
kkslider5552000 wrote:
kkslider5552000 wrote:the answer is episode 624
there has not been a compelling argument for why this isn't true
Personally, I don't have anything against the Chiba love story cases.

Also, regarding the Red & Black case I posted about earlier - it would've made perfect sense if the killer gagged the victim's mouth. Otherwise, it does not make sense.

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 29th, 2014, 9:22 pm
by ErraticSpark
Conan324 wrote:
Adel34 wrote:
kkslider5552000 wrote:
kkslider5552000 wrote:the answer is episode 624
there has not been a compelling argument for why this isn't true
Personally, I don't have anything against the Chiba love story cases.

Also, regarding the Red & Black case I posted about earlier - it would've made perfect sense if the killer gagged the victim's mouth. Otherwise, it does not make sense.
but its supposed to look like a suicide so that wouldn't work, gosho could have made that old man have difficulty speaking and it would resolve all flaws.
That's the one where the guy got hanged right? I can't imagine that a person who knows they're going to die if the door's opened is going to start shouting unless they've given up, because people will come running and barge into the room to see what's wrong.

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 30th, 2014, 11:08 am
by Adel34
ErraticSpark wrote:
That's the one where the guy got hanged right? I can't imagine that a person who knows they're going to die if the door's opened is going to start shouting unless they've given up, because people will come running and barge into the room to see what's wrong.
But the point is that he knew someone was gonna open the door once he drops the vase, so he knew he was going to die either way, so why not scream out the murderer's name?

Re: Worst manga cases

Posted: May 30th, 2014, 11:32 am
by Juzagal
Wow....just wow...seriously... -_-
Yeah...some maybe better than the others but opinion differs anyway...
Carry on~ :P